From: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org (faxlist-digest) To: faxlist-digest@monkey.org Subject: faxlist-digest V2002 #25 Reply-To: faxlist@2350.org Sender: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Errors-To: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Precedence: bulk faxlist-digest Sunday, February 3 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 025 (fax) Ten-Year blah, blah, blah (fax) Re: FAX (fax) Call for help Re: (fax) Ten-Year blah, blah, blah Re: (fax) Pete Namlook speaks...10 years Re: (fax) FAX << X >> (fax) another suggestion Re: (fax) Pete Namlook speaks...10 years RE: (fax) FAX Re: (fax) FAX << X >> (fax) Ambient CookBook 2 (fax) Ambient Comp 2 artwork ( w/ special trade offers) Re: (fax) Ambient CookBook 2 Re: (fax) FAX << X >> (fax) Another 10th anniversary idea RE: (fax) Ambient CookBook 2 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 11:37:06 -0600 From: "Jonathan Osborne" Subject: (fax) Ten-Year blah, blah, blah I think it's cool that Namlook has asked what people may want for the ten year anniversary. However, I also think it's gonna be very tricky to please everyone. A compilation set wouldn't do the job for many Fax fans. A book would be very cool. Maybe a square-shaped book with all the cover art...that would be very interesting to look at...and maybe some explanation as to what exactly the art depicts, and what it means/meant to the artist. And then I suppose we could vote on the top five or so favorite Fax albums, and they could be included with the book. Granted, the whole package would easily cost more than $100, but it might be worth it for some high-quality artwork. Jonathan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 12:39:27 -0500 From: muziknut2@juno.com Subject: (fax) Re: FAX >>> MuzikNut would like a "copy" of it on MD... (i mean after all, this is going to be a limited OOP release and heck...blah, blah...) preferably if you can "squeeze" the entire release, of whatever Namlook decides to do that is special, on one MD...that would make MuzikNut happier. <<< Please, Ambient, don't be evil. Only the ones that are otherwise unavailable in original Fax pressings are what I wanna trade, anyway. And my official 'net moniker is MuzikJunky. Let's not start a flame war, people! Peace. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 17:11:55 +0000 From: "Paul Milligan" Subject: (fax) Call for help Does anyone know of an on-line retailer who has a copy of Richard Wahnfried's (ie. Klaus Schulze's) TONWELLE in stock ... or even own a copy they'd be interested in trading? Fingers crossed! Paul ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 11:32:55 -0800 (PST) From: John Whitney Subject: Re: (fax) Ten-Year blah, blah, blah - --- Jonathan Osborne wrote: Granted, > the whole package would > easily cost more than $100, but it might be worth it > for some high-quality > artwork. Over $100! Ouch! You can celebrate without me then! :-) John __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 13:47:47 -0600 (CST) From: Phonaut Subject: Re: (fax) Pete Namlook speaks...10 years > > on the one hand you are right.. if I grasped it the > > right way.. what comment is he responding to here ambient? > > on the other hand it is not *my* list although it is a lot about > > my output.. > > so I cannot say what is right or wrong to say on this list I am > > not the authority there. i guessing most of us around here would agree that Namlook *is* in fact an authority around here. after all, who knows more factual information about this label but Namlook?? ;-) so it is particularly upsetting to hear his remarks of people bootlegging his music. Thankfully, with well over 100 different Faxlabel releases (purchased originals) filed in my CD collection, i'm not among the guilty putting Faxlabel out of bidness. i would also agree that an internet poll isn't necessarily the the most accurate way to narrow down what releases should be reissued, if any. But then again, i do think the reissue of 2350 Broadway 1 is pretty scarce these days, maybe it didn't sell out the first 10 weeks but it must be getting close now? i wonder how the others on AW are doing. > I'd love to see a book but i can say pretty confidently that it will never > happen unless someone wants to fund it.. you're right. so how another suggestion, something a little bit realistic..: Volume II of the Ambient Cookbook again on (4xCD!!): - more of Pete's delicious/convenient recipes - interactive menu psychonavigations - accompanying mixed soundclips - 2xCDs Best of/Recent Favorites (mixed, please) - 1 CD unreleased music + 1 multimedia CD ?! all of these functions could easily be included on a CD +media, just like they did nicely on the Biosphere/HIA Birmingham Frequencies for instance. He could ask his buddies Geir & Bobby how they did it even.. i