From: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org (faxlist-digest) To: faxlist-digest@monkey.org Subject: faxlist-digest V2002 #29 Reply-To: faxlist@2350.org Sender: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Errors-To: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Precedence: bulk faxlist-digest Friday, February 8 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 029 Re: (fax) Gamma thru the ages Re: (fax) Namlook And the list Re: (fax) 10 Year Anniversary "by special invitation" (fax) 10 Year/footnote (fax) I disagree Re: (fax) more 10 year anniv comments (fax) Rash comments (imo) Re: (fax) I disagree (fax) emusic.com Re: (fax) Rash comments (imo) RE: (fax) 10 Year/footnote (fax) Newbies RE: (fax) Newbies Re: (fax) 10 Year/footnote Re: (fax) 10 Year Anniversary "by special invitation" Re: (fax) 10 Year Anniversary by special invitation (fax) Fax CD's wanted (fax) 2nd In command Re: (fax) emusic.com Re: (fax) Rash comments (imo) Re: (fax) Rash comments (imo) (fax) The reported comments of PK (fax) With that other matter off my chest... RE: (fax) emusic.com (fax) emusic.com RE: (fax) Rerelease old stuff! RE: (fax) Rerelease old stuff! Re: (fax) Rash comments (imo) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 05:40:29 -0800 (PST) From: ambient Subject: Re: (fax) Gamma thru the ages - --- Phonaut wrote: an old sublabel musician who apparently > is still busy making tunes. take a look (from > www.bentcrayon.com): > > massimo vivona the way he is actually a super busy artist.. he appears many times on different trance and downtempo compilations the Pulse compilatioons...(novateck) the TranceMasters comps the Tantrance comps... the Planet Goa comps... the list is endless... as each of these comps are up to volumes of 10 or more.... np some nice ambient ,scoUt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 05:48:19 -0800 (PST) From: ambient Subject: Re: (fax) Namlook And the list i think,... the question should have been posed by the the person, around this list, with the most authority concering Namlook; andre - --- "andre@sansserif.com.au" wrote: > > Regarding Mr. Namlook, did he ask what the fans wanted or not? > Seems to me > > at first he said he was interested in what the fans wanted, we > spoke up, and > > now we "can't count on anything" we suggested. So does he > really care or is > > he just jerking us around? Or are we supposed to be > mind-readers? :-) > > > This is what Namlook wrote to Warren: > > P.S.: This summer FAX will have a 10years anniversary.. what would > you think > would be a good CD to release in this connection. Of course I have > my own > ideas .. but from you who devoted a lot of time into FAX it would > be nice to > hear as I would rather follow a demand than release something > useless. > > > > So, technicially speaking, He is just asking Warren! > > > REALISE THIS! this list is independant of Fax, Namlook is not > involved.. > > He does not read the list posts.. none are sent to him.. > occaisonally some > list members communicate with him, as his email address is on the > CDs, but > all the discussions on this list are by list members for list > members.. > > > > > > -- > pixelpanzer.com .. . grafik assault systems for a 72dpi > battlefield . > . . . . http://www.pixelpanzer.com . .. + grafik@pixelpaner.com > . > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 06:01:58 -0800 (PST) From: ambient Subject: Re: (fax) 10 Year Anniversary "by special invitation" - --- Paul Milligan wrote: > Hi folks - following are extracts from a recent exchange > between Peter Kuhlmann and myself - I've picked out only the > relevant bits as PK didn't actually say whether it was okay for > me to post this to the List but, I'm thinking he won't mind !!!!! you definately should have gotten his "OK", before posting his words without his consent, i thinkith :-) > It should help to settle the matter of what we can expect in the > Summer and certainly give everyone here something "special" > to look forward to : isnt this why Peter went through warren in the first place? so that everyone wouldn`t bombard him with emails and suggestions..and then run back to the list and then everyone would post speculation? > > > > Peter.../there has been a great deal of discussion over the > > past few days.../but, ideas need to be commercially realistic > > .../Fax is not just your passion, it's your living too. > > PK : sooo right.. > > > .../I was wondering what you think about a "special" CD release > > including booklet.../say 24 pages.../such as would only increase > > > your cost by a sensible amount. > > PK : has been done in the past on fax and.. is right too.. > > > .../amongst other things, plenty of photographs from the 10 > > years and an essay by your good self. > > PK : yes .. I thought about that.. > > > .../regarding the music & including tracks which have only > > appeared on vinyl.../I suspect this is probably a limited source > > > for you. > > PK : exactly > > > .../what about a 2CD set including *new* music from different > > musicians with whom you have collaborated over recent years > > .../example Laswell, Moufang, Prochir, Spyra, Gensen, Bird. > > PK : Is in the making.. 