From: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org (faxlist-digest) To: faxlist-digest@monkey.org Subject: faxlist-digest V2002 #9 Reply-To: faxlist@2350.org Sender: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Errors-To: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Precedence: bulk faxlist-digest Friday, January 11 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 009 (fax) Re: Gobbledygook Re: (fax) Elektrolux questions Re: (fax) Fine wines... /SHADO's Re: (fax) Silence is Silver Re: (fax) Fine wines... /SHADO's Re: (fax) Silence is golden (fax) Hello! Re: (fax) Hello! Re: (fax) Hello! Re: (fax) Hello! RE: (fax) Hello! Re: (fax) Hello! [none] (fax) RE: Orb inspired Re: (fax) Hello! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 07:37:14 -0800 (PST) From: ambient Subject: (fax) Re: Gobbledygook - --- Paul Milligan wrote: > > >> Maybe Silence 1+2 suffer > > >naah, it is the person who suffers > > Excuse me? > > > > >IMO, Silence will always be at the thrown.(S II, Air I/II) > > Excuse me? > >I have played it 5 times in the last 7 years, Total! > >I will not grow bored of it, as it is a masterpiece. > Point? (If I owned a masterpiece I would be inclined to play > it more than an average of once every 16 months.) > > >then again, i would grow bored of these if they were displayed on > my > >front entranceway to my home and i looked at them everyday. > >http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Palais/4714/dav3.jpg > >http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Palais/4714/dav2.jpg > > Excuse me? > > Any chance of translating above - I'm lost in your sea > of 'Scoutspeak' Likewise Paul, I have no idea what you are having a hard time understanding? What do you need translated? Are you really Lost? What sea? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 17:01:49 +0100 From: Sven Koessler Subject: Re: (fax) Elektrolux questions Hi again ! They are all listed on the elektrolux site. Go to www.elektrolux.com Click "releases" Scroll down the middle frame (table of releases) by clicking the "down" arrow and after about 8 clicks there's the first of the Elektro Codes . The other two are again about 8 clicks deeper. They are called ELEKTROLUX PRESENTS Elektro Codes.Three (Two / One) and all three got a light-blue coverart. Elektro Codes Two and One can be ordered from the elektrolux-onlinestore, Three is oop ! Cheers Sven Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 18:36:54 -0600 From: Mxyzptlk Subject: Re: (fax) Elektrolux questions Well, I can't see them on the elektrolux site, so they may indeed be oop. jeff At 04:13 PM 1/9/2002, Glyn Morton wrote: >Hi gang > >can anyone pelase direct me to the electro codes samplers mentioned > >Cheers > >Glyn ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 08:05:57 -0800 (PST) From: Greg Hill Subject: Re: (fax) Fine wines... /SHADO's S.H.A.DO #2 is close to being in my top 5 all time fax cds...great electoish music..again, I don't see how people wouldn't like this cd..its not dancey, but has interesting beats and GREAT synth sounds..very melodic.of course as I have learned not all EM fans are into the melodic beat stuff.. I do have to say the last song was terrible! UFO dection system. - --- Paul Milligan wrote: > > >hey Paul! Could it be true that you've never heard > S.H.A.D.O 2? > >Such fan of beats? > >Shame. > > > Hi Leszek > > Well, as you can see from my guide I haven't heard > this one - > although I only rated the first SHADO a 6/10 and > wasn't impressed > as others are with either Freefloater or, even Polar > Sequences!!! > However, I do have that quite nice Inner Sense track > on one of > half a dozen self-compiled Fax compilations. > Wouldn't say I was > a "fan of beats" though... well, not as opposed to > beatless. > > When it comes to beats on Fax my preference is more > towards the > trancey Sub Label releases from the likes of the > Basalt Boys or, > the Jet Chamber stuff...these are the Fax classics! > > In the past I have noted with interest that SHADO 2 > pulled > in serious votes on the "Best Releases of 1999" > poll. Then > again the competition wasn't up to much that year, > was it? > I mean, was it! > > Cheers > Paul > > > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 08:56:29 -0800 (PST) From: ambient Subject: Re: (fax) Silence is Silver >Spencer says: >I'd really like to hear them after all the raves. raves....What raves? :) > Thanks, Spencer > I know you didn`t mean rave in that context...but, i believe that Silence is perfect at a rave. One of those 5 of 7 times that i played it was at the chillout area at a rave called Summer Dreaming in Australia 2000, http://www.experienceparadise.com/db/1/advert/festivals/no/Australia/no/Sydney/0342425862/page.html andre was also spinning at that Rave/Festival...i remember that he played fax...duh?....never met the guy, though...what a beautiful place to be...well, the whole of Australia for that matter!! yes, there are still places where you can drink the