From: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org (faxlist-digest) To: faxlist-digest@monkey.org Subject: faxlist-digest V2002 #31 Reply-To: faxlist@2350.org Sender: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Errors-To: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Precedence: bulk faxlist-digest Monday, February 11 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 031 Re: (fax) Rerelease old stuff! Re: (fax) omnifax (fax) Elektrolux recommendations (fax) Namlook Factoid in FM (fax) Namlook gear (fax) Distibution and e.music Re: (fax) Namlook Gear & Move D/Namlook VI - Live in Heidelberg 2001 - PK 08/160 (fax) The Concert :-) Re: (fax) The Concert :-) Re: (fax) live at interference Re: (fax) The Concert :-) (fax) Miles Apart ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 10:50:37 +0100 (MET) From: ghendershot@gmx.de Subject: Re: (fax) Rerelease old stuff! > Sounds good to me... mmmmh > > All fax on a disc... but, is it worth buying a new player just for that. > - --------------------------------------------------------------- Yes, you would definitely need a new player, but one that will also likely be able to read CD-ROM and DVD as well. Fluorescent Multi-Layer Disc technology (also called holographic storage technology by many) will first be used for computer data storage, but the HDTV people are quite keen on using it since current DVD technology is in no way capable of holding an entire single movie in HDTV. Once this new medium finally makes its appearance, it will hold somewhere between 20 GB and 200 GB per disc. As time goes by, new discs with more layers will be made available. Storage capacity should rise to a Terabyte (1000+ GB) or more after about 5-to-7 years. Dust and fingerprints on these discs will be much less of a problem than with current Compact Disc technology, because the holographic disc reader sees a complex blurry 3-D image as it reads the disc as opposed to the well-focused pits that a compact disc reader sees. A spec of dust laying on the surface of a holographic disc will simply be out of focus and not affect the data being read. These discs also don't need to spin fast to attain high data rates. The complex holographic image frames the reader sees gets converted into binary data -- and lots of it, fast. The data read rates being touted at the moment are something like 40 MB/s or more sustained transfer rate and go up from there as disc layers are added. So, we're talking hard-drive-like performance when it comes to streaming data rates. There is also a tape version of this technology that will be released at about the same time as the disc, simply called "optical tape." These 8mm-like optical tape cartridges will probably start off with *only* 1 Terabyte of storage capacity. Both media are WORM (Write Once Read Many). There are even card-like versions of the technology in the works, where the card stays still as a moving head reads the surface. These credit-card-sized holographic cards will probably start off with 10 GB of storage capacity. There are several companies racing towards the finish line to deliver this King Of All Disc Storage Technologies. The disc readers aren't that much of a challenge at this juncture. The hold back at this point is manufacturing the media at a high enough rate to satisfy demand and at an economical price point. Here's just one of many companies trying to get to the wire first: http://www.constellation3d.com/product_frameset.html ================================================= ================================================= > > > > > > ...at most a pressing of 100/200 CD's per title would be > > > enough for hard-core collectors and completists! > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > > > If there will ever be a Fluorescent Multilayer Disc for audio, > > once that technology finally makes it out the door as a viable > > commercial product, then Namlook could put the whole > > friggin' FAX calatogue + unreleased tracks in 24-bit / 96 KHz > > quality audio along with "The Putney" video all on one disc > > and sell it for US$99.95 or so. > > > > - -- C:\Gary H@> http://www.gary-hendershot.com/ ghenders@gary-hendershot.com ghendershot@gmx.de (junk mail) Houston, TX USA GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 11:42:19 +0100 (MET) From: ghendershot@gmx.de Subject: Re: (fax) omnifax > > im currently looking for the largest portable Firewire harddisk to store > all my Fax music in 256K mp3.. > > DVD-R media @ 4.7 GIG just doesnt cut it for the omnipotent solution.. > ======================================================== With a bit of tinkering, you can build your own External FireWire (IEEE-1394) hard drive for Macintosh or Windows systems with a FireWire port. Just install a high-capacity ATA hard drive of your choice to the enclosure. The FireWire-to-ATA bridge inside the external enclosure will interface the hard drive to your computer's FireWire port. Here is one such external FireWire enclosure: http://www.granitedigital.com/catalog/pg23_firewireidecasekits.htm - -- C:\Gary H@> http://www.gary-hendershot.com/ ghenders@gary-hendershot.com ghendershot@gmx.de (junk mail) Houston, TX USA GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 17:31:55 -0800 (PST) From: Hyp Nom Subject: (fax) Elektrolux recommendations my favourite Elektrolux releases (I checked out almost every release of this label so far): Ambient Diary Two (not One) Subtonal/Dark Distortions Ruxpin/Midnight Drive Autopilot/The Voice Inside Soehngenetic/Dieneuser Soehngenetic/Second Hand Supreme Particles/Light as Skin George Pallikaris/Silk Drön/Parsec Cold/Strobe Light Network (incl. Sven Väth Rmx) Azure Taint/Funky Elements Aural Float/Introspectives (not the second album) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 20:42:33 -0800 From: Anthony Ballo Subject: (fax) Namlook Factoid in FM Just browsing through an old issue of Future Music (FM) from 04/2001 and the SCI Prophet series was featured in the 'Retro' section and mentioned that Peter used a T8 (http://www.vintagesynth.org/sci/t8.shtml) on 'the classic trance track Prophet under the pseudonym Sequential'. Anyway, from some of the recent liner notes on his releases, I wonder how he feels about hardware synths now - especially when he can load up an arsenal of software synths, sampler & effects and on his laptop? He seems to have embraced newer technology plus, it's a whole lot easier to travel with. But, does he prefer this approach in his studio as well? A friend of mine recently compared the Pro-52 plugin to his Prophet 5 and said it was 95% true to the sounds. - - Anthony (please cut from any replies to the list) Btw, I'm just upgrading my Mac myself from a 8100/110 to a G3 300, beige tower (previously owned by a friend of mine who just got the new dual 1gHz G4 *drool*) and he's hooking me up with the following: Sequencer Software of Choice: CUBASE VST/32 v.5.1 (also DP 3.x) Virtual Synths (VST Instruments): NI Pro-52 (the Glorious Profit 5!) Waldorf PPG-Wave (ahh... The sound of the 80's!) NI FM7 (amazing diversity of FM Synthesis) Steinberg Model E (modeled after the MiniMoog Model D!) NI Absynth (very kool evolving textures, unique sound) NI Battery (IMHO the best drum machine ever!!!) Steinberg Halion (my K2000 sampler in software!) Propellerheads REASON (a whole rack of goodies itself!) Virtual Effects: All the goods built into Cubase (flanger, distortion, delays, reverbs, EQ's, ring modulators, etc. Good stuff!) Waves Gold Bundle (my favorites... The Ultramaximizer, the Spacial Enhancer, Renaissance Reverb, Compressors, etc.) Orange Vocoder (man... I am in robotic heaven!) The 8100/110 will be for sale soon and has 128 megs of RAM, Radius second monitor card and a Audiomedia II audio card. If anyone's interested, contact me privately. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 16:10:56 +1100 From: "andre@sansserif.com.au" Subject: (fax) Namlook gear i recently mailed Namlook about such topics after having recently assisted a friend of mine with a live musical show remeniscent of the Namlook I-XIII series... (in terms of equipment used, not musical quality unfortunatly!) We ripped apart the bedroom studio and dragged various synths & gear to a club for an 'ambient' set and i commented to my friend on how i personally prefer the smaller live setup.. like that of say, Jochem Paap.. You can see in the inside cover of Live in Heidelberg the tools used by both Pete and David Moufang.. Namlook currently seems very impressed with 'Live' the software by Abelton http://www.ableton.com/ and says he will be using that in the future.. As for Namlook and synths.. it my personal opinion that he is the biggest synth junkie the world has seen.. his personal aresenal of analogue & digtial synths is massive.. and he always seems to have the latest toys... like the nord lead 3 used in the heidelberg show.. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 21:40:32 -0800 (PST) From: ambient Subject: (fax) Distibution and e.music people are so well versed with styles of language, that they can be selfish and egotist without offending anyone directly and get away with it much more easily than someone who just says it like it is. like how my and Phonaut`s posts and explaining of "how namlook would prefer you get his music" - was carefully turned into the two of us being FASCIST and wanting to keep our COMPLETE fax catalog exclusive!! Amazing that telling people to PAY and Support FAX and Namlook was spun into a personal attack to make us look selfish. Integrity. ...FAX Fellows, that is all i care about on this list, i care not how many people have Namlook discs, just as long as it is legitimate and done in the manner and timeline that Namlook decides upon, period. np Bob Marley - could you be loved? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 21:56:59 -0800 (PST) From: ambient Subject: Re: (fax) Namlook Gear & Move D/Namlook VI - Live in Heidelberg 2001 - PK 08/160 - --- "andre@sansserif.com.au" wrote: > > You can see in the inside cover of Live in Heidelberg the tools > used by both > Pete and David Moufang.. and whatever they did, it worked! Live in Heidelberg is wonderful! Just played it for the first time the last night. i remember someone lately on the list saying that they liked Namlook`s guitar style alot... There is some beautiful guitar chords chilling this disc-out! That isn`t all though, it`s a great release. This is a collaboration peaks ABOVE a few other of their recents meetings; The Audiolounge and The Retro Rocket ,scoUt Move D/Namlook VI - Live in Heidelberg 2001 - PK 08/160 Release Date: 19 November 2001 Limitation: 2000 all tracks written by Pete Namlook and David Moufang __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 23:39:31 -0800 (PST) From: ambient Subject: (fax) The Concert :-) I`ll pass along this wonderful information. Manikin´s 10th anniversary concert - Live for 36 hours! (Spyra Opens) If anyone, in or around Germany, is planning to go, please email me. I would like to send you money to pick up the 2XCD that will be available there. I`ve been planning to go to this for several weeks and i am still trying to make it happen. There is chance i might attend. Joachim, did you decide if you were going to go? Does anyone think they might attend? The Concert: Friday, April, 5th 2002 9pm - Spyra 11pm - Broekhuis, Keller & Schoenwaelder Saturday, April, 6th 2002 1am - Air Sculpture 3am - Tom van Draft 5am - Electric Orange 7am - Rainbow Serpent 9am - Broekhuis & Keller 11am - Arcanum vs Otarion 1pm - Der Laborant vs Mario Schoenwaelder 3pm - Mind~Flux 5pm - Air Sculpture 7pm - Fanger & Schoenwaelder 9pm - Rainbow Serpent 11pm - Electric Orange Sunday, April, 7th 2002 1am - Spyra vs Chris Lang 3am - Keller & Schoenwaelder 5am - Arcanum, Broekhuis & Otarion 7am - Frank Specht 8:30am The Manikin-Marathon-Liquid-Orchestra featuring the 36-minutes-finale! Manikin´s 10th anniversary concert - Live for 36 hours! Bad Sulza, Thoscana-Therme The electronic-music-around-the-clock-event presented by Manikin Records General: "It´s Manikin Records´ 10th anniversary, and because of our birthday, we´ll celebrate this event with a concert at the Toscana Therme. Our guests are the masters of the electronic sounds and they will be on stage for (incredible) 36 hours, from Friday evening ´til Sunday morning! You´ll see (and hear) a timeless concert-marathon. The performing musicians will bring you into the mood of night and day (and night, again). This shall be a feast for your ears, your body and soul. Every fan of electronic music can - underwater - chill out to these rhythms, dreams and waves of time. Your big advantage this time: Nobody has to go, if it gets late, the music will continue. (Liquid Sound)" Everyone of you, who does not want to stay in the water for 36 hours, can also listen to our sounds, sitting on one the deck-chairs. There will also be a room, outside of the very warm therme, where you can