From: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org (faxlist-digest) To: faxlist-digest@monkey.org Subject: faxlist-digest V2002 #10 Reply-To: faxlist@2350.org Sender: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Errors-To: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Precedence: bulk faxlist-digest Sunday, January 13 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 010 (fax) Thomas Koner (fax) emusic (fax) Re: Orb-inspired Re: (fax) emusic RE: (fax) emusic Re: (fax) emusic Re: (fax) Hello! Re: (fax) Hello! Re: (fax) Hello! Re: (fax) Hello! Re: (fax) Hello! Re: (fax) emusic Re: (fax) Hello! Re: (fax) Hello! Re: (fax) Hello! Re: (fax) Hello! Re: (fax) Re: Orb-inspired Re: (fax) Hello! Re: (fax) Hello! Re: (fax) Hello! Re: (fax) Hello! Re: (fax) Detecting SHADO's correct listening environment ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 12:24:40 +1100 From: "Sebastian Pucilowski" Subject: (fax) Thomas Koner Well, checking out the http://www.mille-plateaux.net/ homepage, it seems Thomas Koner's newest album "Daikan" is released. Time to go shopping! Sebastian Pucilowski ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 12:38:22 +1100 From: "andre@sansserif.com.au" Subject: (fax) emusic Any idea why these releases were excluded? Does it > have something to do with the artists? Massimo Vivona > is responsible for 2 of the releases as well as having > a track on the Compilation. > > I am sure SOMEONE knows the answers... some of the sublabel releases are not on emusic due to the rights to the work not belonging to PEte namlook.. i.e. they belong to the artist who made the recording.. and not all artists have signed to emusic. andre. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 23:18:20 -0600 From: "Heff-Ra" Subject: (fax) Re: Orb-inspired >Whats was wrong with "the 'Orb-inspired' norm of that period..."? It all became quite derivative by about '94. Every label was looking for the "next ambient thing." I remember reading "If you like The Orb, then you'll definitely like " so frequently at that time I thought my brain would burst. How about Blue Room debuting at number 1 in England? A forty minute track? How silly is that... It was all 'coat-tail riding' by the time U.F. Orb hit here in the states... >And you can't dispute that '..Ultraworld' is a classic (can you?). No I can't. But you have to remember, L/X is only as interesting as the creative talent he surrounds himself with... All of the above should be considered "unmitigated opinion." cheers, Heff-Ra _________________________________________________________ "Is Your life too taxing? Try new Pop Culture Lifestyle[TM] instead..." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 00:50:36 -0500 From: "jackthetab" Subject: Re: (fax) emusic emusic is an awful web site....I cant believe people actually listen to 128k mp3's.... jackthetab i think therefore i ambient #####\ _ /##### #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# ##### | /_woof/ | ##### #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# #####/ ######/ \###### \##### /_________________TRIBAL________________\ http://www.superior.net/~zothboy si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 8:38 PM Subject: (fax) emusic > Any idea why these releases were excluded? Does it > > have something to do with the artists? Massimo Vivona > > is responsible for 2 of the releases as well as having > > a track on the Compilation. > > > > I am sure SOMEONE knows the answers... > > > some of the sublabel releases are not on emusic due to the rights to the > work not belonging to PEte namlook.. i.e. they belong to the artist who made > the recording.. and not all artists have signed to emusic. > > > andre. > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 17:19:02 +1100 From: "Sebastian Pucilowski" Subject: RE: (fax) emusic I have tried e-music before, and I immediately cancelled my account. 128kb/s is totally unacceptable, considering we are paying for the mp3s. At least a MINIMUM of 192 kb/s is required, 256kb/s is adequate and 320 kb/s is prefarable. Humph! Sebastian Pucilowski - -----Original Message----- From: owner-faxlist@2350.org [mailto:owner-faxlist@2350.org] On Behalf Of jackthetab Sent: Saturday, 12 January 2002 4:51 PM To: andre@sansserif.com.au; faxlist@2350.org Subject: Re: (fax) emusic emusic is an awful web site....I cant believe people actually listen to 128k mp3's.... jackthetab i think therefore i ambient #####\ _ /##### #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# ##### | /_woof/ | ##### #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# #####/ ######/ \###### \##### /_________________TRIBAL________________\ http://www.superior.net/~zothboy si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 8:38 PM Subject: (fax) emusic > Any idea why these releases were excluded? Does it > > have