water from the ground.. and just think...December, January and February is SUMMER in Australia.... :-) can`t we just try to convince Namlook to be in Adelaide in December?? ,scoUt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:39:31 +0000 From: "Paul Milligan" Subject: Re: (fax) Fine wines... /SHADO's Hi Greg >S.H.A.DO #2 is close to being in my top 5 all time fax Do you only have 5 Fax discs then? Sorry! Below the belt sarcasm!! Seriously, it is fairly obvious this is a popular release as I've checked now and it was actually *the* highest rated of '99 on the Fax Galleria poll for that year. Not that the compet- ition was really up to much. See, I've said it again! > I don't see how people wouldn't like this cd..its not >dancey, but has interesting beats and GREAT synth >sounds..very melodic. Great synth sounds is a bit generic! Yes - I know Bobby Bird's (idm) style but, I find he just doesn't grip me... most of the time. His albums tend to have one or two strong tracks on (eg. Maintaining Scans from the first SHADO) and the rest is middling to average. However, I accept my view may be in the minority. Incidently - Polar Sequences was a big disappointment for me recently. Not because it's a poor album (it's quite good) but, because I'd been led to believe it was as good or even better than Substrata. Ha ha. Paul ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 20:50:21 +0100 (MET) From: Leszek Zabinski Subject: Re: (fax) Silence is golden On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Paul Milligan wrote: > What about Shades Of Orion guys? (No blips there) This is one of those series so intensively praised that my expectations before listening the opening part (yes I was late for the first pressing :) were elevated high. Having heard "Biotrip" on the Coobook I've already pre-tasted the honey dripping from the speakers. And... nothing really happened. Nothing "super-exceptional" at least. It is the strongest part of the series, there's no doubt. But imo it hesitates somewhere on the verge of 'average' and 'good'. Especially this terrible fast techno track ("Did you ever...") pulls the whole cd down. Part Three has a potential of becoming a strong release but it's only several moments buried in the backtracks, coming and going from time to time, leaving me with the impression of awkward pause in-between. Won't say much of the second installment as it belongs to those Fax releases that I'm not going to play in predictable future. just chill everyone! Leszek. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 22:39:49 -0700 From: "Craig D." Subject: (fax) Hello! Hello FAXheads. :) I wanted to take a few minutes to introduce myself to the list. I was lucky enough to come across this site from Will-E's FAX Discography and was pleased to see such a nice website that is providing more FAX information. An added bonus is the fact that there is a mailing list for the discussion of the FAX label. I've been a big fan of the FAX label for quite awhile now. Back a looong time ago when I first started to DJ, I spun ambient. This was mostly due to the fact that I could not beat match, and I figured ambient was pretty darn easy to spin. Plus I rather liked the music. I suppose that is when I first happened upon FAX. I bought a few FAX records from the local record shop (Hearts of Space 3, Syn 4, Silence 4, etc) and really loved the style. Unfortunately I didn't know any better as to what I had. To me, at the time, FAX was just another random music label. Typically I went after the Apollo label first (I think I even have Fires of Ork on that label). Fast forward a couple of years, I met up with someone from NYC who you could say was a *major* FAN of the FAX. Countless nights we'd sit around, eating dinner, and listening to the CDs he received all the time. I got pretty hooked on it as well, and would buy FAX CDs regularly. Things happened, and after a period of time, I lost interest in Ambient and was too busy buying assorted dance music on vinyl. Once in awhile I'd see a blurb about a new FAX release, and sometimes stop by the Hyperreal Discography just to see what's new, but I haven't bought any FAX material in quite a number of years. That is until this week. :) For whatever reason, I was searching through Yahoo and discovered that Emusic has a rather large collection of FAX MP3s to download. I got rather excited and signed right up, and within two days I had downloaded everything they had. So, once again I'm all hyped up on this music. I even received my first order of CDs (Silence V, Virtual Vices III, and Fires of Ork II). So here I am. There's about 5 years with of releases that I have missed out on. It's nice to have this collection from Emusic to catch up on, especially with some of my favorite projects, such as Silence and Air. I'm really big on beatless, dark, and slow changing ambient. Examples would be Atom Heart live at sel I/s/c, and more recently (thanks to Emusic), Jochem Paap VRS-Mbnt-Pcs 9598 II. However, I do like a lot of the other types of ambient that are released on the label. Heck, I even enjoy some of the older hard trance/hardcore releases. Anyway, I could probably go on for a while longer, but this introduction has become long and winded. :) I look forward to exchanging thoughts about the music and reading up on what others have to say about FAX. Now if you'll excuse me, I have a lot of catching up to do! :-D Respect, Craig. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 00:41:28 -0500 From: "jackthetab" Subject: Re: (fax) Hello! welcome :-) jackthetab i think therefore i ambient #####\ _ /##### #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# ##### | /_woof/ | ##### #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# #####/ ######/ \###### \##### /_________________TRIBAL________________\ http://www.superior.net/~zothboy si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig D." To: "fax" Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 12:39 AM Subject: (fax) Hello! > Hello FAXheads. :) > > I wanted to take a few minutes to introduce myself to the list. I was lucky > enough to come across this site from Will-E's FAX Discography and was > pleased to see such a nice website that is providing more FAX information. > An added bonus is the fact that there is a mailing list for the discussion > of the FAX label. > > I've been a big fan of the FAX label for quite awhile now. Back a looong > time ago when I first started to DJ, I spun ambient. This was mostly due to > the fact that I could not beat match, and I figured ambient was pretty darn > easy to spin. Plus I rather liked the music. I suppose that is when I > first happened upon FAX. I bought a few FAX records from the local record > shop (Hearts of Space 3, Syn 4, Silence 4, etc) and really loved the style. > Unfortunately I didn't know any better as to what I had. To me, at the > time, FAX was just another random music label. Typically I went after the > Apollo label first (I think I even have Fires of Ork on that label). > > Fast forward a couple of years, I met up with someone from NYC who you could > say was a *major* FAN of the FAX. Countless nights we'd sit around, eating > dinner, and listening to the CDs he received all the time. I got pretty > hooked on it as well, and would buy FAX CDs regularly. > > Things happened, and after a period of time, I lost interest in Ambient and > was too busy buying assorted dance music on vinyl. Once in awhile I'd see a > blurb about a new FAX release, and sometimes stop by the Hyperreal > Discography just to see what's new, but I haven't bought any FAX material in > quite a number of years. That is until this week. :) > > For whatever reason, I was searching through Yahoo and discovered that > Emusic has a rather large collection of FAX MP3s to download. I got rather > excited and signed right up, and within two days I had downloaded everything > they had. So, once again I'm all hyped up on this music. I even received > my first order of CDs (Silence V, Virtual Vices III, and Fires of Ork II). > > So here I am. There's about 5 years with of releases that I have missed out > on. It's nice to have this collection from Emusic to catch up on, > especially with some of my favorite projects, such as Silence and Air. I'm > really big on beatless, dark, and slow changing ambient. Examples would be > Atom Heart live at sel I/s/c, and more recently (thanks to Emusic), Jochem > Paap VRS-Mbnt-Pcs 9598 II. However, I do like a lot of the other types of > ambient that are released on the label. Heck, I even enjoy some of the > older hard trance/hardcore releases. > > Anyway, I could probably go on for a while longer, but this introduction has > become long and winded. :) I look forward to exchanging thoughts about the > music and reading up on what others have to say about FAX. Now if you'll > excuse me, I have a lot of catching up to do! :-D > > Respect, > Craig. > > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 22:03:45 -0800 From: "sanvara" Subject: Re: (fax) Hello! Welcome. You must be overwhelmed trying to check out everything have missed over the past 5 years of Fax. That's a lot of music. But it must be a lot of fun as well to have that much good "new" music to explore. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 00:13:49 -0700 From: "Craig D." Subject: Re: (fax) Hello! Thanks for the welcome :) Yes, I am a little overwhelmed at all the music that I need to catch up on. I've just taken everything I've downloaded from Emusic and added it to my iTunes play list and will just be going from top to bottom. :) Some CDs I can't help but play a second time, such as the SpeedyJ CDs. I've been looking for some newer releases, and it seems there are a lot less CDs being released as of late. Is the FAX label winding down? I know a long time ago Mr. Namlook said that he wanted to slow down on releases so they could focus on quality releases, rather than quantity. However I see that there were only a handful of CDs released last