From: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org (faxlist-digest) To: faxlist-digest@monkey.org Subject: faxlist-digest V2002 #33 Reply-To: faxlist@2350.org Sender: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Errors-To: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Precedence: bulk faxlist-digest Friday, February 15 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 033 (fax) Outland PW19 for trade RE: (fax) Secret confessions of the Marquis De Sad. Re: (fax) Secret confessions of the Marquis De Sad. RE: (fax) Secret confessions of the Marquis De Sad. Re: (fax) Outland PW19 for trade (fax) Warp stuff RE: (fax) Secret confessions of the Marquis De Sad. RE: (fax) Outland PW19 for trade RE: (fax) Warp stuff (fax) Those Tangs again. Re: (fax) Warp stuff RE: (fax) Warp stuff (fax) Hawtin & Co. Re: (fax) Warp stuff RE: (fax) Warp stuff (fax) LFO:: ADVANCE Re: (fax) LFO:: ADVANCE Re: (fax) LFO:: ADVANCE (fax) 2 Original Sealed Fax CDs for trade ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 18:06:56 -0800 From: Graham Banting Subject: (fax) Outland PW19 for trade I've stumbled upon an extra copy of Outland PW19 (Namlook/Laswell). It appears to be as new in condition. Looking for any of the following (in no specific order) but will consider other offers: FAX Compilation - Ambient Compilation 3 - PK 08/04 Compilation - Ambient Compilation 4 - PK 08/06 The Putney - PK 08/76 Namlook - PK 08/78 Hearts of Space - PK 08/81 The Dark Side of the Moog - PK 08/96 Namlook VIII + IX - PK 08/97 Move D/Namlook - Exploring the Psychedelic Landscape - PK 08/121 Miles Apart - PK 08/138 Silent Music - PK 08/139 Adlernebel - PK 08/153 I.F. - PS 08/33 Electro Harmonix - PS 08/51 Spacetime Continuum - Sea Biscuit - PS 08/61 Aerial Service Area 2 - 150 G Space Weight - PS 08/72 Xangadix 2 - PS 08/73 Transonic 3 - Future Primitive - PS 08/81 Alien Community - PW 06 A New Consciousness - PW 10 Shades of Orion 3 - PW 29 Season's Greetings - Winter - SEA 01 Passion - YT 1 Compilation - 1-Year Ambient - PKPWPS 1 RI Masters of Psychedelic Ambience - Mu - RI 028 BASS - Binary Amplified Super Stereo - RI 032 Dandy Jack - Dandy Jack and the Cosmic Trousers - RI 034 Datacide - Ondas - RI 040 Lisa Carbon - Trio de Janiero - RI 043 Dandy Jack - Dandy Jack and the Plastic Woman - RI 042 The Roger Tubesound Ensemble - Pentatonic Surprise - RI 046 Schnittstelle - RI 047 Naturalist - RI 048 Dropshadow Disease - RI 049 EM:T qubism 2294 em:t 3394 gas 0095 miasma 1195 em:t 2295 woob2 4495 em:t 5595 lucid dreams 0096 em:t 2296 em:t 1197 natural language 0098 Spyra HOMELISTENING IS KILLING CLUBS FUTURE OF THE PAST MY LITTLE GARDEN OF SOUNDS regards, graham ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 00:01:28 -0800 From: "Raphael Almeria" Subject: RE: (fax) Secret confessions of the Marquis De Sad. Ok, Paul, I don't get this. Please explain yourself. Who is the Marquis De Sad (obviously you don't mean Sade)? Or is this about YOU? ;) Cheers, - -R - -----Original Message----- From: owner-faxlist@2350.org [mailto:owner-faxlist@2350.org]On Behalf Of Paul Milligan Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 8:00 AM To: faxlist@2350.org Subject: (fax) Secret confessions of the Marquis De Sad. October 1975 - a friend lent me a copy of Ricochet by Tangerine Dream on a pre-recorded cassette and I was immediately smitten. For many consecutive nights we lay passionately together in my room ... I knew my friends wouldn't understand but, it was love and no ordinary love at that. A quarter of a century later and we still occasionally bump into each other ... age has not waned the beauty. 1996 - now considerably older (perhaps wiser?) I found myself browsing through the wares of a merchant who had travelled to England from the European mainland and set up his stall in the foyer of Derby Assembly Rooms - several hours before the renowned minstrel, Klaus Schulze, was due to take to the stage. I spied a Schulze disc that was unknown to me - The Dark Side Of The Moog - but, this was no solo disc ... he was accompanied by someone calling himself Pete Namlook. Nevertheless, I picked it out, currency was exchanged and it accompanied me home that night. I admit I was intrigued by the sado-masochistic image on the cover... but, would my wife even try to understand? Dare I even hope we might share the experience together? Alas, it was not to be, she would have none of it and once again I found myself alone and mis-understood. Thereafter, I was unable to escape the all-embracing and strange compulsion...to go back for more, again and again. - --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 