want to see clips of Pete mixing in up in his studio AND his kitchen!! ;-)) > as for re-releases, this again falls into the 2350 broadway syndrome of > cost VS demand.. a DVD however is probably the closest idea to reality.. there you go.. and those with original copies of the Ambient Cookbook can confirm the phrase on the rear cover: "if you pay more than the normal Fax-Double-CD-Price for this album you are being ripped off !!!!!" Birmingham Freq's wasn't abnormally expensive, although it may be now as it's probably getting harder to find.. so Namlook could still charge a reasonable price (i would easily pay 40$ for such an item new) and people would get a kick ass product promising substantial listening pleasure! haha damn, exciting just thinking about such a thing.. n/p np- v/a: vertical forms . . . . . . ..... . . . . . . Official Tetsu Inoue Homepage, RadioShow Playlists, and Trades @: http://ww1.math.luc.edu/~njurcin or http://phonaut.cjb.net/ (chat) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 14:50:42 EST From: Upaka@aol.com Subject: Re: (fax) FAX << X >> Well honestly, I really don't want any fax memorabilia. T-shirts, books, DVDs are okay, but I like Fax because of the music. (Plus I don't have a DVD player) Reissues of old stuff are okay (for example, I'd love to hear Sequential), but I think the ten year anniversary release should be something new and forward looking. What about a release along the lines of the Seasons Greetings series, only 'Happy Anniversary' instead? Maybe some nice dreamy ambiance, or whatever Namlook wants to do. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 13:58:40 -0600 (CST) From: Phonaut Subject: (fax) another suggestion three words: Namlook Sample Collection. n/p np- vir unis "Lumen" . . . . . . ..... . . . . . . Official Tetsu Inoue Homepage, RadioShow Playlists, and Trades @: http://ww1.math.luc.edu/~njurcin or http://phonaut.cjb.net/ (chat) ------------------------------ Date: 01 Feb 2002 15:08:58 -0500 From: Ian Wedegartner Subject: Re: (fax) Pete Namlook speaks...10 years Hello, If we are going to have a FAX DVD out there can we please have a 5.1 mix = on the thing? Otherwise, what's the point? Seriously, Ian PS: I feel the same way about the Robert Rich DVD, and yes I know it = wouldn't be as long then....... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 13:34:50 -0800 (PST) From: Greg Hill Subject: RE: (fax) FAX the Ulrich cd is amazing! track 3 is one of the best IDM style tracks I have heard in a while!!! what percussion, and great synth sounds..this cd is top notch, and would reccommend anyone buying it if you like IDM style of EM. - --- Agust A J wrote: > At 14:22 1.2.2002 +0000, you wrote: > >p.s. can i just recommend 'far away trains passing > by' by ulrich schnauus on > >german/uk label city centre offices. top, brilliant > beaty ambient. > > I absolutely can't stand by idly without throwing in > my top recommendation > for this beautiful luscious wonderful cd..... > a bit short maybe, only 6 tracks at 43 minutes > but..... > when describing the beauty of track #5 (Nobody's > Home) to some friends on > irc I used rather colorful language... definitely > not PG rated :> > but... the single biggest musical explosive orgasm > I've had in a long time ;) > > very very very highly recommended > > np: tomas jirku: immaterial (lovely lovely lovely > dark glitch dub) > coming up next: lackluster: wrapping (his next > forthcoming cd... totally > stuck on repeat here) > > --- > Agust "Nemesis1" - aaj@centrum.is - ICQ: 1290264 > - http://nem1.cjb.net > free your :) [tm] > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 15:38:37 -0800 From: "sanvara" Subject: Re: (fax) FAX << X >> > Well honestly, I really don't want any fax memorabilia. T-shirts, books, > DVDs are okay, but I like Fax because of the music. (Plus I don't have a DVD > player) But a DVD would have music on it. In 5.1 sound no less. :) I think that's the next step in music. Releasing music CDs with 5.1 mixes. You don't have a DVD player? You don't still watch movies on VHS tapes do you? DVD is so vastly superior. Also DVD players can be bought very inexpensively these days: $80 or so for low-end models and many computers already have DVD players on them. No excuse not to have a DVD player unless you are a starving college student or something...or you just don't watch movies. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2002 13:28:34 +1100 From: "andre@sansserif.com.au" Subject: (fax) Ambient CookBook 2 I think this is the best suggestion ive heard to date and also the most realistic... .. im going to suggest it to namlook.. if this was to happen im sure the list could then produce the best possible tracklisting for the 4 CDs. lo.rez / hi.rez / and.rez andre ruello - sansserifgrafik ph. 0414 611 635 - http://www.sansserif.com.au ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 18:05:23 -0800 From: Graham Banting Subject: (fax) Ambient Comp 2 artwork ( w/ special trade offers) In order to make someone bite on my desire to have a high resolution scan of : Ambient Compilation 2 - PK 08/02 I've got some bait. To anyone who can get me a high res scan of the above will get themselves their choice of one of the following CDrs Hawtin, Richie (aka Plastikman) Little Further, Madison, WI 5/29/99 (2CD) Hawtin, Richie (aka Plastikman) Sonar99 @ Row, Barcelona, Spain 6/19/99 Hawtin, Richie (aka Plastikman) Rex, Paris, France 6/23/99 Hawtin, Richie (aka Plastikman) Fuse, Brussels, Belgium 6/25/99 Hawtin, Richie (aka Plastikman) Impulz Indoor, Brabanthallen, Netherlands 2/17/01 Hawtin, Richie (aka Plastikman) Mazzo, Amsterdam, Netherlands 10/16/01 Future Sound of London (FSOL) ISDN II, Villo65 VPRO FM, Netherlands 9/11/96 Interactive Music - RI 027 thanks, Graham I also have the following Atom Heart CDs to trade away: Lassigue Bendthaus Automotif (CD5) Lassigue Bendthaus Hertz (CD5) Lassigue Bendthaus Biohazard (CD5) Lassigue Bendthaus Biofeedback (CD5) no reasonable offer refused regards, Graham ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 19:26:32 -0800 From: "sanvara" Subject: Re: (fax) Ambient CookBook 2 > I think this is the best suggestion ive heard to date and also the most > realistic... > > .. im going to suggest it to namlook.. > > if this was to happen im sure the list could then produce the best possible > tracklisting for the 4 CDs. Nothing wrong with this idea but it doesn't really seem "special" enough for something as big as a 10 year anniversary. It sounds like the easiest idea to accomplish though. So I guess it depends how much time and effort Peter wants to put into this. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 01:17:06 EST From: Upaka@aol.com Subject: Re: (fax) FAX << X >> In a message dated 2/1/02 6:38:45 PM, you wrote: > You don't have a DVD player? You don't still watch movies on VHS tapes do >you? DVD is so vastly superior. No excuse not to have a DVD player unless >you are a starving college student or something...or you just don't watch >movies. I don't want a DVD player. I don't want a Minidisc player. I want a Minimoog Voyager. After I get one, then maybe I'll think about getting a DVD player. But don't worry, I don't watch movies on VHS, I watch them on 8 millimeter. :) Anyway, anyone else agree with me that a Anniversary CD with exclusive new music would be nice? Remember, if enough people chime in we might actually get it! My real objection to a Fax DVD is that so few people would buy it, and it would be so much work for poor Mr. Kuhlmann. Wouldn't you rather have him spend the time making music? Fax is all Namlook, and whatever we come up with, Pete's the one who's going to have to go and figure out how to do it. ps - Berate me for my data storage choices off-list. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 23:17:41 -0800 From: "sanvara" Subject: (fax) Another 10th anniversary idea > My real objection to a Fax DVD is that so few people would buy it, and it > would be so much work for poor Mr. Kuhlmann. Wouldn't you rather have him > spend the time making music? Fax is all Namlook, and whatever we come up > with, Pete's the one who's going to have to go and figure out how to do it. Yeah a DVD probably would be a lot of work. Maybe too much. Although maybe Peter knows someone who can do it pretty easily. Who knows. Anyway, I think something should be done that's beyond "just another Cd release". A softcover book with a history of Fax, complete discography artwork reproduced, photos of recording sessions etc, with a CD of unreleased material would be another nice thing and not too outrageously expensive if it's a softcover book. Something for a 10th anniversay should be done that documents the history of the label. Anyone seen the ClockDVA "Black words on white paper" Book/CD that was released on Contempo/Italy? Something like that. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 12:34:20 -0500 From: Anthony Ballo Subject: RE: (fax) Ambient CookBook 2 - -----Original Message----- From: sanvara [mailto:sanvara@home.com] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 7:27 PM Nothing wrong with this idea but it doesn't really seem "special" enough for something as big as a 10 year anniversary. It sounds like the easiest idea to accomplish though. So I guess it depends how much time and effort Peter wants to put into this. I think (in reality) the Ambient Cookbook is most likely what we could get. Toss my vote in. You can do alot with 4 cds. Heck, if there is enough material, can you make cd#4 a data cd (?) - Anthony ------------------------------ End of faxlist-digest V2002 #25 ******************************* --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org