3 tracks are ready to go.. > > > .../it would be even more exciting if you could also include > > collaboration with artists, from earlier years.../such as Atom, > > Inoue, Hawtin, Sharp ... artists who are still active. > > PK : It is their decision as well and we have to find the time.. > we collaborate anyway from time to time.. so there will be not > a problem with this > > > .../this 2CD set would be "by special invitation".../demand > would > > be in excess of that for a normal release.../assuring artistic & > > > commercial success, whilst fulfilling the wishes of many fans. > > PK : this is what I had in mind and it is the cumulation of > positive > aspects .. it will be released in summer 2002. > > > What do you think Peter? > > PK : thank you, Paul.. this will happen. > yours > Peter final speculation should come from Andre, as "this will happen" is still anything ? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 12:24:38 +0000 From: "Paul Milligan" Subject: (fax) 10 Year/footnote Incidently, I thought a few others might have been excited at the prospect of what PK proposes. Funny how more enthusiasm seem to be generated by several hypothetical yet, unrealistic ideas? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 08:59:37 -0600 From: "Jonathan Osborne" Subject: (fax) I disagree > Finally, i kind of don't like the idea of reissuing old titles. > Not because i care about original editions as opposed to reissues > and all that stuff (sometimes, but they all sound the same right?) > but because it seems to reward newbies only while offering nothing > new to those of us been around for years spending our money > collecting fax titles, listening to and reviewing them, posting > about them, making webpages dedicated to them etc. it's great to > see new folks coming in and getting interested/hooked on Fax, but > i don't think the 10 Year Anni should cater to only them. For the > long term fan, it's hardly 'something special' to get the same CD > with new cover art as this is about new music not new graphics. Well, this is pretty much what stifles what you call "newbies" from hearing the Fax catalog (or any rare music). I completely disagree with the notion of "you snooze, you lose" in music. As with any record label, Fax was likely set up with the idea of making music. I highly doubt Namlook had a master plan of publishing hundreds of CDs at limited quantities to try to force a collector's market. Coming from a smaller city where electronic music was/is basically unheard of, I didn't know about Fax in 1994; does that mean I shouldn't be allowed to hear those albums? For people like me, it's all about the music, not about collecting. Maybe for the 10th anniversary, Namlook should post all the Fax albums on a web site in 192k mp3 format. That way, "newbies" can hear the music, and collectors can go about searching for rare CDs, and everybody's happy :) Jonathan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 07:08:30 -0800 (PST) From: ambient Subject: Re: (fax) more 10 year anniv comments I would even call it "Off Of Press" instead of "Out of Print" concerning Fax. Since, every release has the potential to make it back to the pressing plant once DEMAND calls for it. !!DEMAND for an authorized copy is the essential part of the mix here!! So, technically you are 100% correct Phonaut, FAX titles are never Out of Print. In essense, Fax "NEEDS, NEEDS, NEEDS a time when a title is impossible to find" so that it will find it`s place in the CUE for Reprint. - --- Phonaut wrote: > I hope it's understood that nearly every Fax CD is 'out > of print' the day they are manufactured. It's not like they make > a batch of 300 and then wait and then press up more later. no, > they do it all at once and then they are done and are > effectively Out Of Print although they may not be hard to find > 2 months after release. Some titles go back IN print (in a > matter > of speaking) when reissued on AW. So it really makes no sense to > say a certain Fax CD has now 'gone out of print' cause that's > true > from day one of all Fax CDs except those that get reissued on AW. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 13:47:18 +0000 From: "Paul Milligan" Subject: (fax) Rash comments (imo) Ambient wrote: >i think,... >the question should have been posed by the the person, around >this list, with the most authority concering Namlook; andre With respect to Andre ... IF (and it's a big IF) there is someone who specifically has "the most authority concerning Namlook" on this list, then surely that person is Warren, by nature of the fact that he established the list and has control thereof. Andre will ultimately have to speak for himself but, I suspect he'll agree with me, that being a distributor who also produces artwork for Fax does not bestow a sacred responsibility upon him as Fax's spokesperson. Regarding PK's comments as posted y'day by me, I think you're way off the mark (again) because... 1. I don't "bombard" PK with emails, although I note that you emailed him a week or two back. 2. There is no "speculation" as you phrase it. Peter has stated he is already working on several collaboration pieces ("3 tracks are ready to go") and I also think that his remark "this will happen" is a pretty clear statement of intent. Don't you? 3. You've also said that "final speculation" should come from Andre (with whom incidently I have previously communicated, in private, on the subject of PK's response) but, you've just argued against speculating. Get consistent! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 10:34:26 -0600 (CST) From: Phonaut Subject: Re: (fax) I disagree > I completely disagree with the notion of "you snooze, you lose" in music. Well, sadly, it's the reality with most labels, Fax or otherwise. When a label owner perceives the need for a reissue, they reissue it, not when a few fans decide it's time. Namlook's already reissued LOTS of old classics reissued on AW: Transonic, Dreamfish 1&2, Hemisphere, Ambiant Otaku, Shades of Orion, Silence, Sultan, 2350, DSM's, 4Voice, the list goes on. Not to mention the dozens of reissues that happened on other labels: Air 1&2 (reissued twice), Sad World 1&2, Alien Community 1&2, Silence 1&2 (reissued twice), the *Ambient Cookbook* (reissued twice)... there are plenty more i haven't mentioned. What more do you want? In effect, Namlook is *already* doing what you ask ("reissue old stuff on CD!") at his own pace, and i think just doing that again in the name of some kind of 10th Year Celebration would be a let down and 'nothing new'. I dunno, i have complete faith that regardless of what we say here on this list, Namlook will *not* repeat a business mistake he's made in the past, and that is reissuing old titles that *appear* to be in big demand because of a handful of people on an email list make a stink... Ultimately, like someone stated before, whatever Namlook decides to do for 10YearFax will probably have to satisfy the 'business' end of things. I would also add that it shouldn't just satisfy one 'camp' of Faxheads (newbies, veterans, etc) but should be fun for all of us. Correct me if i'm wrong, but so far Cookbook2 is the only suggestion that satisfies all parties and is realistic. It could have new music on it *and* old music, and some cool multimedia aspects that would not cost huge amounts of money to implement. I also think it's a realistic suggestion, as Fax has put out a 4CD Cookbook in the past, and considering that several of Namlook's recent collaborators have already done such things as extra multimedia features on their albums, Namlook already has resources to draw from to make it happen. > As with any record label, Fax was likely set up with the idea of making > music. I highly doubt Namlook had a master plan of publishing hundreds of > CDs at limited quantities to try to force a collector's market. Coming from his original plan and reason for doing limited editions, as Namlook states on http://music.hyperreal.org/labels/fax/information.html is: "We did 500 only because we were still interested in getting a licensing deal with bigger labels" He wanted only to release the first editions himself, and let the 'big guys' to pick up certain titles for reissue later, and this has happened plenty of times. A recent example?: Just take a look at the reissuing of the ENTIRE From Within seris on Hawtin's M-nus label. > a smaller city where electronic music was/is basically unheard of, I didn't > know about Fax in 1994; does that mean I shouldn't be allowed to hear those > albums? > For people like me, it's all about the music, not about collecting. Maybe me too, as i stated in my previous email. Occasionally it's fun to find the original editions, but they all sound identical (except Silence II) so it shouldn't really matter when it comes down to the sounds. > Well, this is pretty much what stifles what you call "newbies" from hearing > the