From: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org (faxlist-digest) To: faxlist-digest@monkey.org Subject: faxlist-digest V2002 #13 Reply-To: faxlist@2350.org Sender: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Errors-To: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Precedence: bulk faxlist-digest Thursday, January 17 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 013 Re: (fax) Born Again Faxer Re: (fax) Born Again Faxer Re: (fax) Born Again Faxer (fax) MP3s and all those gapless tracks RE: (fax) MP3s and all those gapless tracks Re: (fax) MP3s and all those gapless tracks RE: (fax) Born Again Faxer Re: (fax) Born Again Faxer RE: (fax) Born Again Faxer (fax) Tetsu backlash Re: (fax) Tetsu backlash (fax) 12 inch trades (fax) Tetsu backlash - now Namlook RE: (fax) Tetsu backlash - now Namlook RE: (fax) Born Again Faxer (fax) New Bola (was: Tetsu backlash - now Namlook) R: (fax) Born Again Faxer (fax) bola + tetsu (fax) Inoue/Laswell & CyScan RE: (fax) Inoue/Laswell & CyScan (fax) Re: Inoue/Laswell & CyScan (fax) Arovane's "Theme" Re: (fax) Arovane's "Theme" Re: (fax) Arovane's "Theme" (fax) Tetsu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 16:56:31 +0000 From: "Paul Milligan" Subject: Re: (fax) Born Again Faxer >Modula Green Fairly unclassifiable 'beats' but, your best investment of all as this one comes with a money-back guarantee. (Plenty of reviews for this one on 2350.) >Jet Chamber >Wired These are v.h.quality releases, although your dislike of IF tempts me to say try Jet Chamber rather than Wired. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 10:33:46 -0700 From: "Graham Banting" Subject: Re: (fax) Born Again Faxer > >Anything with Tetsu Inoue on (does anyone NOT like him?) Me. As much as I'm going to get flamed for this I really find his solo releases to be a let down considering all the hype about them. I tend to like his collaborations however (2350 Broadway 3 and the Shades of Orion series in particular). I realize that I'm probably one of the few on the list who find his solo releases overrated and am therefore prepared for the backlash. In my opinion I would recommend Spyra's FAX albums and Wired first. Without wanting to stir up all the debate from last year as to whether Spyra is brilliant or sucks, I think Spyra is one of the great new talents in IDM/ambient music today. You won't be dissapointed with his FAX output. regards, Graham >Can anyone give me their views on what these are like? I've read the >reviews on 2350 .Org but some of them only have one review which can be >quite short or are a bit unclear to me as to what type of beats they are. >If it helps, the type of releases I've not liked are (for eg): > >Modula Green >Miles Apart >Possible Gardens >Jet Chamber >Wired >Virtual Vices I-III >The three Spyra albums >Planetarium I & II >Bedroom >4Voice III > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:51:10 -0500 From: "jackthetab" Subject: Re: (fax) Born Again Faxer I do not like Tetsu Inoue, and most of his solo releases....some of his fax collabs are ok....but nothing special. so does that make three of us? jackthetab i think therefore i ambient #####\ _ /##### #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# ##### | /_woof/ | ##### #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# #####/ ######/ \###### \##### /_________________TRIBAL________________\ http://www.superior.net/~zothboy si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Banting" To: "Peter Dunlop" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 12:33 PM Subject: Re: (fax) Born Again Faxer > > > > > >Anything with Tetsu Inoue on (does anyone NOT like him?) > > Me. As much as I'm going to get flamed for this I really find his solo > releases to be a let down considering all the hype about them. I tend to > like his collaborations however (2350 Broadway 3 and the Shades of Orion > series in particular). I realize that I'm probably one of the few on the > list who find his solo releases overrated and am therefore prepared for the > backlash. > > > In my opinion I would recommend Spyra's FAX albums and Wired first. Without > wanting to stir up all the debate from last year as to whether Spyra is > brilliant