From: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org (faxlist-digest) To: faxlist-digest@monkey.org Subject: faxlist-digest V2002 #58 Reply-To: faxlist@2350.org Sender: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Errors-To: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Precedence: bulk faxlist-digest Wednesday, April 3 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 058 (fax) Paul Milligan, whats your email address? RE: (fax) Psychonavigation 5 RE: (fax) more moog.... Re: (fax) more moog.... (fax) Re: faxlist-digest V2002 #57 Re: (fax) Re: faxlist-digest V2002 #57 RE: (fax) Re: faxlist-digest V2002 #57 R: (fax) Re: faxlist-digest V2002 #57 Re: (fax) Re: faxlist-digest V2002 #57 Re: (fax) more moog.... Re: (fax) more moog.... Re: (fax) more moog.... Re: (fax) more moog.... Re: (fax) more moog.... Re: (fax) more moog.... Re: (fax) more moog.... (fax) New ambient label from holland Re: (fax) more moog.... (fax) Moogs, Skipping, Spooky & ambient02 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 17:05:03 +1000 From: "andre@sansserif.com.au" Subject: (fax) Paul Milligan, whats your email address? sansserifgrafik andre ruello - L=F6se auf raum und Zeit ph. 0414 611 635 - ICQ 63904680 - http://www.sansserif.com.au ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 08:52:23 +0100 From: Edward Jones Subject: RE: (fax) Psychonavigation 5 Got hold of this around the middle of last week. Unfortunately haven't had time to listen to the whole thing, but what I have heard is okay. Will try and get around to giving it a proper audition over the next couple of days and report back to the list. DISCLAIMER: The information in this message is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this message by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, or distribution of the message, or any action or omission taken by you in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Please immediately contact the sender if you have received this message in error. Thank you. _____________________________________________________________________ (O)This message has been checked for all known viruses by MessageLabs. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 08:57:55 +0100 From: Edward Jones Subject: RE: (fax) more moog.... Oh bloody hell! Reissues of DSOTM 1-6, AND Part 9. Help! DISCLAIMER: The information in this message is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this message by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, or distribution of the message, or any action or omission taken by you in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Please immediately contact the sender if you have received this message in error. Thank you. _____________________________________________________________________ (O)This message has been checked for all known viruses by MessageLabs. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 09:33:24 +0100 From: "Paul Milligan" Subject: Re: (fax) more moog.... >Klaus Shulze has just send namlook some new material, >Dark Side of the Moog IX >is on its way.. Bear in mind that KS and PN are just about my two favourite EM guys when I say that ... if this does *not* offer something genuinely fresh (imo 7 & 8 were pretty stale) then it's hardly a cause for celebration. You know, I'd rather see them actually get together in the studio and have KS produce the project - a Wahnfried thing (perhaps with Schaaf or Uberschall involved) - instead of Klaus just sending Pete more DAT tapes in the post. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 07:12:22 -0800 (PST) From: The Mister Subject: (fax) Re: faxlist-digest V2002 #57 > Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 10:49:32 +1000 > From: "andre@sansserif.com.au" > > Subject: (fax) more moog.... > > just in from the front.. > > Klaus Shulze has just send namlook some new material, > Dark Side of the Moog IX is on its way. Hmmm... so no sessions together? Just Pete recording his parts over Klaus'? Not how I pictured it happening. Are any of the other DSotMs recorded this way? I was under the impression that they were usually in the studio together, bouncing ideas off each other. Damon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 16:20:44 +0100 From: "Paul Milligan" Subject: Re: (fax) Re: faxlist-digest V2002 #57 >Hmmm... so no sessions together? Just Pete recording >his parts over Klaus'? > >Not how I pictured it happening. Are any of the other >DSotMs recorded this way? I was under the impression >that they were usually in the studio together, >bouncing ideas off each other. To the best of my knowledge KS has always sent PK DAT tapes for Pete to do with as he feels fit, No.8 being an obvious exception. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 16:30:00 +0100 From: Edward Jones Subject: RE: (fax) Re: faxlist-digest V2002 #57 I get the feeling they were all recorded in this way, with the exception of the live CD (Part VIII). It is a collaboration between two great musical hermits anyway, so what else can we expect? DISCLAIMER: The information in this message is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this message by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, or distribution of the message, or any action or omission taken by you in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Please immediately contact the sender if you have received this message in error. Thank you. _____________________________________________________________________ (O)This message has been checked for all known viruses by MessageLabs. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 18:28:59 +0200 From: "stm" Subject: R: (fax) Re: faxlist-digest V2002 #57 > To the best of my knowledge KS has always sent PK DAT > tapes for Pete to do with as he feels fit, No.8 being > an obvious exception. No. 1 is another exception, being it recorded at Klaus' studio. - -- Riccardo np: Wagon Christ - Musipal .. . . . . . . . . . . .. musictrade http://digilander.iol.it/radioactivetoy .. . . . . . . . . . . .. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 08:32:17 -0800 (PST) From: The Mister Subject: Re: (fax) Re: faxlist-digest V2002 #57 - --- Paul Milligan wrote: > To the best of my knowledge KS has always sent PK > DAT tapes for Pete to do with as he feels fit, No.8 > being an obvious exception. *sigh*... I feel disillusioned. :-( Oh well. As long as the music is still good... Damon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 12:23:03 -0500 From: "jackthetab" Subject: Re: (fax) more moog.... actually, I heard DSOTM VII and VIII before I heard any of the others. After listening to both of these albums, I decided that the rest of the series must be utter crap. Over time, I have found out that I was wrong...but gawd, IX better not sound anything like the last couple. The sound was sooo boring in VII and VIII.... jackthetab i think therefore i ambient #####\ _ /##### #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# ##### | /_woof/ | ##### #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# #####/ ######/ \###### \##### /_________________TRIBAL________________\ http://www.superior.net/~zothboy si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 10:47:19 -0800 (PST) From: Greg Hill Subject: Re: (fax) more moog.... Why do you think that DSOTM V11 is booring? I feel this is the best of the series besides #5..The last song has some of the best somber string synth ever! the 2nd song is also a classic..Which DSOM's do you like?? - --- jackthetab wrote: > actually, I heard DSOTM VII and VIII before I heard > any of the others. After listening to both of > these albums, I decided that the rest of the > series must be utter crap. Over time, I have > found out that I was wrong...but gawd, IX better > not sound anything like the last couple. The sound > was sooo boring in VII and VIII.... > > jackthetab > > i think therefore i ambient > #####\ _ /##### > #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# > ##### | /_woof/ | ##### > #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# > # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # > #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# > #####/ ######/ \###### \##### > /_________________TRIBAL________________\ > > http://www.superior.net/~zothboy > si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes > > > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 13:56:37 -0500 From: "jackthetab" Subject: Re: (fax) more moog.... so far the only one I really like from the series is the first release. III is a good release as well, but does not stand up to the first one. With VII, I found myself skipping a few tracks on the cd, because I just could not handle them. I guess I was not overly thrilled with Klaus Schulze and Bill Laswell. Altho, I am not a real fan of Bill Laswell anyhow. Track 4 in particular is a bit annoying. To me, it has a very cheesey synth sound. Track two sounds like the commercial trance of today. It's nothing to original, and kind of lacks any real power to maintain interest. jackthetab i think therefore i ambient #####\ _ /##### #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# ##### | /_woof/ | ##### #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# #####/ ######/ \###### \##### /_________________TRIBAL________________\ http://www.superior.net/~zothboy si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Hill" To: "jackthetab" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 1:47 PM Subject: Re: (fax) more moog.... > Why do you think that DSOTM V11 is booring? I feel > this is the best of the series besides #5..The last > song has some of the best somber string synth ever! > the 2nd song is also a classic..Which DSOM's do you > like?? > > > > > --- jackthetab wrote: > > actually, I heard DSOTM VII and VIII before I heard > > any of the others. After listening to both of > > these albums, I decided that the rest of the > > series must be utter crap. Over time, I have > > found out that I was wrong...but gawd, IX better > > not sound anything like the last couple. The sound > > was sooo boring in VII and VIII.... > > > > jackthetab > > > > i think therefore i ambient > > #####\ _ /##### > > #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# > > ##### | /_woof/ | ##### > > #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# > > # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # > > #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# > > #####/ ######/ \###### \##### > > /_________________TRIBAL________________\ > > > > http://www.superior.net/~zothboy > > si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes > > > > > > > > --- > > + To post: ; to mail a person: > > > > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > > > > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax > www.2350.org > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax > http://http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 13:57:30 -0500 From: "jackthetab" Subject: Re: (fax) more moog.... in all honesty however...I was never really thrilled with any of the DSOTM's. The concept is nice, but the sounds just dont do it fer me. jackthetab i think therefore i ambient #####\ _ /##### #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# ##### | /_woof/ | ##### #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# #####/ ######/ \###### \##### /_________________TRIBAL________________\ http://www.superior.net/~zothboy si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 12:28:07 -0800 (PST) From: Greg Hill Subject: Re: (fax) more moog.... I find myself skipping a few tracks on almost EVERY Namlook cd(including a couple of crap ones on DSOM#7!)