listen to the music, while wearing your street-clothes. Also, there will be a snack-bar, open 24 hours, where you can get delicious cold and hot snacks and drinks. The hotels are directly at the therme (for further information please see special prices below). This will be the first event of its kind! Please, come and get to the weirdest electronic-concert, you´ll ever see! Admission/Hotel-rooms: The special priced "festival ticket" costs only 32 Euros. With this ticket you can stay at the therme for the entire concert-marathon of 36 hours (featuring 19 concerts!). Of course you can leave the theme for a break and return later. You can order this special ticket now at Manikin Records (Tel/Fax: +40-30- 7121540, e-mail: info@manikin.de). The regular admission-fees for the concert are according to the regular therme entrance fees, i.e: 10 Euros for 2 hrs.; 13 Euros for 4 hrs. You can also buy a daily ticket (in German: Tageskarte). For the admission fee of 16 Euros, you can visit the therme (from the moment you´ve buyed this ticket) ´til midnight! But with this kind of ticket, you can´t leave the therme between the concerts, i.e. when you leave the theme you have to buy a new ticket. So, we really think our festival ticket is the best and flexible choice for you. Until February, 28th 2002 you can send your reservation of your hotel room(s) to Manikin Records. These are the special festival rates: Double room (including breakfast and 2 hours of bathing/concert at the Toscana-Therme): 70 Euro/ per day. Single room (including breakfast and 2 hours of bathing/concert at the Toscana-Therme): 44 Euros/ per day. After Feb. 28th you have to make your reservations directly at Bad Sulza (Hotel an der Therme; Wunderwaldstraße 2; 99518 Bad Sulza, Germany; phone: +49-36461-92881; Fax: +49-36461-92885; internet: www.hotel-an-der-therme.de; e-mail: hoteltherm@aol.com ). All subject to change. Driving by car: You can drive your car on the BAB 4 (exit Apolda/Bad Sulza, B87 to Bad Käsen/Bad Sulza); if your coming from the north, you should drive on the BAB 9 ´til exit Naumburg, then B 180 to Naumburg. From there, you must take the B87 to Bad Käsen/ Bad Sulza. If you´re coming from southern directions: You ´ve got the possibility to drive on the exit Bad Klosterlausitz. From there, you can drive on smaller highways through Bad Camburg to Bad Sulza. My recommendation to you: Use the better and clearly arranged route through the exit Naumburg. Using the train: If you´re using the train from Fulda /Frankurt am Main, you must be changing the trains in Erfurt ("InterCity"-trains each hour) or in Apolda ("InterRegio"trains each hour). If you´re coming from Munich ("InterCity"- & "InterRegio"-trains each hour), you must be changing the trains in Naumburg or in Großheringen. Naumburg and/or Großheringen will be also your changing-stations, if your coming by train from Berlin/Halle/Leipzig/Dresden ("InterRegio"-trains every two hours). From all these changing-stations, there will be trains to Bad Sulza (every hour). At our Festival, there will be avaible for the first time anywhere, our 10th anniversary-deluxe-2 CD-set "Manikin Records - First Decade 1992 - 2002". This collectors-item will be limited to only 777 pieces, and will contain only unpublished tracks by the following artists (in alphabetic order): Arcanum vs. Otarion, Electric Orange, Fanger & Kersten, Fanger & Schönwälder feat. Lutz Ulbrich, Harald Grosskopf (from 1976!), Steve Hug, Keller & Schönwälder feat. Broekhuis, Hardy Kukuk, Nightcrawlers, Rainbow Serpent, Ramp, Klaus Schulze, Spyra and Rolf Trostel. This edition will be avaible for 25 Euros (+ postage). Order now to get you numbered 2 CD-set! With kind regards, Mario Schönwälder __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 23:53:03 -0800 (PST) From: John Whitney Subject: Re: (fax) The Concert :-) - --- ambient wrote: > Manikin Hey! I'm not going to the concert, but can you recommend some other artists on this label (aside from Spyra) that you enjoy? Thanks much & good luck on your quest! John Whitney __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 23:54:46 -0800 (PST) From: ambient Subject: Re: (fax) live at interference - --- "andre@sansserif.com.au" wrote: > i was reading a book recently about techno graphics and it > had info on the interference festival.. > > it