or sucks, I think Spyra is one of the great new talents in > IDM/ambient music today. You won't be dissapointed with his FAX output. > > regards, Graham > > > >Can anyone give me their views on what these are like? I've read the > >reviews on 2350 .Org but some of them only have one review which can be > >quite short or are a bit unclear to me as to what type of beats they are. > >If it helps, the type of releases I've not liked are (for eg): > > > >Modula Green > >Miles Apart > >Possible Gardens > >Jet Chamber > >Wired > >Virtual Vices I-III > >The three Spyra albums > >Planetarium I & II > >Bedroom > >4Voice III > > > > > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 15:35:21 -0500 From: Spencer A Marks Subject: (fax) MP3s and all those gapless tracks Hi, i was wondering what solutions there where for ripping FAX cds to MP3 in a satisfactory manner. For example, Outland plays as one long track, but the cd itself really consists of many tracks that have no gaps between them. Of course when this disc is ripped all those tracks show as separate MP3 files. I am looking for a way to play them back without the gap. Thanks in advance. Spencer ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 14:36:22 -0700 From: "Craig D." Subject: RE: (fax) MP3s and all those gapless tracks Hello there, If you are using WinAMP for Windows, download this plugin: http://www.winamp.com/plugins/detail.jhtml?componentId=11282 After you've installed in, go into the preferences and configure the plugin (It will be located in the Output section of the preferences). Uncheck the box in the configuration. For whatever reason, it seems the plugin works better without that box checked. There's also another plugin for WinAMP at: http://www.winamp.com/plugins/detail.jhtml?componentId=24303 but I haven't had any experience with it. The one above has worked for me for years. If you are using a Mac, you should download the latest iTunes. Somewhere in its preferences, there's an option to do a crossfade. Turn the crossfade on, but set the slider to 0 seconds. This will remove most of the gap between MP3s. Of course neither of these methods are exactly "perfect", for you will still hear a little bit of a gap or a little "click" between songs, but it is 98% better than not having them at all. I hope this helps! Craig - -----Original Message----- From: owner-faxlist@2350.org [mailto:owner-faxlist@2350.org]On Behalf Of Spencer A Marks Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:35 PM To: faxlist@2350.org Subject: (fax) MP3s and all those gapless tracks Hi, i was wondering what solutions there where for ripping FAX cds to MP3 in a satisfactory manner. For example, Outland plays as one long track, but the cd itself really consists of many tracks that have no gaps between them. Of course when this disc is ripped all those tracks show as separate MP3 files. I am looking for a way to play them back without the gap. Thanks in advance. Spencer - --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 22:38:44 +0100 From: Torben Bjerregaard Subject: Re: (fax) MP3s and all those gapless tracks At 16-01-2002 15:35 -0500, Spencer A Marks wrote: >For example, Outland plays as one long track, but the cd itself really >consists of many tracks that have no gaps between them. Of course when >this disc is ripped all those tracks show as separate MP3 files. I am >looking for a way to play them back without the gap. Depending on the program you use for ripping, mark the whole disc as one big track and then encode it as one big mp3 file. I have found Exact Audio Copy(http://www.exactaudiocopy.de) to be the best and most precise ripper. And it's free. If you have already ripped an album into seperate tracks, you could try one of the gapless plugins for winamp. I use Gapless Audio Plugin 1.6 with OK results. Go to winamp.com and search for "gapless". /torben ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:57:28 -0800 From: Anthony Ballo Subject: RE: (fax) Born Again Faxer Anthony (35) here - been lurking somewhat myself. Just some quick thoughts: I love the 'Golden Age of Ambient' 1994-1996 I started _practicing_ Fax with 2350 BW II and have basically every CD released since. Used to own (used loosely) a