From: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org (faxlist-digest) To: faxlist-digest@monkey.org Subject: faxlist-digest V2002 #12 Reply-To: faxlist@2350.org Sender: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Errors-To: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Precedence: bulk faxlist-digest Wednesday, January 16 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 012 RE: (fax) Elektrolux questions (fax) A few trades/wants (fax) Orb-related (fax) Bitrate Re: (fax) Bitrate RE: (fax) Bitrate (fax) Born Again Faxer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 11:37:26 +0100 From: "Twining, Chris" Subject: RE: (fax) Elektrolux questions I've used their site to orders CD's in the past, and have found them both reliable and cheap: Disc's arrive in the UK from Germany about three days after placing the order. Prices also very reasonable (for Europe) - only EUR15 per disc (about 9 quid). chris - -----Original Message----- From: John Whitney [mailto:mercuryvapor@yahoo.com] Sent: 09 January 2002 13:58 To: faxlist@2350.org Subject: Re: (fax) Elektrolux questions You can order straight from their site w/ a credit card. Happy shopping. John - --- Greg Hill wrote: > All of this discussion about Elektrolux has got me > interested..I love electro music(this is the type of > Electronic music that started it all for me! ITS > TIME!!Jonzun Crew, Newcleus, etc..)..what are some > of > the better electro melodic cds on the label, I > defiently want to pick up a few(not as interested in > the more ambient, space style)...my next question is > where the hell do you buy some of the cds from this > label?!? I couldn't find any web sites(AB-CD, Darla, > Ear-Rational) none of them had any of the cds... > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ - --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 10:08:22 +0000 From: "Paul Milligan" Subject: (fax) A few trades/wants Following are as new (disc, art & case)... Chris Meloche - WIRELESS - Fax Arovane - TIDES - City Centre Offices Robert Rich - TROUBLED RESTING PLACE - Fathom* (*Collects on one disc his mid-90's period, darker drones, originally found on the Throne/Swarm of Drones series, the Night Sky Replies ep and other difficult to find 'dark' compilations) Also have cdr of Masters of Psychedelic Ambience to toss in gratis, in case anyone fancies it. My wants are... Namlook's Silence V Inoue's World Receiver Roach's Blood Machine Schulze's Klangart (either vol) DJ Spooky's Dead Dreamer Shuttle358's Frame Monolake's Gravity or Hong Kong others considered. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 12:32:25 +0000 From: "Paul Ackrill" Subject: (fax) Orb-related Heff-ra said "you have to remember, L/X is only as interesting as the creative talent he surrounds himself with...All of the above should be considered "unmitigated opinion."". Well, fair enough. Incidentally, has anyone heard Alex Patersons 'Journey into Paradise'DJ mix album? PS Sorry for the delay between posts - thats the problem with only having access via work. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 13:51:25 -0600 From: "Jonathan Osborne" Subject: (fax) Bitrate > I have tried e-music before, and I immediately cancelled my account. > 128kb/s is totally unacceptable, considering we are paying for the mp3s. > At least a MINIMUM of 192 kb/s is required, 256kb/s is adequate and 320 > kb/s is prefarable. Humph! Oh yes, I'd much prefer to completely defeat the purpose of mp3 by using a 320k bitrate. Never mind the fact that it takes more than two megabytes per minute of music, thereby greatly increasing download time. What a lot of people don't seem to get is that a 320k mp3 is still an mp3. If you're so concerned about sound quality, what are you doing with mp3 in the first place? If you're going to tie up bandwidth by downloading enormous tracks, why not just buy the damn CD? Then you have clean, uncompressed audio without slowing down the internet for the rest of us. Thanks. :) Jonathan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 00:36:41 -0500 From: "jackthetab" Subject: Re: (fax) Bitrate yes, but at 128k, the quality is much less pleasing than that of a 320k mp3. I think mp3's are shit anyways....but hey, its yer money :-) jackthetab i think therefore i ambient #####\ _ /##### #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# ##### | /_woof/ | ##### #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# #####/ ######/ \###### \##### /_________________TRIBAL________________\ http://www.superior.net/~zothboy si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Osborne" To: Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 2:51 PM Subject: (fax) Bitrate > > I have tried e-music before, and I immediately cancelled my account. > > 128kb/s is totally unacceptable, considering we are paying for the mp3s. > > At least a MINIMUM of 192 kb/s is required, 256kb/s is adequate and 320 > > kb/s is prefarable. Humph! > > Oh yes, I'd