something to do with the artists? Massimo Vivona > > is responsible for 2 of the releases as well as having > > a track on the Compilation. > > > > I am sure SOMEONE knows the answers... > > > some of the sublabel releases are not on emusic due to the rights to > the work not belonging to PEte namlook.. i.e. they belong to the > artist who made > the recording.. and not all artists have signed to emusic. > > > andre. > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax > + www.2350.org > > - --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax + www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 01:22:34 -0500 From: "jackthetab" Subject: Re: (fax) emusic I agree. I could not even think of subscribing with a bit rate that low. It would have to be at least 256k before I would actually WANT to pay fer it...craziness to pay fer something that low quality! jackthetab i think therefore i ambient #####\ _ /##### #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# ##### | /_woof/ | ##### #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# #####/ ######/ \###### \##### /_________________TRIBAL________________\ http://www.superior.net/~zothboy si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sebastian Pucilowski" To: Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 1:19 AM Subject: RE: (fax) emusic > I have tried e-music before, and I immediately cancelled my account. > 128kb/s is totally unacceptable, considering we are paying for the mp3s. > At least a MINIMUM of 192 kb/s is required, 256kb/s is adequate and 320 > kb/s is prefarable. Humph! > > Sebastian Pucilowski > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-faxlist@2350.org [mailto:owner-faxlist@2350.org] On Behalf > Of jackthetab > Sent: Saturday, 12 January 2002 4:51 PM > To: andre@sansserif.com.au; faxlist@2350.org > Subject: Re: (fax) emusic > > > emusic is an awful web site....I cant believe people actually listen to > 128k mp3's.... > > jackthetab > > i think therefore i ambient > #####\ _ /##### > #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# > ##### | /_woof/ | ##### > #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# > # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # > #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# > #####/ ######/ \###### \##### > /_________________TRIBAL________________\ > http://www.superior.net/~zothboy > si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 8:38 PM > Subject: (fax) emusic > > > > Any idea why these releases were excluded? Does it > > > have something to do with the artists? Massimo Vivona > > > is responsible for 2 of the releases as well as having > > > a track on the Compilation. > > > > > > I am sure SOMEONE knows the answers... > > > > > > some of the sublabel releases are not on emusic due to the rights to > > the work not belonging to PEte namlook.. i.e. they belong to the > > artist who > made > > the recording.. and not all artists have signed to emusic. > > > > > > andre. > > > > --- > > + To post: ; to mail a person: > > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax > > + www.2350.org > > > > > > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax > + www.2350.org > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 23:51:13 -0700 From: "Craig D." Subject: Re: (fax) Hello! On 1/11/02 4:58 PM, "dj monolith" wrote: > Firstly, welcome Craig! Thanks! > > Secondly, e-music is brilliant. I too downloaded a > number of FAX albums that were out of print and out of > my price range. As a completist I will keep hunting > those titles, however, I don't mind the 128 bitrate in > the meantime. No doubt.. A couple of the titles they have there I already own, but there's others I've never heard before and have always wanted to. It's great to be able to have them in my MP3 collection. Sure, it does suck that it's only 128 bitrate, but you know, I'd rather deal with a so-so bitrate than never hearing the music at all. > > Now, there are a few Sublabel items that never made it > onto e-music that I would LOVE to own (even "don't let > anyone hear this" burned copies - hint hint): > *snip* > also, Glitch-Inertia (PW 04)... Interesting you should mention Glitch. Glitch is actually one of the main reasons why I got in to dance music. The first party (rave) I ever went to was back in 1993, and Glitch played at this party in Washington DC (they're from Baltimore, btw). I absolutely fell in love with the music they were playing. Sure I had all the trendy CDs of the day (Rave Til' Dawn. Heh) but this was the first group that got me going hardcore (no pun intended) into electronic dance music. Their Trauma EP and Brain Circuit Surgery EP on Industrial Strength records were the first 12" vinyl records I'd ever bought (not counting vinyl singles of Kenny Loggins when I was a kid). I also went to any party these guys played