From: owner-faxlabel@2350.org (faxlist-digest) To: faxlist-digest Subject: faxlist-digest V1999 #78 Reply-To: faxlist@2350.org Sender: owner-faxlabel@2350.org Errors-To: owner-faxlabel@2350.org Precedence: bulk faxlist-digest Wednesday, July 21 1999 Volume 1999 : Number 078 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 01:21:54 +0100 From: Ben Jefferys Subject: Re: (fax) best artwork? Rowland Atkinson wrote: > also - have you noticed how people, myself included, so they think a fax > disc is 'not bad' when what they really mean is that they dont like it at > all but will keep it in their collection? Lets have some comments please > from those with fulle collecxtions - do you feel that you can and die in > peace now or has it taken some of the purpose out of your life? :) Well I certinaly don't have a fulle collection, but yeah I'm sure there's some stuff which is crap where my opinion is modulated by the fact that it's a fax disc. I'm getting to the stage where I either sell some stuff or get a bigger CD unit. I wouldn't only sell the crap though, and would feel bad selling it to people as it is that bad. So how about a crap-for-crap trading system? Just to help circulate it a bit. Or maybe I should just chuck it in the sea like Thames Water do. Bye! Ben. - --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 99 10:26:12 +1100 From: Andre Subject: (fax) Dream Collaborations... ahhh.... Pete Namlook Vs Richard H Kirk.... mmm... ciao! Fax +49-69/450464 Records - http://www.faxlabel.com [ tune into Faxlabel.com with realaudio ] - --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 01:28:36 +0100 From: Ben Jefferys Subject: Re: (fax) fulle collexions tonelab@megsinet.net wrote: > < from those with fulle collecxtions - do you feel that you can and die in > peace now or has it taken some of the purpose out of your life? :)>> > > it took me about 8 months to track everything down ... *Damn* that's quick. My preference is to wait, and check out the second hand places occasionally. Cause getting rarity is that much sweeter when it only costs a tenner ;) > purpose? i guess i'll just have to find another obsession, perhaps the > complete german Brain catalog on vinyl? Complete em:t - probably quite an easy one, and their design is very nice and consistent. The complete set looks good on your CD shelf. Find a cheaper obsession 8) The Complete Mr. Men books spell out something when stacked in the right order... and only about 3 quid (4$) each. But won't have the childhood memory value for the non-.uks out there! Seeya! Ben. - --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 01:34:35 +0100 From: Ben Jefferys Subject: Re: (fax) best artwork? Ott, Duane F. wrote: > > I'd just like to know what that obscene-looking thing on Whole Traffic 2 > is... Some insect's eye - possibly a wasp given the waspish nature of the inside of the inlay.... OK: cheesiest quote from FAX CD inlay? Where does this come from: Tempora mutantur nos et mutamur in illis It is on Limelight but I can't imagine Namlook did the Latin himself. It means something like "times change and we change with them" - in a very rough and wrong way. God this is trainspotter central ;) Ben. - --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 01:42:56 +0100 From: Ben Jefferys Subject: Re: (fax) best artwork? Andre wrote: > > >Worst - the entire Namlook series. Bodged together clipart. Worst of > >that lot - Namlook III ;) > > > > How dare you call the EMS Synthi Bodged together clipart!!!! You fucker! > without this synth the world would have ended long ago! ;) The monkeyface of Pete Namlook pasted over the top detracts from the mystique somewhat... Consider the far sexier cover to "The MS-Series". If it ain't got a spaghetti of cables, it ain't analogue... That's what my gran used to say, before the treatment. Ben. - --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 99 10:49:13 +1100 From: Andre Subject: Re: (fax) best artwork? >Consider the far sexier cover to "The MS-Series". If it ain't got a >spaghetti of cables, it ain't analogue... That's what my gran used to >say, before the treatment. Ok trainspotter Central... tonight im going home and analysing the Patching on the cover of the MS-20 and we'll see if its actual patches or if they just putting a nice picture on the cover to look like synthgods.... I had the misfortune of tuning into video hits or whatever the top 20 cheese 'o' the month Aussie MTV equivalent was and saw some band doing their thing in front of the cameras with an MS-20 in the background... wankers. Fax +49-69/450464 Records - http://www.faxlabel.com [ tune into Faxlabel.com with realaudio ] - --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:36:55 PDT From: "Jeff Shoemaker" Subject: Re: (fax) Dream Collaborations... david moufang vs. atom heart spyra vs. new-school inuoe inuoe vs. atmo (that one'll require gloves) :) CUE vs. jonah sharp man, this could go on forever. . . -jeff _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com - --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:06:06 +0100 From: Rowland Atkinson Subject: (fax) P4 Just listening to Psychonavigation 4 for the first time. This is just great stuff, upbeat bass fuelled grooves and hooks. Just brilliant stuff, cant recommend it highly enough. Oh, can someone tell me where I will find that stuff by CUE on being