showed Richie Hawtin + Namlook + Deep Space Network + Air Liquide who all played at the gig.. > Sounds like a cool book...What`s it`s name? does it cover artwork for vinyl and CD`s or primarily flyers? I have plenty of flyers from most of the raves i have been to, yet a book going into artwork concerning releases would be nice.. BTW, Interference either has a label or they are somehow affiliatied with one...i sometimes have discs with an interference logo on the back. i dont have them next to me, otherwise i would supply the info? Oh, do i wish that i went to Interference in `94 and `95!! PLUR __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 01:02:03 -0800 (PST) From: ambient Subject: Re: (fax) The Concert :-) Others..hmmm...I want to go to the show mostly for Wolfram der Spyra, to visit Germany and to go to a festival, yet since i would be coming from another country, i do have additional faith in Mario. Besides all of the Spyra releases, I have the 2nd SpaceTranceTronicsNight from 11th November 2000, which has tracks from Fanger & Kersten, Spyra and Project.Inter.com. (all nice) and the mp3s on the main page are all a nice slice. http://www.manikin.de/ i say, start with the first track on the main page; "Come and taste the Band Part One" (Braun, Broekhuis, Keller & Schönwälder) - - that should convince you, really!! Also, realize something...the current catalog isnt huge> there were other artists..but, the releases are oop. ARCANUM ASHRA BALTES, GROSSKOPF, HEILHECKER VIERMALDREI BRAUN, BROEKHUIS, KELLER & SCHÖNWÄLDER PROJECT-INTER.COM BROEKHUIS, KELLER & SCHÖNWÄLDER FANGER & KERSTEN SCRIPT FANGER & SCHÖNWÄLDER KELLER, DETLEF KELLER & SCHÖNWÄLDER MIND-FLUX RAINBOW SERPENT PULSE SCHÖNWÄLDER, MARIO SCHULZE, KLAUS SPYRA ULBRICH, LUTZ this is the "about Manikin" part from Mario from the site; Manikin Records (which in German means "Männchen") was founded in April 1992 by Mario Schönwälder. The first idea was to release and distribute the own music and "some" releases from friends with a little independent label. The name is simple to explain. I sit in my "home" office and paint some "manikins" on the paper during a phone call. My little daughter comes and says (in German ;-): "Hey daddy, what a beautiful Manikin!". The philosophy is simple too. Every CD which is released on Manikin Records is "my own music". It´s a little bit of myself. First friends, which release CDs on Manikin are Dirk Jan Müller´s ELECTRIC ORANGE and Hardy Kukuk . In 1995 I got the great chance to release the first CDs from Klaus Schulze. From this time Manikin grows and grows. I cannot say which release was the best one or which is the highlight. Every release has something special. Thanks to Lennart for his good work as my webmaster during the last years. A special thanks and love to Gina, Andreja and Verena. Without your patience and love this all could not take place. I will continue the work with Manikin Records and the distribution for Klaus Schulze's Rainhorse, but please remember: I´m a one-man-company (sometimes with friendly help from some friends). So please allow us sometimes a little delay for our answer. Thanks a lot for your patience... Watch out for our next release/ideas! Mario Schönwälder - --- John wrote: > Thanks much & good luck on your quest! thanks :-) It might happen. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 23:51:42 -0000 From: "David Calvert" Subject: (fax) Miles Apart Every now and then when I can't decide what Fax I want to play I start with a random title and then play them consecutively until I want something different. Anyway, to cut a long story short this particular journey started at Silence III and I am now listening to Miles Apart. Firstly, I really don't remember EVER having played this CD before and I must admit I really like it (particularly '10 006'). I'm sure I must have played it but perhaps it did nothing for me at the time. Secondly Peter Prochir does not get credited at the bottom of the orange circle on the inner but does on the back of the sleeve. Oh well, time to take off my Fax anorak for the night ... e-mail: dakota.boo@pop3.hiway.co.uk web page: http://home.hiway.co.uk/boo ------------------------------ End of faxlist-digest V2002 #31 ******************************* --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org