at. When I saw their CD on FAX at the local music store in Baltimore, I listened to it, but it was mostly the same stuff I had of theirs on "bootleg" cassette. Plus, like I said in my previous post, I really didn't know what FAX was, so I didn't pay it much mind. Too bad. While surfing along Sonic Groove records last week for FAX CDs, their online store said they had it in stock. I was pretty excited and quickly placed my order for it. Unfortunately I got an e-mail the next day saying they did not have it in stock. Oh well.. My Glitch records have long since warped and tapes long since eaten in tape players. *sigh* :) Craig ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 01:57:45 -0500 From: "jackthetab" Subject: Re: (fax) Hello! listening to 128k bitrate is completely awful. How can you say that you would rather hear the music as 128k then not at all....you miss so much involvement with the music... its actually a complete waste of time....altho some people are more into the quantity then the quality.....and that is sad. jackthetab i think therefore i ambient #####\ _ /##### #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# ##### | /_woof/ | ##### #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# #####/ ######/ \###### \##### /_________________TRIBAL________________\ http://www.superior.net/~zothboy si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig D." To: "dj monolith" ; Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 1:51 AM Subject: Re: (fax) Hello! > On 1/11/02 4:58 PM, "dj monolith" wrote: > > > Firstly, welcome Craig! > > Thanks! > > > > > Secondly, e-music is brilliant. I too downloaded a > > number of FAX albums that were out of print and out of > > my price range. As a completist I will keep hunting > > those titles, however, I don't mind the 128 bitrate in > > the meantime. > > No doubt.. A couple of the titles they have there I already own, but > there's others I've never heard before and have always wanted to. It's > great to be able to have them in my MP3 collection. Sure, it does suck that > it's only 128 bitrate, but you know, I'd rather deal with a so-so bitrate > than never hearing the music at all. > > > > > Now, there are a few Sublabel items that never made it > > onto e-music that I would LOVE to own (even "don't let > > anyone hear this" burned copies - hint hint): > > *snip* > > also, Glitch-Inertia (PW 04)... > > Interesting you should mention Glitch. Glitch is actually one of the main > reasons why I got in to dance music. The first party (rave) I ever went to > was back in 1993, and Glitch played at this party in Washington DC (they're > from Baltimore, btw). I absolutely fell in love with the music they were > playing. Sure I had all the trendy CDs of the day (Rave Til' Dawn. Heh) but > this was the first group that got me going hardcore (no pun intended) into > electronic dance music. > > Their Trauma EP and Brain Circuit Surgery EP on Industrial Strength records > were the first 12" vinyl records I'd ever bought (not counting vinyl singles > of Kenny Loggins when I was a kid). I also went to any party these guys > played at. > > When I saw their CD on FAX at the local music store in Baltimore, I listened > to it, but it was mostly the same stuff I had of theirs on "bootleg" > cassette. Plus, like I said in my previous post, I really didn't know what > FAX was, so I didn't pay it much mind. Too bad. > > While surfing along Sonic Groove records last week for FAX CDs, their online > store said they had it in stock. I was pretty excited and quickly placed my > order for it. Unfortunately I got an e-mail the next day saying they did > not have it in stock. Oh well.. > > My Glitch records have long since warped and tapes long since eaten in tape > players. *sigh* > > :) > > Craig > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 00:10:23 -0700 From: "Craig D." Subject: Re: (fax) Hello! On 1/11/02 11:57 PM, "jackthetab" wrote: > listening to 128k bitrate is completely awful. How can you say that you > would rather hear the music as 128k then not at all....you miss so much > involvement with the music... > its actually a complete waste of time....altho some people are more into the > quantity then the quality.....and that is sad. I see it like this... Take 62 Eulengasse for example. This is a CD I've always wanted to hear, but don't own, nor have I ever been able to find it. Being a big fan of Tesu Inoue, it's a CD which I have been looking for. Here comes Emusic where, oh my goodness, I can download it and finally hear it! To me, it's not *that* bad. Perhaps it's my surround sound speakers, but it sounds pretty involving to me. To me, it's not a waste of time. I'm not interested in quantity over quality, I am interested in enjoying music I love. For me, I can allow myself to enjoy it. That's how I can say what I've said. :) Craig ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 23:22:53 -0800 From: "sanvara" Subject: Re: (fax) Hello! > listening to 128k bitrate is completely awful. How can you say that you > would rather hear the music as 128k then not at all....you miss so much > involvement with the music... > its actually a complete waste of time....altho some people are more into the > quantity then the quality.....and that is sad. I think 128K bitrate is great for sampling things to decide whether you want to buy. If I'm going to spend $15-$20 or more for a CD I want to hear it first. I think Emusic is great for this purpose. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 03:01:04 -0500 From: "jackthetab" Subject: Re: (fax) Hello! I agree, its nice to sample the music....and its not that big of a download....but a lot of people burn them to cd's and listen to them, as a regular release.... jackthetab i think therefore i ambient #####\ _ /##### #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# ##### | /_woof/ | ##### #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# #####/ ######/ \###### \##### /_________________TRIBAL________________\ http://www.superior.net/~zothboy si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes - ----- Original Message ----- From: "sanvara" To: Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 2:22 AM Subject: Re: (fax) Hello! > > listening to 128k bitrate is completely awful. How can you say that you > > would rather hear the music as 128k then not at all....you miss so much > > involvement with the music... > > its actually a complete waste of time....altho some people are more into > the > > quantity then the quality.....and that is sad. > > I think 128K bitrate is great for sampling things to decide whether you want > to buy. If I'm going to spend $15-$20 or more for a CD I want to hear it > first. I think Emusic is great for this purpose. > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 11:05:16 -0800 From: "Kream" Subject: Re: (fax) emusic > 128kb/s is totally unacceptable, considering we are paying for the mp3s. All I can add - 128Kbps can sounds better, if using Fraunhoffer encoders. Emusic use Xing - worst option here :( ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 11:03:08 -0500 (EST) From: laerm Subject: Re: (fax) Hello! On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Craig D. wrote: > Things happened, and after a period of time, I lost interest in Ambient > and was too busy buying assorted dance music on vinyl. Once in awhile > I'd see a blurb about a new FAX release, and sometimes stop by the > Hyperreal Discography just to see what's new, but I haven't bought any > FAX material in quite a number of years. That is until this week. :) [snip] > So here I am. There's about 5 years with of releases that I have missed > out on. It's nice to have this collection from Emusic to catch up on, > especially with some of my favorite projects, such as Silence and Air. hm, well, you'll make a good guinea pig for this of us on the list who argue whether or not fax have released truly noteworthy in the past few years. :) by going through these "new" old releases and saying "this one is XX, this one is YY", you might spark some old memories and new associations. anyways, welcome to the list, craig. micah stupak /"\ laerm soulfood.org \ / the world is falling down international bright young kook X and it may as well crash ascii ribbon campaign / \ with me against html email ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 11:06:52 -0500 (EST) From: laerm Subject: Re: (fax) Hello! On Sat, 12 Jan 2002, jackthetab wrote: > listening to 128k bitrate is completely awful. How can you say that you > would rather hear the music as 128k then not at all....you miss so much > involvement with the music... > its actually a complete waste of time....altho some people are more into > the quantity then the quality.....and that is sad. sheesh, how snooty is that?! so then i might as well not listen to the radio because, well, it's not a perfect medium, nor look at photos of paintings & sculpture. namlook has no problem with it. i'm sure he'd rather people hear his music however possible. i'd much rather have heard the music than not at all, and that's a point i'd love to see someone argue against. micah stupak /"\ laerm soulfood.org \ / the world is falling down international bright young kook X and it may as well crash ascii ribbon campaign / \ with me against html email ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 09:32:05 -0800 (PST) From: dj monolith Subject: Re: (fax) Hello! Dude! What's wrong with you? Why do you care so much if someone else listens to music at a lower bitrate than you prefer? Sure, I wish e-music offered better bitrate. Tell me where I can find these fax releases at 190+ for a resonable price. Or, better yet - tell me