08:53:28 +0000 From: "Paul Milligan" Subject: Re: (fax) Secret confessions of the Marquis De Sad. >Ok, Paul, I don't get this. Please explain yourself. mmm, I wondered if someone would ask. >Who is the Marquis De Sad (obviously you don't mean Sade)? >Or is this about YOU? You summation is correct - it was about me. A tale of my introduction to EM (the Tangs in '75) and later to Fax (via DSOTM at Schulze's Derby gig in '96) ... obviously embroidered, with tongue firmly in cheek, to lighten up an otherwise dull Wednesday afternoon. I suppose I could have come straight out with it and asked others which titles formed their introductions to EM and subsequently to Fax (and impressions thereupon) but, it just seemed like a more fun way of doing it. Incidently, I still think Ricochet is the best thing the Tangs ever released. A snapshot of the very moment of their absolute zenith imo. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:30:58 -0000 From: Edward Jones Subject: RE: (fax) Secret confessions of the Marquis De Sad. I can't remember what my first introduction to EM was. I have been a fan of Kraftwerk since I was a young chap (when "The Model" took the UK charts by storm in the early eighties), so I don't know if that counts. Also, hailing from Sheffield as I do, I was a full supporter of Warp Records from the off. My first Fax experience was Air on Rising High, and I haven't looked back since! DISCLAIMER: The information in this message is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this message by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, or distribution of the message, or any action or omission taken by you in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Please immediately contact the sender if you have received this message in error. Thank you. _____________________________________________________________________ (O)This message has been checked for all known viruses by MessageLabs. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:02:59 +0000 From: "Paul Milligan" Subject: Re: (fax) Outland PW19 for trade Hey Graham I love your nonchalant turn of phrase, like an original Outland is just some piece of flotsam or jetsam that washed up. Don't suppose you've happened upon a spare Sequential in your shed or something? >I've stumbled upon an extra copy of Outland PW19 (Namlook/Laswell). >It appears to be as new in condition. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:11:18 +0000 From: "Paul Milligan" Subject: (fax) Warp stuff >Also, hailing from Sheffield as I do, I was a full supporter of >Warp Records from the off. I really dug Artificial Intelligence and recently picked up a copy of Electro Soma by B12 (aka Musicology) which I think (?) was only the 3rd or 4th title released by Warp and highly recommended to me. Unfortunately, it's not really to my taste so, if anyone fancies a trade (it's mint) let me know what you've got to offer. I honestly have no idea whether it's in or out of print. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 01:45:30 -0800 From: "Raphael Almeria" Subject: RE: (fax) Secret confessions of the Marquis De Sad. >A tale of my introduction to EM (the Tangs in '75) and later >to Fax (via DSOTM at Schulze's Derby gig in '96) ... obviously >embroidered, with tongue firmly in cheek, to lighten up an >otherwise dull Wednesday afternoon. ha, ha! >I suppose I could have come straight out with it and asked >others which titles formed their introductions to EM and >subsequently to Fax (and impressions thereupon) but, it just >seemed like a more fun way of doing it. Mm....my guess is that you're referring to ambient electronic music and the kind that Duran Duran puts out - no? UFOrb was probably the first ambient-like music that I ever listened to followed by KLF's Chill Out. >Incidently, I still think Ricochet is the best thing the Tangs >ever released. A snapshot of the very moment of their absolute >zenith imo. Personally, I love Hyperborea but then I only have Hyperborea. Raphael - --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 01:47:40 -0800 From: "Raphael Almeria" Subject: RE: (fax) Outland PW19 for trade >I love your nonchalant turn of phrase, like an original Outland is >just some piece of flotsam or jetsam that washed up. Don't suppose >you've happened upon a spare Sequential in your shed or something? It certainly is no Sad World III! I have the original and my word... it is certainly in the same league as the Silence series. Raphael ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:51:14 -0000 From: Edward Jones Subject: RE: (fax) Warp stuff B12 not to your tastes? Sacrilege! Listen to it again and