an ambient dj?? cheers rA - --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:52:32 +0200 From: hlapp@emprise.de Subject: (fax) solarized - audiostream Harald Lapp@EMPRISE 21.07.99 12:52 hi! is it only me who has problems with the sola- rized realaudio-stream on faxlabel.com? the stream seems to be empty: after a few seconds only silence... mmm... :-(... bye <-aurora - --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 8:54:25 -0500 From: "Damon C. Capehart" Subject: (fax) Answer to why the unlistenable tracks Someone mentioned the last tracks on Ozoona, Shado2, etc., and wondered why Namlook feels he must put on some sort of overly experimental and unlistenable track at the end of some of these CDs. I believe I may have found a part of the answer in David Toop's interview found at http://www.dfuse.com/the-wire/out/0398_3.htm > Why did I do Techno as well in the beginning? Well, I liked Kraftwerk, Neu, > and stuff like that and for me, my definition of Techno was a vehicle to get > the people to listen to my music through the B-sides. The 'real thing' for me > was (what you call) 'Ambient'. Environmental describes it better, but as I > said before, definitions don't count. One could imply from this that Namlook >really< wants to create the unlistenable stuff, and is only marginally interested in the "sellable" music. I can't be sure, and I must admit it >is< a stretch, but I thought you guys might find it interesting. :-) Damon ******************************************************************************* Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. Ernst & Young LLP ******************************************************************************* - --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:24:03 -0400 From: "Luckabaugh, Steve" Subject: RE: (fax) Dream Collaborations... namlook vs. trent reznor, ok that's too weird. dr. atmo vs. dr. atmo (nothing on the disc at all, just 60 minutes of silence, nobody left to steal from :-o) STeve. [running for cover] - --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 9:36:37 -0500 From: "Damon C. Capehart" Subject: (fax) A dream... Last night I had a dream that Ambient World made another batch of DSotM 1 & 2 (AW) due to high demand. My thought when I woke up: Why do I care? I already have them... I guess maybe someone on the mailing list might like to know... Whatever, Damon P.S.: A-ha... the picture on Waiting for Snow is >upside down<. :-) ******************************************************************************* Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. Ernst & Young LLP ******************************************************************************* - --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:03:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Stewart Fritz Subject: Re: (fax) A dream... On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Damon C. Capehart wrote: > P.S.: A-ha... the picture on Waiting for Snow is >upside down<. :-) Yes! It filled my heart with glee when I first discovered that. There's another recent release that has the same trick on the cover....anyone care to guess which one? - --s2 - -- stewart fritz...... fax +49-69/450464 reviews... http://www.2350.org/ welcome to the electronic music center - --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:06:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Stewart Fritz Subject: Re: (fax) P4 On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Rowland Atkinson wrote: > Just listening to Psychonavigation 4 for the first time. This is just great > stuff, upbeat bass fuelled grooves and hooks. Just brilliant stuff, cant > recommend it highly enough. I couldn't agree more. This IS a great disc. > > Oh, can someone tell me where I will find that stuff by CUE on being an > ambient dj?? That's on the inside booklet of the "Genetic Drift" compilation, which is still available last time I checked...try EAR-Rational, or Playing By Ear, or Rioux's records... - --s2 - -- stewart fritz...... fax +49-69/450464 reviews... http://www.2350.org/ welcome to the electronic music center - --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:17:58 +0100 From: Rowland Atkinson Subject: (fax) An Ambient Manifesto I was bored and... An Ambient Manifesto There is a need not to go over the same musical terrain too often - familiarity breeds discontent, exploration is the key. In short, have as big a collection as possible and play each title occasionally. Ambient is a democratic medium. Technology has made its production open to all while a proliferation of electronic media make transmission over large distances and to large numbers relatively easy to achieve. This, of course, presupposes access to essentially Western and/or wealthy playback and relay media. Ambient is boring, mundane and commonplace. If you want to bore your friends and surprise them with insanely experimental titles that they cannot believe can be actually interpreted as music play ambient music. Ambient is exciting and revitalising, occaisionally even a spiritual or revelatory experience; a rediscovery of the familiar made unfamiliar. The source material of ambient is all around us as well as through traditional instruments. Ambient is music you can share with your parents even if you don't want to. "What is that nice music you were playing earlier?" In