where I can find the original releases for less than it would cost to put a second morgage on my house. You completely miss the point! E-music offers an opportunity to hear before you buy. The disks I want to own, I WILL own. Remember, I have seen your trade list and your "quality over quantity" argument is pretty funny. I don't understand why you use postings like this to make personal attacks on others. Your opinion is your opinion - fine, however, when you use untrue statements like, "altho some people are more into the quantity then the quality.....and that is sad" - either keep it to yourself or do it privately. Now, how about that trade? ;) Darcy ( dj monolith ) - --- jackthetab wrote: > listening to 128k bitrate is completely awful. How > can you say that you > would rather hear the music as 128k then not at > all....you miss so much > involvement with the music... > its actually a complete waste of time....altho some > people are more into the > quantity then the quality.....and that is sad. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 12:52:23 -0500 From: "jackthetab" Subject: Re: (fax) Hello! people still listen to the radio? jackthetab i think therefore i ambient #####\ _ /##### #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# ##### | /_woof/ | ##### #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# #####/ ######/ \###### \##### /_________________TRIBAL________________\ http://www.superior.net/~zothboy si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes - ----- Original Message ----- From: "laerm" To: Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 11:06 AM Subject: Re: (fax) Hello! > On Sat, 12 Jan 2002, jackthetab wrote: > > > listening to 128k bitrate is completely awful. How can you say that you > > would rather hear the music as 128k then not at all....you miss so much > > involvement with the music... > > its actually a complete waste of time....altho some people are more into > > the quantity then the quality.....and that is sad. > > sheesh, how snooty is that?! so then i might as well not listen to the > radio because, well, it's not a perfect medium, nor look at photos of > paintings & sculpture. > > namlook has no problem with it. i'm sure he'd rather people hear his > music however possible. i'd much rather have heard the music than not at > all, and that's a point i'd love to see someone argue against. > > micah stupak /"\ > laerm soulfood.org \ / the world is falling down > international bright young kook X and it may as well crash > ascii ribbon campaign / \ with me > against html email > > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 09:53:21 -0800 (PST) From: dj monolith Subject: Re: (fax) Re: Orb-inspired Ahhhhh, yes. My favorite period of ambient music... 1994/1995 - the golden years! Instinct Ambient, FAX, Silent Records, Rising High... Darcy ( dj monolith ) > It all became quite derivative by about '94. Every > label was looking for > the "next ambient thing." > Orb > hit here in the states... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 13:04:58 -0500 From: "jackthetab" Subject: Re: (fax) Hello! I am not personally attacking anyone. I just dont seem to understand why you would want to pay fer something that is of low quality. And yes, I did mean that statement about the quantity over quality....because it is not just limited to just music.....it has seeped into the stereo industry as well. Seems like the market is over run with cheap stereo equipment....good speakers are no longer available at a decent price. Mini systems seem to be running the show...The quality of the systems have been lost. mp3's have run rampant....and gee, now we can buy cd/dvd players that actually play mp3's.... in short, I am not yelling, or flaming anyone fer using mp3's or their bit rates....people view music differently...and hey, its not my place to yell at anyone....cause you can do what you want...I am just stating how I feel....and I am not pinpointing any one person in particular. I apologize if it sound as so. jackthetab i think therefore i ambient #####\ _ /##### #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# ##### | /_woof/ | ##### #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# #####/ ######/ \###### \##### /_________________TRIBAL________________\ http://www.superior.net/~zothboy si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes - ----- Original Message ----- From: "dj monolith" To: "jackthetab" ; "Craig D." ; Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 12:32 PM Subject: Re: (fax) Hello! > Dude! > > What's wrong with you? Why do you care so much if > someone else listens to music at a lower bitrate than > you prefer? Sure, I wish e-music offered better > bitrate. Tell me where I can find these fax releases > at 190+ for a resonable price. Or, better yet - tell > me where I can find the original