From: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org (faxlist-digest) To: faxlist-digest@monkey.org Subject: faxlist-digest V2002 #26 Reply-To: faxlist@2350.org Sender: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Errors-To: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Precedence: bulk faxlist-digest Monday, February 4 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 026 (fax) 10 year cookbook RE: (fax) Ambient CookBook 2 Re: (fax) Ambient CookBook 2 RE: (fax) Ambient CookBook 2 RE: (fax) Ambient CookBook 2 (fax) Ambient CookBook 2 enthusiasm Re: (fax) Ambient CookBook 2 enthusiasm Re: (fax) Ambient CookBook 2 enthusiasm (fax) 10 year (fax) Demotion? Re: (fax) Ambient CookBook 2 (fax) unreleased material Re: (fax) unreleased material Re: (fax) 10 year Re: (fax) 10 year ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 10:45:00 -0800 (PST) From: David Gilliss Subject: (fax) 10 year cookbook i wasn't sold on this at first, but then i thought about how nice the first one really was. i liked the "fax greatest hits" approach since i didn't have a cdr at the time to make my own. it also had that real "liner notes" feel that's a pretty rare creature in electronic music. my only regret is only buying one cookbook when my local shop had about 10 of them! dave-g __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 20:59:48 +0100 (MET) From: Leszek Zabinski Subject: RE: (fax) Ambient CookBook 2 Kind of late into the discussion but... yeah Cookbook Two is a good idea. It would be nice if at least one cd of the set consisted of rare (vinyls) or unreleased material (data disc would do it as well). More luxurious options (book, dvd) could become true only if a considerable amount of people subscribed and paid the price beforehand. cheers, Leszek. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 22:29:21 -0000 From: "David Calvert" Subject: Re: (fax) Ambient CookBook 2 I would definitely be up for a multi-CD compilation of any sort (so long as there's no cheesy picture like on A View to a Chill) as on the whole they do work particularly well - I am playing Ambient Compilation 2 at the moment and it's truly wonderful. Some good liner notes by the man himself would also be appreciated. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Leszek Zabinski To: Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 7:59 PM Subject: RE: (fax) Ambient CookBook 2 > > Kind of late into the discussion but... yeah Cookbook Two is a good idea. > It would be nice if at least one cd of the set consisted of rare > (vinyls) or unreleased material (data disc would do it as well). > > More luxurious options (book, dvd) could become true only if a > considerable amount of people subscribed and paid the price beforehand. > > > cheers, > > Leszek. > > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 09:10:33 -0000 From: "Corbin, Nick (CAP, EEF)" Subject: RE: (fax) Ambient CookBook 2 > I think this is the best suggestion ive heard to date and also the most realistic... >.. im going to suggest it to namlook.. > if this was to happen im sure the list could then produce the best possible tracklisting for the 4 CDs. this is a brilliant idea, especially the bit about the list choosing the tracklisting, cos then we would feel we had some real direct input into it, plus pk could then put a few unreleased tracks on perhaps...?? l This e-mail is intended for the addressee(s) named above only. 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Re DVD idea, Autechre are currently authoring a DVD to be released on Warp, so it cannot be that extraordinarily expensive an undertaking, especially if Robert Rich (who can only do figures in the Namlook region at best!). That would be a nice addition to an anniversary set. I would favour the following: 2xCD compilation of out of print gems (one disc to feature vinyl material that did not make it to CD, the other a greatest sublabel compilation), with a CD-Rom section of graphics and info 1xCD of previously unavailable material 1xDVD featuring the remastered "Putney" video, together with live footage and some 5.1 audio. My tuppence worth! DISCLAIMER: The information in this message is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this message by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, or distribution of the message, or any action or omission taken by you in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Please immediately contact the sender if you have received this message in error. Thank you. _____________________________________________________________________ (O)This message has been checked for all known viruses by MessageLabs. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 09:25:44 +0000 From: "Paul Milligan" Subject: (fax) Ambient CookBook 2 enthusiasm >Unreleased material is a must in my view. I would feel a little resentful at >being asked to part with US$25 for stuff I already own elsewhere I'm with Ed 100% on this one. Who wants *another* compilation when you've already got virtually everything on it. Can't understand why this idea so popular ... the implication of PK's question to Warren (I thought) was by way of what Faxheads might like and surely Faxheads have most releases! I still think a 2cd set of unreleased-on-cd/new/remixed or whatever, accompanied by a tasteful (realistically priced) booklet is the answer. You can get a hell of a lot of info & images into say 24pp cd size. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 10:10:54 -0000 From: "Wesley Kerr" Subject: Re: (fax) Ambient CookBook 2 enthusiasm Paul wrote: > You can get a hell of a lot of info & images into say 24pp cd size. Plus if people really want hi-res images of all the artwork, as some have been saying, then surely these could be included as data on all or part of a CD along with comments, etc. I agree that any release should contain a significant portion (at least 50%) of new or previously unreleased work. Otherwise, I for one will not be too interested. Wesley ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 03:13:51 -0700 From: "Craig D." Subject: Re: (fax) Ambient CookBook 2 enthusiasm Hello there, Been reading this thread for a few days now, and I think a new CD set would be great. Like someone said in a previous post, something along the lines of a Seasons Greetings set would work for me. I don't like the idea of any sort of "merchandise" because that's not what FAX is about. FAX is about the music, so I think it would only be appropriate for the 10 year anniversary "gift" to be something musical. I like the idea of a Cookbook 2, but as others have said, another compilation of titles that a lot of people may already have may not be too exciting. I also like the DVD 5.1 idea. Maybe Namlook can make "Namlook XVIII" (or whatever he's up to) and have it be a live, video recorded performance. Maybe it could also come with a bonus CD. Just my opinion Craig D. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 23:04:23 +1100 From: "andre@sansserif.com.au" Subject: (fax) 10 year Just to clarify, The idea of Ambient cookbook 2 is exactly that, an idea. i dont speak for Fax on any official level.. And as for the idea of a book.. i CAN say that it aint going to happen.. unless someone other than namlook pays for it.. at the end of the day, you've got to think about this thing from Namlooks point of view.. sure, impressing and satisfying the fans is something that he wants to do but at the end of the day he has a label, which is his business and income, to think about.. i dont want to rain on anyones parade, yet i wouldnt like people to get hopes up about ideas that are just ideas... andre. sansserifgrafik andre ruello - human/cyborg relations ph. 0414 611 635 - http://www.sansserif.com.au ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 12:05:12 +0000 From: "Paul Milligan" Subject: (fax) Demotion? >sansserifgrafik >andre ruello - human/cyborg relations >ph. 0414 611 635 - http://www.sansserif.com.au "human/cyborg relations" ... didn't it used to be junior Vice President ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 09:08:18 -0600 From: Subject: Re: (fax) Ambient CookBook 2 <<2xCD compilation of out of print gems (one disc to feature vinyl material that did not make it to CD, the other a greatest sublabel compilation), with a CD-Rom section of graphics and info 1xCD of previously unavailable material 1xDVD featuring the remastered "Putney" video, together with live footage and some 5.1 audio. My tuppence worth!>> i agree here later, george ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 10:12:58 -0500 (EST) From: Warren Lapham Subject: (fax) unreleased material Just a fast note about the possibility of unreleased tracks surfacing. I told Herr Kuhlmann that people on the list were wondering about this. His reply was: "not many.. thats the domain of Klaus Schulze ;-)" So, again, like the book, I wouldn't count on it... - -w. - -- Warren Lapham. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 15:39:03 +0000 From: "Paul Milligan" Subject: Re: (fax) unreleased material >Just a fast note about the possibility of unreleased tracks surfacing. > >I told Herr Kuhlmann that people on the list were wondering about this. > >His reply was: "not many.. thats the domain of Klaus Schulze ;-)" A word or two in Klaus's defence... 1. The reason KS had such a mountainous backlog to release on the sets that were known as Historic, Silver Jubilee and then Ultimate was basically because he'd only been putting out 1-2 releases a year for the best part of quarter of a century. PK obviously released a lot of material from day one. 2. KS and publisher (KDM) wanted to counteract the questionable trade in KS bootlegging - after all why should the bootleggers get all the money and KS none of it? I'm not sure if PK was having a small dig at KS when he passed this remark (and I fully appreciate he may not have been !!) but, I thought it only fair to round out the facts. Incidently, I own most of KS's mainstream releases but, none of the aforementioned box sets. Always, quality before quantity ! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 13:18:57 -0500 From: "jackthetab" Subject: Re: (fax) 10 year how about lets do nothing at all...like everyone else does :-) jackthetab i think therefore i ambient #####\ _ /##### #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# ##### | /_woof/ | ##### #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# #####/ ######/ \###### \##### /_________________TRIBAL________________\ http://www.superior.net/~zothboy si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Fax List" Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 7:04 AM Subject: (fax) 10 year > Just to clarify, The idea of Ambient cookbook 2 is exactly that, an idea. > > i dont speak for Fax on any official level.. > > > > And as for the idea of a book.. i CAN say that it aint going to happen.. > unless someone other than namlook pays for it.. > > at the end of the day, you've got to think about this thing from Namlooks > point of view.. > > sure, impressing and satisfying the fans is something that he wants to do > but at the end of the day he has a label, which is his business and income, > to think about.. > > > i dont want to rain on anyones parade, yet i wouldnt like people to get > hopes up about ideas that are just ideas... > > andre. > > > sansserifgrafik > andre ruello - human/cyborg relations > ph. 0414 611 635 - http://www.sansserif.com.au > > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 11:16:38 -0800 (PST) From: dj monolith Subject: Re: (fax) 10 year It has been interesting reading all the different ideas for a 10-year anniv. special. I can appreciate the cost this might run up-front and PK's hesitance in doing something extravagant. What about doing a limited edition "something" where the print run = however many were pre-ordered? Is anyone familiar with the BadOrb stuff? We can pre-order and PAY FOR the item beforehand. FAX can include a limited edition of ?/? certificate based on how many were preorderd. That way, Pete won't get stuck with extras and he will have the $$ beforehand. This idea really adds to the excitement/collectibility of the item as well. I would love to see unreleased vinyl tracks on CD, an art book, other unreleased tracks. What about the entire catalog with covers and interiors on disk rather than in book format?? This label is just too cool to NOT do something great for the 10-year. I am sure that between the label and the fans (I wonder what cool items everyone has stored on their computers) this can be something really cool indeed. Darcy ( dj monolith ) - --- "andre@sansserif.com.au" wrote: > Just to clarify, The idea of Ambient cookbook 2 is > exactly that, an idea. > > i dont speak for Fax on any official level.. > > > > And as for the idea of a book.. i CAN say that it > aint going to happen.. > unless someone other than namlook pays for it.. > > at the end of the day, you've got to think about > this thing from Namlooks > point of view.. > > sure, impressing and satisfying the fans is > something that he wants to do > but at the end of the day he has a label, which is > his business and income, > to think about.. > > > i dont want to rain on anyones parade, yet i wouldnt > like people to get > hopes up about ideas that are just ideas... > > andre. > > > sansserifgrafik > andre ruello - human/cyborg relations > ph. 0414 611 635 - http://www.sansserif.com.au > > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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