again until you like it! You'll be telling me you don't like Black Dog next! Also, Warp Records actually released their first 12" in 1989, a full four years prior to the release of Electro-Soma. People tend to associate them more with the Artificial Intelligence series than anything else, but they actually started life as quite a hard-edged "bleep house" label. Remember LFO and Sweet Exorcist for example? DISCLAIMER: The information in this message is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this message by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, or distribution of the message, or any action or omission taken by you in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Please immediately contact the sender if you have received this message in error. Thank you. _____________________________________________________________________ (O)This message has been checked for all known viruses by MessageLabs. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:24:51 +0000 From: "Paul Milligan" Subject: (fax) Those Tangs again. >> ...others which titles formed their introductions to EM and >> subsequently to Fax (and impressions thereupon) but... > ....my guess is that you're referring to ambient electronic > music and the kind that Duran Duran puts out - no? Er, no. In my lingo EM = Electronic Music. I don't believe the term "ambient" was actively even being used to describe any form of popular music back in '75 but, I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. The benchmark artists back then were TD + Schulze + Kraftwork ... and Brian Eno was still travelling through his 'transitional' stage. >Personally, I love Hyperborea but then I only have Hyperborea. Actually I think Hyperborea was something of a return to form, at the end of their Virgin era ... after (I felt) some otherwise rather derived efforts like Cyclone, Exit and Tangram. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:30:51 +0000 From: "Paul Milligan" Subject: Re: (fax) Warp stuff >B12 not to your tastes? Sacrilege! Listen to it again and again until >you like it! You'll be telling me you don't like Black Dog next! Nope. Black Dog is one of Zeppelin's finest. Seriously though, I was careful to state not to *my* taste because I am very aware of its reputation. Personally I'm not a massive fan of idm (should I be calling this idm?) when it's a whole hour's worth by one artist, much prefer the various artist comps. It'd make an excellent trade though (nudge nudge, wink wink). ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 10:12:19 -0000 From: Edward Jones Subject: RE: (fax) Warp stuff I've never really like the description IDM, as it includes the word "intelligent", implying that all other types of dance music are not. Electronica sums up this genre for me very nicely, and is the adjective I tend to use (with the odd modifier such as "ambient", for Fax et al, for example). Shame you don't have an unwanted copy of "Prelude" by B12 on CD, as that is the one I'm seriously after! I am still surprised that "IDM" does not appeal to you, as certain titles in the Fax pantheon lean very heavily towards that (bogus) genre, not least the collaborations with Richie Hawtin. DISCLAIMER: The information in this message is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this message by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, or distribution of the message, or any action or omission taken by you in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Please immediately contact the sender if you have received this message in error. Thank you. _____________________________________________________________________ (O)This message has been checked for all known viruses by MessageLabs. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 10:04:37 +0000 From: "Paul Milligan" Subject: (fax) Hawtin & Co. Ed wrote: >I am still surprised that "IDM" does not appeal to you, as certain titles in >the Fax pantheon lean very heavily towards that (bogus) genre, not least the >collaborations with Richie Hawtin. I wouldn't go so far as to say that "IDM" perse does not appeal to me just that I tend to be less enthusiastic. On Hawtin (and I know he had some stuff on Warp) I've always felt that his collaborations with Namlook lent much more heavily towards a TD derived, sequential sound - particularly the 1st From Within and the very long track on the 2nd one. Personally I find it interesting that decades later, classic material by TD and Schuze still stands up (more than adequately) to much of what the ambient genre has thrown up over more recent years. Even their imitators (RMI etc etc etc) who have the considerable benefit of superior technology, can not quite reach the heady heights of the mid 70's (Rubycon/Ricochet/Encore/Timewind/ Mirage/X/etc). Of course I freely acknowledge that ambient music by many of the artists on a label like Fax is not derivative ... but, some is. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 12:05:56 -0000 From: "Adrian Jenkinson" Subject: Re: (fax) Warp stuff The Ai series is very good indeed... got the video to the series too. One of my favorite record labels is Warp... course Aphex twin are one the most famous acts to ever come out of the Warp factory. I think i've got Electro Soma on limited Orange Vinyl somewhere. Bought the original 12" vinyl LFO Remix in '90 and "ticky disco" Ah... those were the days of old skool rave. LFO "Advance" album is wicked... ambient and banging all on the same cd. Ade. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Jones" To: Sent: 14 February 2002 09:51 Subject: RE: (fax) Warp stuff > B12 not to your tastes? Sacrilege! Listen to it again and again until you > like it! You'll be telling me you don't like Black Dog next! > > Also, Warp Records actually released their first 12" in 1989, a full four > years prior to the release of Electro-Soma. People tend to associate them > more with the Artificial Intelligence series than anything else, but they > actually started life as quite a hard-edged "bleep house" label. Remember > LFO and Sweet Exorcist for example? > > > > > > DISCLAIMER: The information in this message is confidential and may be > legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this > message by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended > recipient, any disclosure, copying, or distribution of the message, or any > action or omission taken by you in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be > unlawful. Please immediately contact the sender if you have received this > message in error. Thank you. > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ > (O)This message has been checked for all known viruses by MessageLabs. > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 12:18:42 -0000 From: "Pamplemousse" Subject: RE: (fax) Warp stuff > LFO "Advance" album is wicked... ambient and banging all on the same cd. I've gotta say that "Frequencies" is my favourite LFO album - still listen to it all the time. B12 are superb as well as is most of the Warp output. Pretty consistent over the years. Gareth Pamplemousse http://mp3.com/pamplemousse ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 23:28:33 +1100 From: "andre@sansserif.com.au" Subject: (fax) LFO:: ADVANCE ive gotta throw my $0.02 in for this album on warp.. its pure genius electronica... ambient // IDM // perfection highly recommended. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 12:29:38 -0000 From: "Adrian Jenkinson" Subject: Re: (fax) LFO:: ADVANCE Andre, check 'dis I've got a pair of Bose 4000XL speakers (10inch super long throw woofers) ok, blow one of 'em on the opening track "Advance" only had the Amp on half max power.... the Bass! wow!!! F*CKIN' WICKED TRACK... one of my favs Ade (currently playing the cd player Dark Trance... the dark side the noom!!!) - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: 14 February 2002 12:28 Subject: (fax) LFO:: ADVANCE > ive gotta throw my $0.02 in for this album on warp.. its pure genius > electronica... > > ambient // IDM // perfection > > highly recommended. > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:46:01 -0600 (CST) From: Phonaut Subject: Re: (fax) LFO:: ADVANCE mark bell is still quite busy too. His Speedjack album on R&S is pretty amazing if you like harder but very well-produced techno. really nice stuff... n/p np- FSOL "Translations" (fsol leaking some hippy rock here) . . . . . . ..... . . . . . . Official Tetsu Inoue Homepage, RadioShow Playlists, and Trades @: http://ww1.math.luc.edu/~njurcin or http://phonaut.cjb.net/ (chat) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 14:41:34 -0800 From: Etherworld Subject: (fax) 2 Original Sealed Fax CDs for trade Hello: I have the following 2 FAX CDs for trade: Aerial Service Area 2 (sealed) PS 08/72 Namlook VI "Caves of Cubik" (sealed) PK 08/92 wanted: em:t 0094 (original UK release only, not on Instinct) woob 1194 (original UK release only, not on Instinct) miasma 1195 international peoples gang 3395 woob^2 4495 em:t 5595 lucid dreams 0096 beat system 2297 natural language 0098 Will trade 1 for 1. Thanks, Joe Rapoza ------------------------------ End of faxlist-digest V2002 #33 ******************************* --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org