releases for less > than it would cost to put a second morgage on my > house. You completely miss the point! E-music offers > an opportunity to hear before you buy. The disks I > want to own, I WILL own. > Remember, I have seen your trade list and your > "quality over quantity" argument is pretty funny. > I don't understand why you use postings like this to > make personal attacks on others. Your opinion is your > opinion - fine, however, when you use untrue > statements like, "altho some people are more into the > quantity then the quality.....and that is sad" - > either keep it to yourself or do it privately. > Now, how about that trade? ;) > > Darcy ( dj monolith ) > > --- jackthetab wrote: > > listening to 128k bitrate is completely awful. How > > can you say that you > > would rather hear the music as 128k then not at > > all....you miss so much > > involvement with the music... > > its actually a complete waste of time....altho some > > people are more into the > > quantity then the quality.....and that is sad. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 10:17:20 -0800 (PST) From: dj monolith Subject: Re: (fax) Hello! Hmmm... I totally agree with your statements regarding stereo equipment. I would also like to add that the availability of really cheep dj equipment has been on the rise over the past few years. In the end, you get what you pay for. Now, if I could only find some good speakers at a decent price... Darcy ( dj monolith ) - --- jackthetab wrote: I did mean that statement about the > quantity over > quality....because it is not just limited to just > music.....it has seeped > into the stereo industry as well. Seems like the > market is over run with > cheap stereo equipment....good speakers are no > longer available at a decent > price. Mini systems seem to be running the > show...The quality of the systems > have been lost. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 13:21:41 -0500 From: "jackthetab" Subject: Re: (fax) Hello! good luck finding good speakers at a decent price. I have vintage speakers, and they kick ass. They are dated 1977 (Bang & Olufsen S75). jackthetab i think therefore i ambient #####\ _ /##### #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# ##### | /_woof/ | ##### #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# #####/ ######/ \###### \##### /_________________TRIBAL________________\ http://www.superior.net/~zothboy si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes - ----- Original Message ----- From: "dj monolith" To: "jackthetab" ; Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 1:17 PM Subject: Re: (fax) Hello! > Hmmm... I totally agree with your statements regarding > stereo equipment. I would also like to add that the > availability of really cheep dj equipment has been on > the rise over the past few years. > In the end, you get what you pay for. Now, if I could > only find some good speakers at a decent price... > > Darcy ( dj monolith ) > > --- jackthetab wrote: > I did mean that statement about the > > quantity over > > quality....because it is not just limited to just > > music.....it has seeped > > into the stereo industry as well. Seems like the > > market is over run with > > cheap stereo equipment....good speakers are no > > longer available at a decent > > price. Mini systems seem to be running the > > show...The quality of the systems > > have been lost. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 16:07:36 -0800 From: "sanvara" Subject: Re: (fax) Hello! > good luck finding good speakers at a decent price. I have vintage speakers, > and they kick ass. They are dated 1977 (Bang & Olufsen S75). Speaking of which, what are some good speakers at a decent price? I'm looking to get some better speakers. I'm talking like $500 or less for a pair. This would be for music-home listening, not home theater or anything. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 00:43:04 -0800 (PST) From: ambient Subject: Re: (fax) Detecting SHADO's correct listening environment - --- Greg Hill wrote: .. I do have to say the > last song was terrible! UFO dection system. > :-) that track definately requires the correct listening environment.... try playing it very loud.. driving 45 mile an hour, late at night, flying up and down the streets of San Francisco. At a time when the streets are all yours and the traffic lights are in synch with eachother. I mean.. really flying :-) Especially the landing zone of Franklin Street, northbound just before Lombard.....you can catch air at the right time of night! i love that track even more after that drive last year :-) ,scoUt np. spoken word of timothy leary __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ------------------------------ End of faxlist-digest V2002 #10 ******************************* --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org