year. :( Anyway, thanks for the hellos! Talk to you later Craig On 1/10/02 11:03 PM, "sanvara" wrote: > Welcome. You must be overwhelmed trying to check out everything have missed > over the past 5 years of Fax. That's a lot of music. But it must be a lot of > fun as well to have that much good "new" music to explore. > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 09:12:16 -0000 From: Edward Jones Subject: RE: (fax) Hello! If only the "quality not quantity" ethos Pete was expounding was genuinely the case! Emusic is a fantastic way of catching up on what you have missed, although the sound quality could be better. But welcome indeed to the list! DISCLAIMER: The information in this message is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this message by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, or distribution of the message, or any action or omission taken by you in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Please immediately contact the sender if you have received this message in error. Thank you. _____________________________________________________________________ (O)This message has been checked for all known viruses by MessageLabs. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 04:20:32 -0700 From: "Craig D." Subject: Re: (fax) Hello! On 1/11/02 2:12 AM, "Edward Jones" wrote: > If only the "quality not quantity" ethos Pete was expounding was genuinely > the case! Damn.. Sorry to hear that. Thankfully some of the newer stuff I've listened to isn't too bad. I'm quite pleased with Silence V, especially since Silence is my favorite project. Silence I still remains my top pick in that series. I'm also rather enjoying Virtual Vices III. :) > Emusic is a fantastic way of catching up on what you have missed, although > the sound quality could be better. Heck yah! I was ecstatic when I saw all the CDs they had to offer. I broke out the credit card in seconds. Heh. I am hoping they will be able to license some additional CDs in the future, especially some older Fax material. As for the sound quality, yah, 128bit isn't too hot, but for my laying in bed in the dark purposes, it isn't much of an issue to me. > But welcome indeed to the list! Thank you! Great to be a part of the discussion. Thanks, Craig ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 13:05:53 +0000 From: "Paul Ackrill" Subject: [none] Hey Heff-Ra! Whats was wrong with "the 'Orb-inspired' norm of that period..."? For me, the early 90s were all about the Orb, the HIA, Mixmaster Morris/Irresistible Force etc...many classic albums from that time. Admittedly, the Orb are struggling a bit nowadays, but most of those artists are still producing the goods even though ambient is out of fashion these days. And you can't dispute that '..Ultraworld' is a classic (can you?). _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 05:10:43 -0800 From: "Raphael Almeria" Subject: (fax) RE: Orb inspired >Whats was wrong with "the 'Orb-inspired' norm of that period..."? For me, >the early 90s were all about the Orb, the HIA, Mixmaster Morris/Irresistible >Force etc...many classic albums from that time. Admittedly, the Orb are >struggling a bit nowadays, but most of those artists are still producing the >goods even though ambient is out of fashion these days. And you can't >dispute that '..Ultraworld' is a classic (can you?). My money is with UFOrb. Simply beautiful. Raphael ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 15:58:55 -0800 (PST) From: dj monolith Subject: Re: (fax) Hello! Firstly, welcome Craig! Secondly, e-music is brilliant. I too downloaded a number of FAX albums that were out of print and out of my price range. As a completist I will keep hunting those titles, however, I don't mind the 128 bitrate in the meantime. Now, there are a few Sublabel items that never made it onto e-music that I would LOVE to own (even "don't let anyone hear this" burned copies - hint hint): Compilation 1 (Sublabel) (PS 08/01) Gorn (PS 08/29) Gamma (PS 08/30) Houdini (PS 08/38) The MS-Series (PS 08/70) also, Glitch-Inertia (PW 04)... Any idea why these releases were excluded? Does it have something to do with the artists? Massimo Vivona is responsible for 2 of the releases as well as having a track on the Compilation. I am sure SOMEONE knows the answers... Best, Darcy ( dj monolith ) - --- "Craig D." wrote: > On 1/11/02 2:12 AM, "Edward Jones" > wrote: > > Emusic is a fantastic way of catching up on what > you have missed, although > > the sound quality could be better. > > Heck yah! I was ecstatic when I saw all the CDs > they had to offer. I broke > out the credit card in seconds. Heh. I am hoping > they will be able to > license some additional CDs in the future, > especially some older Fax > material. > > As for the sound quality, yah, 128bit isn't too hot, > but for my laying in > bed in the dark purposes, it isn't much of an issue > to me. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! 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