..this could be the case for almost EVERY cd in general...how many cds do people have that they like every single song, without skipping any...I know I have VERY few... - --- jackthetab wrote: > so far the only one I really like from the series > is the first release. III is a good release as well, > but does not stand up to the first one. With VII, I > found myself skipping a few tracks on the cd, > because > I just could not handle them. I guess I was not > overly > thrilled with Klaus Schulze and Bill Laswell. Altho, > I > am not a real fan of Bill Laswell anyhow. Track 4 in > > particular is a bit annoying. To me, it has a very > cheesey > synth sound. Track two sounds like the commercial > trance > of today. It's nothing to original, and kind of > lacks > any real power to maintain interest. > > jackthetab > > i think therefore i ambient > #####\ _ /##### > #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# > ##### | /_woof/ | ##### > #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# > # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # > #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# > #####/ ######/ \###### \##### > /_________________TRIBAL________________\ > > http://www.superior.net/~zothboy > si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Greg Hill" > To: "jackthetab" > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 1:47 PM > Subject: Re: (fax) more moog.... > > > > Why do you think that DSOTM V11 is booring? I feel > > this is the best of the series besides #5..The > last > > song has some of the best somber string synth > ever! > > the 2nd song is also a classic..Which DSOM's do > you > > like?? > > > > > > > > > > --- jackthetab wrote: > > > actually, I heard DSOTM VII and VIII before I > heard > > > any of the others. After listening to both of > > > these albums, I decided that the rest of the > > > series must be utter crap. Over time, I have > > > found out that I was wrong...but gawd, IX better > > > > not sound anything like the last couple. The > sound > > > was sooo boring in VII and VIII.... > > > > > > jackthetab > > > > > > i think therefore i ambient > > > #####\ _ /##### > > > #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# > > > ##### | /_woof/ | ##### > > > > #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# > > > > # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # > > > #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# > > > > #####/ ######/ \###### \##### > > > /_________________TRIBAL________________\ > > > > > > > http://www.superior.net/~zothboy > > > si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > + To post: ; to mail a person: > > > > > > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > > > > > > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax > > www.2350.org > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax > > http://http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 13:36:38 -0700 (MST) From: wallace winfrey Subject: Re: (fax) more moog.... On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Greg Hill wrote: > I find myself skipping a few tracks on almost EVERY > Namlook cd(including a couple of crap ones on > DSOM#7!)..this could be the case for almost EVERY cd > in general...how many cds do people have that they > like every single song, without skipping any...I know > I have VERY few... Global Communications - 76:14 Boards of Canada - Music Has The Right to Children Air 1 & 2 Sultan 1 Fires of Ork Shades of Orion (yes I like the "techno" song on it) w ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 21:39:55 +0100 From: "Rich" Subject: Re: (fax) more moog.... I've even found myself skipping my own tracks on CD - how bad could that be?? Seriously, I don't think I have a single CD that I could play and love every track. Musical taste doesn't work like that. Saying that, I generally tend to listen to DSOTM 1 and 2 straight through... maybe pausing it at some point, and listening to it later... I remember turning the music off on Doom and listening to these DSOTM's instead. it just worked for me. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Hill" To: "jackthetab" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 9:28 PM Subject: Re: (fax) more moog.... | I find myself skipping a few tracks on almost EVERY | Namlook cd(including a couple of crap ones on | DSOM#7!)