short, what other form of music can fuel drug induced states as well as being wallpaper music for dinner parties? Being 'into' Ambient can be a pain, record shop staff look bemused or annoyed that they haven't heard of that title or 'group'. Be careful of shirty staff who find these titles affornting to their cool value and expect to be told that they have heard of it or know where they can get it even if they don't have a clue! Always remember that whenever you ask on lists - where can I get X or what is X like? - you will find that it is deleted and often 'the best thing that that artist ever did'. Ambient music cannot be defined. However, this does not mean that Pink Floyd are masters of the genre. Ultimately ambience is where you find it, to quote one of its exponents. Ambient music forms absolutely no coherent geographical or socially locatable subculture. Where are your friends into the same music, how often do you go to parties where ambient is played? Don't forget that email music lists are surrogate friends and that you are really a sad friendless freak who seeks to ostracise her/himself from his/her friends, family and partner - - they didn't call that compilation series Isolationism for nothing. rA - --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:21:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Stewart Fritz Subject: Re: (fax) An Ambient Manifesto that's great, Rowland. I'm going to frame it on my living room wall to avoid any further arguments with my girlfriend. :) - --s2 - -- stewart fritz...... fax +49-69/450464 reviews... http://www.2350.org/ welcome to the electronic music center - --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:45:56 -0500 (CDT) From: pHonaut Subject: (fax) fetish me covers Some favorite fax covers: Coeur Atomique - very nice zodiac type theme Xjacks - mites holding hands! :) Octopus - is it watson or crick? Cymatic Scan - reminds me of a map of indonesia Outer Dark - perfect for what's on the disc A Day in the Park - colorized landscapes like the ones from & Arizona Tracks - Kubrick's "2001" ! Dang! Those were all sublabel releases. Alright then, gotta like Psychonavigation III for the slight departure from the circle-in-circle pattern. Honorable mention must go to all of Meloche's works on the label, simply for keeping in-theme. Very pretty all line up! Even some of his non-fax stuff looks like that. no@h FAX/RI trade list available upon request "|+'5 n0+ f@k3, end 0f c3n+ury, m@g|c d|5pl@y" . . . . . . ..... . . . . . . - --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 99 09:51:28 +1100 From: Andre Subject: (fax) Auction DESTROYER Hello Fax Heads... Im sure a few people out there will want to nail my balls against a wall for doing this but i dont care... i dont think people should have to pay more for than needed for music... here is a list of titles currently available from your store... (whoever PBE, Ear Rational, Rixous whatever) if they dont have it in stock, they should be able to order it and get it in: Octopus 1 , 2 , 3 Wechselspannung2 Koolfang 2 A t o m 2350 Broadway 3 C r e a t e 2 Elektro Jet Chamber 2 Shades of Orion 3 Arizona Tracks A m p Ozoona Genetic Drift The four seasons Electronic Music Centre Psychedelic Landscape Time (squared) Jet Chamber 3 Elektro 2 Subharmonic mixtures A Day in the Live The Concept Album Supergroup A m p2 (red stripes on white wall) Pete Namlook Hubertus Held Dark side of the Moog 5 , 6 Namlook XII P r e F a x S i l e n c e 3 Namlook XIII Licence to Chill Miles Apart D a d a Drum Machine Circle Outland3 Silent music Polytime Planetarium From Within 3 Virtual Vices 4 Voice 2 Dark side of the Moog 7 Waiting for Snow Air 4 Elle a du shell Etherlands Vrs-Mbnt-Pcs 9598 I Solarized Namlook 14 Dark Side of the Moog 8 The Retro Rocket Ambient World dark side of the moog 1 , 3 , 4 4 V o i c e Tetsu Inoue + PN 2350 Broadway 1 (2 cd) Dreamfish 1 Transonic 1 'OLD SCHOOL' --->these may take a while to get in and these are more expensive... sublabel compilation 1 I year dance g a t e / s o l wireless sad world 2 , sad world 3 alien community 2 2350 Broadway 2 the sunken road namlook 6 namlook 7 namloook 8+9 wandering soul shades of orion 2 music for ballet atom heart live at sel l/s/c/ recurring dreams of urb. myth b e d r o o m electro harmonix s o l p h a x the whole traffic 2 u v o i i oscar sala 'my fascinating instrument' zenith create jet chamber 1 aerial service area 2 62 eulengasse xangadix 2 o t r a s 1 , o t r a s 2 xjacks the ms series a day in the park 62 eulengasse modula green k o o l e r fanger and siebert david reeves 'in starless space' xangadix 2 second nature slow and low a new consciousness 2 seasons greetings 'autumn' !!!!!! Fax +49-69/450464 Records - http://www.faxlabel.com [ tune into Faxlabel.com with realaudio ] - --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jul 99 12:27:16 +1100 From: Andre Subject: Wanted - Escape (fax) Hello. Im looking for a copy of 'Escape' on Fax. If anyone is willing to sell/trade a copy please let me know. thanks Andre. And then our campsite lit up as bright as day, and we blanked out. --->>>>> andre@faxlabel.com / http://www.faxlabel.com <<<<<<--- - --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ End of faxlist-digest V1999 #78 ******************************* --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org