Fax catalog (or any rare music). not really, just drop by emusic.com and listen to pretty much any Fax title you want right? > for the 10th anniversary, Namlook should post all the Fax albums on a web > site in 192k mp3 format. That way, "newbies" can hear the music, and > collectors can go about searching for rare CDs, and everybody's happy :) Well, yeah but again long-time fans don't see anything new here, and neither do newbies, really. As most of it is already posted in mp3 format at emusic.com. A slight upgrade in mp3 quality (emusic's 128 to your suggested 192), what kind of 10 Year celebration is that? n/p np- Vir Unis & James Johnson "Perimeter" (i would think Fax fans would totally dig this one, nice 2CD set of pulse-drift) . . . . . . ..... . . . . . . Official Tetsu Inoue Homepage, RadioShow Playlists, and Trades @: http://ww1.math.luc.edu/~njurcin or http://phonaut.cjb.net/ (chat) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 16:42:57 -0000 From: "Pamplemousse" Subject: (fax) emusic.com Hi, I'm new on this list, actually I've been lurking for a couple of weeks :) Anyway, I've not seen any talk of the Fax releases on emusic.com. From what I can see there's a lot of the back catalogue on there and it's Fax that have put them on there. I just thought I'd mention this in case people didn't know about it. If you all do know about it then apologies for posting something so boring! Gareth Pamplemousse http://mp3.com/pamplemousse ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 12:36:38 -0500 (EST) From: Warren Lapham Subject: Re: (fax) Rash comments (imo) On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Paul Milligan wrote: > With respect to Andre ... IF (and it's a big IF) there is someone who > specifically has "the most authority concerning Namlook" on this > list, then surely that person is Warren, by nature of the fact > that he established the list and has control thereof. Andre will > ultimately have to speak for himself but, I suspect he'll agree > with me, that being a distributor who also produces artwork for > Fax does not bestow a sacred responsibility upon him as Fax's > spokesperson. Well, I'd venture that Andre communicates with Namlook more than I do; I've only had two or three extended conversations with Namlook, ever...surely the graphic designer talks to him more, right? :) (I'd hope so, anyway.) Even the move of the faxlabel.com listening page into 2350 was done completely through Andre. I'm just a sorry trainspotter who had an idea for a website and far too much spare time (and a skilled graphic-designer friend who is also a trainspotter, tho not nearly as sorry.) And while I am the "authority" on the list simply by the nature of being the administrator, I like to think I take a very laissez-faire attitude as far as that goes. This list is pretty well-behaved compared to another one that I administer...and even then I'm pretty hands-off. For the record, though, I didn't establish the list; I merely offered to take it off the hands of the previous listadmin and move it to 2350.org, where it could have its own Fax-related domain. Not that any of this really matters.... - -w. - -- Warren Lapham. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 13:07:32 -0500 From: "Conlon, Timothy J" Subject: RE: (fax) 10 Year/footnote I don't recall the initial question saying, "what would you like to see = for the FAX 10th anniversary....under $20". =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Milligan [SMTP:paulmilligan@btconnect.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 7:25 AM > To: faxlist@2350.org > Subject: (fax) 10 Year/footnote >=20 > Incidently, I thought a few others might have been excited > at the prospect of what PK proposes. Funny how more > enthusiasm seem to be generated by several hypothetical > yet, unrealistic ideas?=20 > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: = > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 17:17:16 +0000 From: "Paul Milligan" Subject: (fax) Newbies >Well, this is pretty much what stifles what you call "newbies" from hearing >the Fax catalog (or any rare music). What constitutes a newbie?...you'd have to draw a line in the sand and say "if you're on that side you're a newbie and if you're on the other then you're not". It's not possible is it? Anyway it doesn't matter. There's still stacks of releases from the mid 90's which are available (go to cue-records.de and see) never mind that most of those from the late 90's are on the shelves too. Many of the really older titles have been re-released on AW and there's still plenty of comps like 4 Seasons and the Instinct doubles knocking about. Hell, there's only a handful that can't be dug up from somewhere - I paid 800 DM for 8 rare ones from Cue eighteen months ago and three have been re-released since! My most sincere recommendation to any 'newbie' is visit Cue, note say a dozen mid 90's titles still in stock, particularly Sub Label (eg. Reeves stuff, Modula Green, Aerial Service Area, etc) get back on 2350, read the reviews and choose 4/5 that appeal most and get your order in! (Hey, you could even check out my Personal Rating Guide for further pointers!!!) ...and if you don't like some of them, do what I did, trade 'em. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 13:17:10 -0500 From: "Maximilien Lincourt" Subject: RE: (fax) Newbies > > What constitutes a newbie?...you'd have to draw a line in the sand and say > "if you're on that side you're a newbie and if you're on the other then > you're not". It's not possible is it? > a newby is simply someone who's starting to look into the fax catalog and culture and doesn't know much about it! Once she listened to a few tracks and made her mind about it, she's not a newby anymore, she'll be either a casual listener, a completist or something between the 2 extremes. I was an "Elektrolux newby" until I listened to a few tracks, and now, I'm not! because I think I know what the label is about! Max. - --- Maximilien Lincourt Max At Toon Boom Dot Com Codito Ergo Sum ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 19:05:52 +0000 From: "Paul Milligan" Subject: Re: (fax) 10 Year/footnote >I don't recall the initial question saying, "what would you >like to see for the FAX 10th anniversary....under $20". I don't recall it being "...anything goes, money no object" either. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 17:02:16 -0500 From: muziknut2@juno.com Subject: Re: (fax) 10 Year Anniversary "by special invitation" I think a particularly interesting idea for the 10th anniversary would be to have match-ups of someone who has recorded for Fax with a "traditional" ambient artist, and then release these tracks ONLY for this collection. Such examples might be the following: Bill Laswell/David Parsons Jochem Paap/Robert Rich Victor Sol/Lightwave Dr. Atmo/O Yuki Conjugate You get the idea.... What do you think? Peace. ------------------------------ Date: 07 Feb 2002 17:04:59 -0500 From: Ian Wedegartner Subject: Re: (fax) 10 Year Anniversary by special invitation Atom Heart/Cluster?? MixMasterMorris/Kim Cascone?? >collection. Such examples might be the following: > >Bill Laswell/David Parsons >Jochem Paap/Robert Rich >Victor Sol/Lightwave >Dr. Atmo/O Yuki Conjugate > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 22:15:49 -0000 From: "David Calvert" Subject: (fax) Fax CD's wanted I'm looking for the following Fax CD's to finish my collection ... Fax label (PK series) - --------------------- Compilation 1 (PK08/01) Silence (PK08/25) Air (PK08/54) Silence II (PK08/68) Live at XS (PK08/78) 4 Voice (PK08/79) Namlook II (PK08/84) Fax label (PW series) - ---------------------- Dreamfish (PW02) From Within (PW11) I have plenty of titles (including Fax and RI/Atom Heart CDs and vinyl) for trade on my web pages at http://home.hiway.co.uk/boo. Would be really grateful if anyone could help me out but please, I am not interested in the Ambient World, Instinct or other repressings. Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 10:16:59 +1100 From: "andre@sansserif.com.au" Subject: (fax) 2nd In command Well its good to know ive got some virtual Authority on this list... By the Way, Namlook has authorised me to collect everyones copies of Outer Dark, Organic Cloud and 2350 Broadway to be redistributed so please post them to my address below.. :-P Regarding the new guys comments on emusic.com i think most of us are well versed with emusic but being the purists that we are, we're not satisfied with the quality of emusics mp3 being at 128kbs.. ** 256K all the way ** andre. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 20:48:26 -0800 (PST) From: ambient Subject: Re: (fax) emusic.com Hi Gareth, Yes, it is a great place to listen to the back catalog in the meantime, as many of those titles will be reissued. MOST IMPORTANTLY, It`s also a place where Fax artists are *PAID* for these older titles. (although, it is only pennies per track, yet it would add up and support FAX) It would seem that this is also the best place where Namlook can gauge which titles are the Best Candidate for Re-issue, since emusic.com subscribers are a lot of folks who are actually paying for music...and this statistically speaking, this would be the best measure for which titles to re-press. ,scoUt - --- Pamplemousse wrote: > Hi, > > I'm new on this list, actually I've been lurking for a couple of > weeks :) > > Anyway, I've not seen any talk of the Fax releases on emusic.com. > From what > I can see there's a lot of the back catalogue on there and it's > Fax that > have put them on there. > > I just thought I'd mention this in case people didn't know about > it. If you > all do know about it then apologies for posting something so > boring! > > Gareth > Pamplemousse > http://mp3.com/pamplemousse > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 20:57:34 -0800 (PST) From: ambient Subject: Re: (fax) Rash comments (imo) - --- Paul Milligan wrote: > Fax does not bestow a sacred responsibility upon him as Fax's > spokesperson. i did say "most" authority to speak for FAX amongst all of us.. "most authority" doesn`t translate to "sacred responsibility" in my dictionary ??? > > Regarding PK's comments as posted y'day by me, I think you're > way off the mark (again) because... > > 1. I don't "bombard" PK with emails, although I note that you > emailed him a week or two back. i`ve sent an occasionally email to Mr. Kulhmann, i have NEVER posted any of his words with his permission. None of my comments have had anything to do with the "10-year Anniversary Idea" which was from what i could tell, to be done onlist, instead of fans running back and forth to him with the latest scoop. > > 2. There is no "speculation" as you phrase it. Peter has stated > he is already working on several collaboration pieces ("3 tracks > are ready to go") and I also think that his remark "this will > happen" > is a pretty clear statement of intent. Don't you? not really, depends on which word you stress and where the inotation is in the phrase...Since Namlook said so little in his response to you...i took that as just a kind way to say that something will happen? > > 3. You've also said that "final speculation" should come from > Andre (with whom incidently I have previously communicated, in > private, on the subject of PK's response) but, you've just argued > against speculating. Get consistent! That`s speculation from a list member. Coming from andre it is hardly speculation...should i doubt it when andre passed word that Psych 5 or Amp 3 is on it`s way, no. Is it still speculation, sure...but, maybe only 1-5%. It is relative. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 21:17:16 -0800 From: "sanvara" Subject: Re: (fax) Rash comments (imo) I don't know why this has turned into such a controversal issue. It's pretty ridiculous. Who cares if people e-mail Peter. Isn't that why he puts his e-mail address on every CD? I'm sure he welcomes e-mails from anyone and everyone. If he doesn't want to deal with e-mails he wouldn't solicit them. If I was running a label like Fax I'd want to know what people think. I also don't see any harm in posting information about what might be in the pipeline. If he doesn't want the information to be available to people he wouldn't give the information via e-mail to people he doesn't know, or at the very least he'd say "don't spread this around" if he doesn't want the info disseminated. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 08:59:31 +0000 From: "Paul Milligan" Subject: (fax) The reported comments of PK Sanvara wrote: >Who cares if people e-mail Peter. I'm sure he welcomes e-mails from >anyone and everyone. I agree and have found this to be the case, recently and in the past. >If he doesn't want the information to be available to people he >wouldn't give the information via e-mail to people he doesn't know. Again, I agree. In this respect seeking his 'permission' to repeat stuff on the List is a courtesy rather than a necessity. Frankly it irritated me yesterday when (with nothing other than good intent) I posted to this List with the news that we could look forward to seeing a 'special' compilation of new music from PK and various high-profile collaborators this summer ... I mean, isn't this the sort of thing we want to hear about!!! ... only to be derided in what I consider a petty-minded way over whether this was in fact speculative etc etc etc. Paul Incidently, the comment, about "running back and forth" to PK with "the latest scoop" is basically (mildly offensive) bollocks. Subject now closed. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 09:13:18 +0000 From: "Paul Milligan" Subject: (fax) With that other matter off my chest... ... I'm considering putting an order into Cue later today (mainly Schulze stuff) but maybe a couple more Fax titles and was wondering: I see Silence 5 polled well (2nd after Wired) in the best releases of last year on Fax Galleria. Frankly, I was very disappointed by 4 after the excellent 3 - so I'm wondering whether it's worth taking this one. Views? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 09:59:37 -0000 From: "Pamplemousse" Subject: RE: (fax) emusic.com Hi, > Yes, it is a great place to listen to the back catalog in the > meantime, as many of those titles will be reissued. I didn't realise there was going to be some re-issuing? Does anybody have any details on this? As I said I've only been on this list a short while. > MOST IMPORTANTLY, It`s also a place where Fax artists are *PAID* for > these older titles. (although, it is only pennies per track, yet it > would add up and support FAX) That's exactly right which is why I joined there to get the tracks. I originally joined just to get Dreamfish as my old vinyl copy is a bit worse for wear these days but then discovered that there were a lot of the Fax albums on there (and some other great electronic stuff as well fyi). I've only got about 6 or 7 "proper" Fax albums so it's given me the chance to listen to the rest. If they're going to be re-issued though I will definitely buy them. > It would seem that this is also the best place where Namlook can > gauge which titles are the Best Candidate for Re-issue, since > emusic.com subscribers are a lot of folks who are actually paying > for music...and this statistically speaking, this would be the best > measure for which titles to re-press. That's a really interesting point - makes an awful lot of sense. Thanks for replying Gareth Pamplemousse http://mp3.com/pamplemousse ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 21:15:07 +1100 From: "andre@sansserif.com.au" Subject: (fax) emusic.com In Theory, All Fax material has the chance of being reissued on the Ambient World Label.. in theory.. As for Emusic.com and namlook, im not so sure the deal he has with them is for $$ per download.. i think it may be a straight out rights deal. but im not sure. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 11:22:59 +0100 (MET) From: ghendershot@gmx.de Subject: RE: (fax) Rerelease old stuff! > > ...at most a pressing of 100/200 CD's per title would be > enough for hard-core collectors and completists! - ----------------------------------------------------------- If there will ever be a Fluorescent Multilayer Disc for audio, once that technology finally makes it out the door as a viable commercial product, then Namlook could put the whole friggin' FAX calatogue + unreleased tracks in 24-bit / 96 KHz quality audio along with "The Putney" video all on one disc and sell it for US$99.95 or so. ============================================== > > BTW, does FAX really sell 2000 CD's of the newer release ? - ----------------------------------------------------------- Slowly but shirley. And don't call me shirley again. - -- C:\Gary H@> http://www.gary-hendershot.com/ ghenders@gary-hendershot.com ghendershot@gmx.de (junk mail) Houston, TX USA GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 11:22:59 +0100 (MET) From: ghendershot@gmx.de Subject: RE: (fax) Rerelease old stuff! > > ...at most a pressing of 100/200 CD's per title would be > enough for hard-core collectors and completists! - ----------------------------------------------------------- If there will ever be a Fluorescent Multilayer Disc for audio, once that technology finally makes it out the door as a viable commercial product, then Namlook could put the whole friggin' FAX calatogue + unreleased tracks in 24-bit / 96 KHz quality audio along with "The Putney" video all on one disc and sell it for US$99.95 or so. ============================================== > > BTW, does FAX really sell 2000 CD's of the newer release ? - ----------------------------------------------------------- Slowly but shirley. And don't call me shirley again. - -- C:\Gary H@> http://www.gary-hendershot.com/ ghenders@gary-hendershot.com ghendershot@gmx.de (junk mail) Houston, TX USA GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 07:52:04 -0500 From: "Stephen Philips" Subject: Re: (fax) Rash comments (imo) > I don't know why this has turned into such a controversal issue. It's pretty > ridiculous. Who cares if people e-mail Peter. Isn't that why he puts his > e-mail address on every CD? I'm sure he welcomes e-mails from anyone and > everyone. If he doesn't want to deal with e-mails he wouldn't solicit them. No, you don't realize, Pete Namlook is God and us low mortals must go through the high priests, Warren, Stewart, or Andre to speak to Lord Namlook. We are not allowed to speak to him directly. Disregard that email address on every CD :-) Stephen Philips Dark Duck Records e | music@darkduck.net web | http://www.darkduck.net ------------------------------ End of faxlist-digest V2002 #29 ******************************* --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org