much prefer to completely defeat the purpose of mp3 by using a > 320k bitrate. Never mind the fact that it takes more than two megabytes per > minute of music, thereby greatly increasing download time. > > What a lot of people don't seem to get is that a 320k mp3 is still an mp3. > If you're so concerned about sound quality, what are you doing with mp3 in > the first place? If you're going to tie up bandwidth by downloading > enormous tracks, why not just buy the damn CD? Then you have clean, > uncompressed audio without slowing down the internet for the rest of us. > Thanks. :) > > Jonathan > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 19:00:31 +1100 From: "Sebastian Pucilowski" Subject: RE: (fax) Bitrate Unfortunately I'll have to stick to mp3s until the artists I like start to appear in my music stores in Australia. Most of the stuff is incredibly difficult to source, and the idiots at the record stores say "oh but its discontinued". Sebastian Pucilowski - -----Original Message----- From: owner-faxlist@2350.org [mailto:owner-faxlist@2350.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Osborne Sent: Tuesday, 15 January 2002 6:51 AM To: faxlist@2350.org Subject: (fax) Bitrate > I have tried e-music before, and I immediately cancelled my account. > 128kb/s is totally unacceptable, considering we are paying for the > mp3s. At least a MINIMUM of 192 kb/s is required, 256kb/s is adequate > and 320 kb/s is prefarable. Humph! Oh yes, I'd much prefer to completely defeat the purpose of mp3 by using a 320k bitrate. Never mind the fact that it takes more than two megabytes per minute of music, thereby greatly increasing download time. What a lot of people don't seem to get is that a 320k mp3 is still an mp3. If you're so concerned about sound quality, what are you doing with mp3 in the first place? If you're going to tie up bandwidth by downloading enormous tracks, why not just buy the damn CD? Then you have clean, uncompressed audio without slowing down the internet for the rest of us. Thanks. :) Jonathan - --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax + www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 16:34:11 +0000 From: "Peter Dunlop" Subject: (fax) Born Again Faxer Like Dave Gillis, I've been a 'lurker' on the fax list since before Christmas and I think I'd better introduce myself. I first came by fax in 1993 via the Rising High release of Silence and was duly impressed, having previously been into the likes of Eno, Budd and Sylvian to get my ambient kicks. I then went on a major fax-buying mission but after about 12 months of buying mainly Fax and Rising High releases I decided that I didn't actually like a lot of what was being put out, turned away completely from ambient and veered towards the full-on dance side of things (Chem Bros, Leftfield, Orbital etc) and sold quite a lot of my collection. In retrospect I would say this was more due to a dislike of the Rising High output than to Fax's offerings. Seven years later whilst surfing the net (do people still say that?) I came across 2350.org and next thing I know my enthusiasm is sky high again. That was last summer. Since then I've been on a major fax-buying offensive. As at January 2002 I would say that my favourite fax series/artists are: Anything with Tetsu Inoue on (does anyone NOT like him?) Psychonavigation series Outland series Namlook live (IV, V, X, XIII, XIV & XV) Fires of Ork series David Reeves Chris Meloche Anyway, enough waffle. I'm out of breath after all that! The point of this e-mail is that I'm looking for a little advice please. Having got quite a lot of the beatless or very chilled side of fax, I'm after a few items with a bit of a beat to them. Albums which have caught my eye are: Modula Green Miles Apart Possible Gardens Jet Chamber Wired Virtual Vices I-III The three Spyra albums Planetarium I & II Bedroom 4Voice III Can anyone give me their views on what these are like? I've read the reviews on 2350 .Org but some of them only have one review which can be quite short or are a bit unclear to me as to what type of beats they are. If it helps, the type of releases I've not liked are (for eg): From Within 1 (Yes, I'm the one that didn't like it) IF 1 Couer Atomique Bytes by Black Dog (I know it's not Fax but it's a good indication ot the type of beats I'm aftraid I really dislike - too quirky for me). I think that's about it. I'm all out of lists!!!!!!!! Thanks, Pete Dunlop P.S. There was a programme on UK tv last night called Commando. I noticed Daniel Pemberton did the theme music. - ------------ This e-mail and any attachments are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Do not copy this e-mail or any attachments, use the contents for any purpose, or disclose the contents to any other person: to do so could be a breach of confidence. ------------------------------ End of faxlist-digest V2002 #12 ******************************* --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org