little underground club called Global Warming in Ft. Lauderdale, FL where Namlook X was recorded. My feeble website: http://globalwm.net Submitted the pics of 2350 Broadway (the building) on the Fax Galleria site while visiting NYC years ago. Live in Northern Idaho now (Sandpoint) - not much of any scene in these parts. Favorite quote = 'Fax music is like Ambient crack' - Mixmaster Morris when he was in South Florida for a past WMC (Winter Music Conference). Had breakfast at an IHOP on Mother's Day after a show. He wore a reflective silver jumpsuit and silver sparkled Doc Martin boots. We got a few strange looks that Sunday... Second favorite quote = 'True love is rarer than a Oberheim 8 Voice' - Andre (from the list) I enjoy Future Music (FM) and Sound on Sound (SoS) mags. "-) - - Anthony - -----Original Message----- From: Peter Dunlop [mailto:Peter.Dunlop@marconi.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 8:34 AM To: faxlist@2350.org Subject: (fax) Born Again Faxer Like Dave Gillis, I've been a 'lurker' on the fax list since before Christmas and I think I'd better introduce myself. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 14:31:47 -0800 (PST) From: Greg Hill Subject: Re: (fax) Born Again Faxer I agree with you Graham on all your points...I do not like Tetsu Inoue(except possibly for Shades Of Orion)..and I TOTALLY agree about Spyra! he IS one of the best, IDM, Ambient, EM musician's around today..so at least you have another person on the list who will agree with you. - --- Graham Banting wrote: > > > > > >Anything with Tetsu Inoue on (does anyone NOT like > him?) > > Me. As much as I'm going to get flamed for this I > really find his solo > releases to be a let down considering all the hype > about them. I tend to > like his collaborations however (2350 Broadway 3 and > the Shades of Orion > series in particular). I realize that I'm probably > one of the few on the > list who find his solo releases overrated and am > therefore prepared for the > backlash. > > > In my opinion I would recommend Spyra's FAX albums > and Wired first. Without > wanting to stir up all the debate from last year as > to whether Spyra is > brilliant or sucks, I think Spyra is one of the > great new talents in > IDM/ambient music today. You won't be dissapointed > with his FAX output. > > regards, Graham > > > >Can anyone give me their views on what these are > like? I've read the > >reviews on 2350 .Org but some of them only have one > review which can be > >quite short or are a bit unclear to me as to what > type of beats they are. > >If it helps, the type of releases I've not liked > are (for eg): > > > >Modula Green > >Miles Apart > >Possible Gardens > >Jet Chamber > >Wired > >Virtual Vices I-III > >The three Spyra albums > >Planetarium I & II > >Bedroom > >4Voice III > > > > > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 18:28:25 -0800 From: "Raphael Almeria" Subject: RE: (fax) Born Again Faxer >Possible Gardens >Jet Chamber >Wired >Virtual Vices I-III >The three Spyra albums >Planetarium I & II >Bedroom >4Voice III >Can anyone give me their views on what these are like? I've read the >reviews on 2350 .Org but some of them only have one review which can be >quite short or are a bit unclear to me as to what type of beats they are. >If it helps, the type of releases I've not liked are (for eg): Well...Possible Gardens is not really beat-oriented and is more beautiful in the line of say Silence or Sad World. Virtual Vices II is awesome and is energetic (almost techno-ish). A coworker heard it playing from my office and immediately wanted to know what it was and where he could get it. Hmm...Spyra is good. Very good. Phonehead is pretty good. I recall Etherlands being good also but I rarely listen to it. I recently got Future of the Past and the triple-cd volume Elevator to Heaven. Future of the Past is very good and probably top on my list of 'must have' Der Spyra. Elevator to Heaven is a mixed bag with the only redeeming CD being the last one "The Bright Side of The Sun" which is actually very good. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:15:39 +0000 From: "Paul Milligan" Subject: (fax) Tetsu backlash > ...Inoue (does anyone not like him?) I supposes it was pretty obvious that a question like this would bring a few negative responses but, all things considered I think it fair to say that his three solo releases on Fax are a pretty monumental legacy. Also, I would hasten to add that, Namlook* aside, no other artist has done more (by musical contribution or otherwise) to establish the Fax legend over the years. However,I'd say this too ...to really appreciate Tetsu I think being in the right frame of mind is paramount. Years ago I listened to Slow & Low and thought it was pretty crappy but, revisited it one chilled out evening and completely changed my mind. (*Notwithstanding that PK has arguably done a few things over the past few years to deconstruct the Fax legend.) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 02:16:34 -0800 From: "sanvara" Subject: Re: (fax) Tetsu backlash > > ...Inoue (does anyone not like him?) I like Tetsu's solo stuff. I think his CD's are quite good, with some outstanding tracks, but none of them blow me away. My favorite thing he's doen musically is without a doubt Shades of Orion 1. I love that CD. > (*Notwithstanding that PK has arguably done a few things over the > past few years to deconstruct the Fax legend.) That's not really fair though. It's all subjective and depends on individual tastes. I guarantee you there are segments of people out there that love the releases that you don't and people that don't like some of the ones you love. As with any catalog as large as Fax it is impossible to produce 200 different releases that appeal to any single individual. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 11:21:21 +0100 From: "the-other-world" Subject: (fax) 12 inch trades Greetings to all, i am still searching some early 12"s from FAX, and got a lot of 12"s for trade. So here are my wants: PETE NAMLOOK Limelight FAX PK08/18 12" PETE NAMLOOK Hearts of space FAX PK08/20 12" PETE NAMLOOK 4 voice FAX PK08/22 12" PETE NAMLOOK Sextant FAX PK08/26 12" PETE NAMLOOK Limelight 2 FAX PK08/27 12" PETE NAMLOOK 4 voice 2 FAX PK08/30 12" PETE NAMLOOK Sequential 2 FAX PK08/33 12" and this is what i can offer for a trade: PETE NAMLOOK True Colours FAX PK08/16 12" PETE NAMLOOK Deltraxx FAX PK08/17 12" PETE NAMLOOK Escape FAX PK08/23 12" PETE NAMLOOK Syn Syl 2 FAX PK08/31 (white label)12" PETE NAMLOOK Deltraxx 3 FAX PK08/35 12" PETE NAMLOOK Crypt Corp. 3 FAX PK08/38 12" PETE NAMLOOK Harmonize 3 FAX PK08/40 12" PETE NAMLOOK Minimalistic Source 3 FAX PK08/41 12" PETE NAMLOOK Oversize Pussy 3 FAX PK08/45 12" PETE NAMLOOK Syn 3 FAX PK08/48 12" PETE NAMLOOK Deltraxx 4 FAX PK08/50 12" PETE NAMLOOK Crypt Corp. 4 FAX PK08/52 12" PETE NAMLOOK Minimalistic Source 4 FAX PK08/56 12" PETE NAMLOOK Synthadelic 4 FAX PK08/61 12" PETE NAMLOOK Oversize Pussy 4 FAX PK08/62 12" PETE NAMLOOK Escape 4 FAX PK08/63 12" PETE NAMLOOK Hearts of space 5 FAX PK08/80 (white label)12" PETE NAMLOOK Syn 5 FAX PK08/94 12" PETE NAMLOOK 4 Voice 6 FAX PK08/114 12" REDRUNM & MARK P. Modula green FAX PS08/20 12" MASSIMO VIVONA Gorn FAX PS08/44 12" GLITCH Inertia FAX PW03 12" PETER BENISCH Waiting for snow FAX PS08/92 CD TRANSONIC Downstream Illusion FAX AW013 CD PETE NAMLOOK Escape 4 SAPHO 24 (white label) 12" i am also looking for some 12"s released on other labels (e.g. Rising High,...) but my main wants are the above mentioned seven titles! Please also have a look at my tradingpage for some more items i got for trade... Hoping to get lots of trade suggestions ;) Joachim ############################################## # ^ # # / \ http://www.the-other-world.net # # < **> # # \~/ mailto:joachim@the-other-world.net # # ° # ############################################## ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:57:58 +0000 From: "Paul Milligan" Subject: (fax) Tetsu backlash - now Namlook >> (*Notwithstanding that PK has arguably done a few things over the >> past few years to deconstruct the Fax legend.) >That's not really fair though...I guarantee you there are segments of >people out there that love the releases that you don't You misunderstand. My point here is a wider one than just moaning about the drop off in quality (and that's 'quality' as in a lack of classics, rather than the mean average anyway)...it's a comment on his strategy, for want of better description. Examples are: dropping the Sub Label and just pumping out his own stuff, (and therefore starving the label of new blood), putting out as many re-releases and compilations as he does new material, dropping the now famous circle from artworks, effectively ceasing to perform live outside Germany and generally retreating into his own Traben Trarbach world. But, hey, all those things are his perogative. Just as it is mine to state my disapproval within this forum. On the contrary. It is very 'fair'. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 10:47:43 -0000 From: Edward Jones Subject: RE: (fax) Tetsu backlash - now Namlook I have to say I am with Paul on this one. It is our prerogative to constructively criticise anything on the label. In fact, this list would be unbelievably boring if everyone simply lapped up whatever musical morsels Pete decides to scrape off his plate. Pete (as is his right as someone making his living from music) has opted to reduce his level of financial risk by sticking to releases involving himself and reducing the quantity. This sucks artistically, but is understandable in the cold light of day in a business sense. Incidentally, we have had the "subjectivity/objectivity" debate so many times on this list, that it has become frankly extremely boring - therefore, once and for all, can we just assume, like right-thinking, rational people, that anything anyone posts on this list is his/her own opinion and is not intended to be interpreted as some universal truth. Slightly off-topic, but relevant to any fans of electronica: anyone heard the new Bola CD on Skam yet? DISCLAIMER: The information in this message is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this message by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, or distribution of the message, or any action or omission taken by you in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Please immediately contact the sender if you have received this message in error. Thank you. _____________________________________________________________________ (O)This message has been checked for all known viruses by MessageLabs. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 13:47:53 +0100 From: "Twining, Chris" Subject: RE: (fax) Born Again Faxer >In my opinion I would recommend Spyra's FAX albums and Wired first. Without >wanting to stir up all the debate from last year as to whether Spyra is >brilliant or sucks, I think Spyra is one of the great new talents in >IDM/ambient music today. You won't be dissapointed with his FAX output. I second Graham's comments about Spyra: Phonehead is prabably the best of his solo releases on FAX and all of the 'Virtual Vices' collaborations with Pete are also extremely good. There's also a good few non-FAX releases available on Manikin records: 'My Little Garden of Sounds' and 'Elevator to Heaven' in particular. Cheers, Chris ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 10:06:48 -0500 From: Circumflex Subject: (fax) New Bola (was: Tetsu backlash - now Namlook) on 1/17/02 5:47 AM, Edward Jones wrote: > Slightly off-topic, but relevant to any fans of electronica: anyone heard > the new Bola CD on Skam yet? I was able to find some mp3's of the new disk, and it's pretty good. I would probably recognize it as Bola if I didn't already know, so make of that what you will. However, I think it is less consistently good than 'Soup' but a is step up from 'Mauver'. There are definitely some good things going on with this disk, but I don't exactly remember what I heard after listening to it. It's and better than average IDM release, but just barely. I'd prolly give it a 6 or 7 out of 10 on the ultra scientific music rating system (USMRS). Obligatory Fax content: I haven't bought any Fax cd's in about a year, and I'm still looking for JC3. Go figure. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 14:26:03 +0100 From: "stm" Subject: R: (fax) Born Again Faxer > Second favorite quote = 'True love is rarer than a Oberheim 8 Voice' - Andre > (from the list) Mmmh! I like this one too :-) - -- Riccardo .. . . . . . . . . . . .. tradepage http://digilander.iol.it/radioactivetoy/ .. . . . . . . . . . . .. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:41:41 -0600 (CST) From: Phonaut Subject: (fax) bola + tetsu On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Edward Jones wrote: > Slightly off-topic, but relevant to any fans of electronica: anyone heard > the new Bola CD on Skam yet? I've listened to it twice so far. My initial impressions of it were good, can't really be too specific as i'm still pretty unfamiliar with it, however, i can mention that i spotted not one but 2 delerium/synaesthesia samples during it (from 'Spheres' era). I thought Bola's first album was fantastic, and he seems to have put a lot of work into his lp follow-up, so i'm pretty enthusiastic of Bola in general at this point. There's a CD, a 2x12" vinyl, and collector-friendly 2x12" picturedisc version. On the Tetsu tip, i too would have to agree with Paul. i don't think you can point to any other single musician on Faxlabel (besides Namlook himself) that was as strong a driving force as he. When I get updates from PBE or say Ear Rational/FaxUSA often it's most of the Inoue titles that are sold out, and four of the albums he worked on have been reissued on Ambient World. What other musician pumped out 18 titles for Namlook (including 3 fantastic solo albums), many of which are the most sought after releases on the label period (Shades, 2350 Broadway, Ambiant Otaku, Organic Cloud, Datacide II, to name a few). Bill Laswell shares this distinction a bit i suppose, same number of releases and reissues (i think), but the only 2 i have any difficulty finding these days are Outland & Outer Dark, which i still think are 2 of his best (and earliest) efforts on the label. Incidentally i spotted a sealed copy of the original Ambiant Otaku on ebay the other day. checked today and it's gone, looks like someone did the 'buy it now' feature for 95$?! I never thought i'd see that sort of thing again after the reissue, but there you have it. On the flip side, i see a World Receiver there now for 6$. n/p np: Aki Onda "Precious Moments" . . . . . . ..... . . . . . . Official Tetsu Inoue Homepage, RadioShow Playlists, and Trades @: http://ww1.math.luc.edu/~njurcin or http://phonaut.cjb.net/ (chat) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:52:57 +0000 From: "Paul Milligan" Subject: (fax) Inoue/Laswell & CyScan Noah wrote: > On the Tetsu tip, i too would have to agree with Paul > ... Bill Laswell shares this distinction a bit i suppose, > same number of releases and reissues (i think) ...etc I think a significant distinction here between Tetsu and Bill is that Bill only has one solo album to his name on Fax which, in my view anyway, does not stack up to any of Tetsu's solo releases. However, as a body of solo works Otaku + Cloud + S&L eclipse Outer Dark. Incidently, I'd rather listen to CyScan than Outer Dark to be honest, which of course is a collab between the two. I've heard this one just sort of 'evolved' from an unscheduled knob-twiddling session ... is that true? I know CyScan is pretty minimalistic stuff but, it works for me at 1.00am in the morning. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 16:20:47 -0000 From: "Corbin, Nick (CAP, EEF)" Subject: RE: (fax) Inoue/Laswell & CyScan Paul wrote: >I know CyScan is pretty minimalistic stuff but, it works for me at 1.00am in the morning. it can be a bit scary at that sorta time with the lights out :) This e-mail is intended for the addressee(s) named above only. As this e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information, if you are not the named addressee(s) or the person responsible for delivering the message to the named addressee(s), please telephone us immediately. The contents of this e-mail should not be disclosed to any other person nor copies taken. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 10:53:59 -0600 (CST) From: Phonaut Subject: (fax) Re: Inoue/Laswell & CyScan > I think a significant distinction here between Tetsu and Bill > is that Bill only has one solo album to his name on Fax > which, in my view anyway, does not stack up to any of Tetsu's agreed. and i really like that second track in Outer Dark a lot, there's something about the way all the voices and sounds in it swirl around, it really stirs me up! > to CyScan than Outer Dark to be honest, which of course is a > collab between the two. I've heard this one just sort of > 'evolved' from an unscheduled knob-twiddling session ... is > that true? sure, check it out: Bill Laswell on the creation of Cymatic Scan: (taken from an interview with Laswell in the Dec94 issue #130 of The Wire) "That was done really quickly. I don't think he (Tetsu Inoue) realised we were doing it. I set up a bunch of guitars and stuff, like with E-Bows. He works all analogue, so it's like Electro Harmonix pedals and a bunch of keyboards. You just set it all up and because of the effect of the pedals, they all start talking to each another. And that's incredible. It's always different. I'd set up the same with string instruments, which I never touched this way [mimics normal playing position] but I'd just do stuff with them when they were down flat. Because I had a volume pedal and primitive pedals, the pedals were doing all the talking. We did that for like an hour and then I said, 'We got it.' He's like, 'OK, I think I'm ready.' And I said, 'No, we shouldn't mess with that. That was really good.'" Something else to mention.. not sure how many around here are into Kit Clayton's music, but he's got photomanipulation credit on the new Inoue/Stone release 'pict.soul' I emailed Tetsu to see if this meant there was a possible musical project with him coming up, i'll send the info onto Faxlist when it comes. n/p np: Jim O'Rourke "i'm happy & i'm smiling and a 1,2,3,4" . . . . . . ..... . . . . . . Official Tetsu Inoue Homepage, RadioShow Playlists, and Trades @: http://ww1.math.luc.edu/~njurcin or http://phonaut.cjb.net/ (chat) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 16:24:25 +0000 From: "Paul Milligan" Subject: (fax) Arovane's "Theme" Apologies for this non-Fax item but, I was wondering... ...does anybody else feel as I do, that "Theme" (the opening track on Arovane's Tides) is just one increeeeedible piece of electronic music? Sounds like something Thijs Van Leer might have composed in a moment of pure inspiration and, of course, had he been born 30 years later than he was! np. Tides/Arovane ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:10:50 -0800 (PST) From: John Whitney Subject: Re: (fax) Arovane's "Theme" - --- Paul Milligan wrote: .does anybody else feel as I do, that "Theme" (the > opening > track on Arovane's Tides) is just one increeeeedible > piece of > electronic music? I love that whole album -- weren't they supposed to come out with a new one... 'Bent Soil' or something? I can't wait till it happens. Thanks, John Whitney > > Sounds like something Thijs Van Leer might have > composed > in a moment of pure inspiration and, of course, had > he been > born 30 years later than he was! > > np. Tides/Arovane > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 11:21:06 -0600 (CST) From: Phonaut Subject: Re: (fax) Arovane's "Theme" On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, John Whitney wrote: > I love that whole album -- weren't they supposed to > come out with a new one... 'Bent Soil' or something? yep, coming out on Neo Ouija label in the UK, home to other fine artists such as Metamatics, Accelera Deck, Sense, Geiom.. http://www.neoouija.co.uk/ can't find a release date yet tho, frankly i'm hoping it's more like 'atol scrap' then 'tides', but he's a great musician all around. n/p . . . . . . ..... . . . . . . Official Tetsu Inoue Homepage, RadioShow Playlists, and Trades @: http://ww1.math.luc.edu/~njurcin or http://phonaut.cjb.net/ (chat) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:34:34 -0500 From: "jackthetab" Subject: (fax) Tetsu is a sell out! jackthetab i think therefore i ambient #####\ _ /##### #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# ##### | /_woof/ | ##### #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# #####/ ######/ \###### \##### /_________________TRIBAL________________\ http://www.superior.net/~zothboy si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes ------------------------------ End of faxlist-digest V2002 #13 ******************************* --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org