..this could be the case for almost EVERY cd | in general...how many cds do people have that they | like every single song, without skipping any...I know | I have VERY few... | | | | | --- jackthetab wrote: | > so far the only one I really like from the series | > is the first release. III is a good release as well, | > but does not stand up to the first one. With VII, I | > found myself skipping a few tracks on the cd, | > because | > I just could not handle them. I guess I was not | > overly | > thrilled with Klaus Schulze and Bill Laswell. Altho, | > I | > am not a real fan of Bill Laswell anyhow. Track 4 in | > | > particular is a bit annoying. To me, it has a very | > cheesey | > synth sound. Track two sounds like the commercial | > trance | > of today. It's nothing to original, and kind of | > lacks | > any real power to maintain interest. | > | > jackthetab | > | > i think therefore i ambient | > #####\ _ /##### | > #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# | > ##### | /_woof/ | ##### | > #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# | > # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # | > #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# | > #####/ ######/ \###### \##### | > /_________________TRIBAL________________\ | > | > http://www.superior.net/~zothboy | > si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes | > | > | > ----- Original Message ----- | > From: "Greg Hill" | > To: "jackthetab" | > Cc: | > Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 1:47 PM | > Subject: Re: (fax) more moog.... | > | > | > > Why do you think that DSOTM V11 is booring? I feel | > > this is the best of the series besides #5..The | > last | > > song has some of the best somber string synth | > ever! | > > the 2nd song is also a classic..Which DSOM's do | > you | > > like?? | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > --- jackthetab wrote: | > > > actually, I heard DSOTM VII and VIII before I | > heard | > > > any of the others. After listening to both of | > > > these albums, I decided that the rest of the | > > > series must be utter crap. Over time, I have | > > > found out that I was wrong...but gawd, IX better | > | > > > not sound anything like the last couple. The | > sound | > > > was sooo boring in VII and VIII.... | > > > | > > > jackthetab | > > > | > > > i think therefore i ambient | > > > #####\ _ /##### | > > > #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# | > > > ##### | /_woof/ | ##### | > | > > > #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# | > | > > > # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # | > > > #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# | > | > > > #####/ ######/ \###### \##### | > > > /_________________TRIBAL________________\ | > | > > > | > > > http://www.superior.net/~zothboy | > > > si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes | > > > | > > > | > > > | > > > --- | > > > + To post: ; to mail a person: | > > > | > > > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to | > > > | > > > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax | > > www.2350.org | > > | > > | > > __________________________________________________ | > > Do You Yahoo!? | > > Yahoo! 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Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax | http://http://taxes.yahoo.com/ | --- | + To post: ; to mail a person: | + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to | + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 12:14:56 +1000 From: "andre@sansserif.com.au" Subject: (fax) New ambient label from holland ITs not Fax but im sure listmemebers will appreciate it.. just got a promo in the mail from Databloem a Dutch label "showcasing new Namlooks and Atom Hearts around the globe" the first release is a compilation thats quite excellent.. www.databloem.com sansserifgrafik andre ruello - L=F6se auf raum und Zeit ph. 0414 611 635 - ICQ 63904680 - http://www.sansserif.com.au ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 00:18:48 -0500 From: "jackthetab" Subject: Re: (fax) more moog.... just to name a few....but I agree, there are not many The Black Album - LSG Rendezvous In Outer Space - LSG anything from Muslimgauze DSOTM I Necropolis - DJ SPOOKY THAT SUBLIMINAL KID Chill Out - KLF anything from Raison D'etre Namlook IV VRS-MBNT-PCS 959811 - JOCHEM PAAP VRS-MBNT-PCS 95981 - JOCHEM PAAP Limelight jackthetab i think therefore i ambient #####\ _ /##### #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# ##### | /_woof/ | ##### #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# #####/ ######/ \###### \##### /_________________TRIBAL________________\ http://www.superior.net/~zothboy si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 10:05:46 +0100 From: "Paul Milligan" Subject: (fax) Moogs, Skipping, Spooky & ambient02 >actually, I heard DSOTM VII and VIII before I heard >any of the others. After listening to both of >these albums, I decided that the rest of the >series must be utter crap. We appear to be singing off the same hymn sheet regarding VII + VIII but, you weren't specific about which others you've heard since? IMO V + VI are/were the zenith of the series. To be perfectly frank I have no doubt that KS 'knocked out' VII as he was heading full tilt into a period of collaborating with anyone and everyone who asked him, witness that 10 disc Contemporary Works thing he put out shortly after. Ugh. Incidently, I *do* find myself skipping stuff on LSG albums - - when it gets too techno (without the ambient) but, I agree about Chill Out and Namlook IV...I mean, imagine extracting a short (out-of-context) section from the latter...PK hardly even gets away with it on the recent Chill comp. What's Necropolis by DJ Spooky like? With a name like that you can't help but be intrigued. Ditto his Songs Of A Dead Dreamer. (Mmm, wonder if I'll be skipping that last track on a02 when it arrives over here courtesy of Dark Duck?) ------------------------------ End of faxlist-digest V2002 #58 ******************************* --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org