From: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org (faxlist-digest) To: faxlist-digest@monkey.org Subject: faxlist-digest V2002 #93 Reply-To: faxlist@2350.org Sender: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Errors-To: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Precedence: bulk faxlist-digest Wednesday, June 5 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 093 (fax) FS/FT - Syn, Gate/Sol, others (fax) Opinions on DSOTM #IX Re: (fax) Opinions on DSOTM #IX Re: (fax) Opinions on DSOTM #IX (fax) FAX 10th Anniversary Release RE: (fax) Fax tenth anniversary Re: (fax) FAX 10th Anniversary Release Re: (fax) Fax tenth anniversary (fax) "UFO Detection System" Re: (fax) Opinions on DSOTM #IX ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 16:14:43 +0100 From: "David Calvert" Subject: (fax) FS/FT - Syn, Gate/Sol, others A few Fax/Namlook titles for sale/trade ... CD Syn (PK08/95, double) CD Gate/Sol - Gate/Sol (PS08/47) 12" Deltraxx (PK08/17) 12" 4 Voice (Rising High, white label promo, RSN67) 12" Edenhouse (Rising High, white label promo, RSN68) More Fax (and other) stuff on my web page at http://home.hiway.co.uk/boo I also have some Black Dog, Blue Planet, Eat Raw, GPR, Air Liquide, DJ Ungle Fever, Force Inc, Plink Plonk, Em:t, etc., which have yet to make it to my web pages - please drop me a line off-list if interested and I'll forward you a list. For trades I'm still looking for the following ... Compilation 1 (PK08/01, not PS08/01) Silence (PK08/25) Air (PK08/54) Silence II (PK08/68) Namlook (PK08/78) Dreamfish (PW02) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 22:30:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Hill Subject: (fax) Opinions on DSOTM #IX Well, I recieved my copy of DSOTM IX today and bascially do not think its all that great. I know Paul REALLY gave it some raving reviews and that's cool..I realize everyone has opinions on what they like and dislike..well my opinion of this is that it sounds like Klaus Schulze made the whole cd!(sorry I'm not that big of a Schulze fan) the sequencer's are VERY boring, and the songs are all fairly stagnant..I would say so far that DSOM #4,5, 7, and 8 are EASILY better in my opinion! DSOM #5, and 7 don't even compare to IX! I come from a Electro background(the mid 80's is when I started getting into Synth type music), and was brought up on Spacey synth strings, vocoder's and nice melody with beats... the songs are just to chilled for my taste(where are the BIG sounding MOOGS!!), I need some beats(#5,7) some weird analogue synths(#5,7,8), some bad ass cinematic synth strings(#7,8), etc...which #IX was very much lacking..a few tracks are decent(#2 is pretty cool), but overall I would rate this as being about the 5th best cd so far in the installment..I know I will catch some flax(Paul,and I'm sure other's will disagree with me)from this, but hey everyone has there opinions, right? this is a place to voice them. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 01:32:14 -0400 From: "jackthetab" Subject: Re: (fax) Opinions on DSOTM #IX that is scary, since I feel that 7 and 8 are the worst in the series. kunst und wahnsinn, jackthetab #####\ _ /##### #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# ##### | /_woof/ | ##### #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# #####/ ######/ \###### \##### /_______________________________________\ - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Hill" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:30 AM Subject: (fax) Opinions on DSOTM #IX > Well, I recieved my copy of DSOTM IX today and > bascially do not think its all that great. I know Paul > REALLY gave it some raving reviews and that's cool..I > realize everyone has opinions on what they like and > dislike..well my opinion of this is that it sounds > like Klaus Schulze made the whole cd!(sorry I'm not > that big of a Schulze fan) the sequencer's are VERY > boring, and the songs are all fairly stagnant..I would > say so far that DSOM #4,5, 7, and 8 are EASILY better > in my opinion! DSOM #5, and 7 don't even compare to > IX! I come from a Electro background(the mid 80's is > when I started getting into Synth type music), and was > brought up on Spacey synth strings, vocoder's and nice > melody with beats... the songs are just to chilled for > my taste(where are the BIG sounding MOOGS!!), I need > some beats(#5,7) some weird analogue synths(#5,7,8), > some bad ass cinematic synth strings(#7,8), > etc...which #IX was very much lacking..a few tracks > are decent(#2 is pretty cool), but overall I would > rate this as being about the 5th best cd so far in the > installment..I know I will catch some flax(Paul,and > I'm sure other's will disagree with me)from this, but > hey everyone has there opinions, right? this is a > place to voice them. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 11:27:38 +0100 From: "Paul Milligan" Subject: Re: (fax) Opinions on DSOTM #IX Greg wasn't impressed by the new Moog and I'd be the first here to say he's perfectly entitled to his view (no less than I am) without having to take a load of 'flax' for it. Therefore, I'll try to respond to his points constructively... >> my opinion of this is that it sounds like Klaus Schulze made >> the whole cd! (sorry I'm not that big of a Schulze fan) To some extent I agree (see my original comment regarding the fact that KS's star shines brightest) but, notwithstanding that I and others here will see that as potentially a positive thing, I think you've underestimated how effectively Pete has integrated his sounds into the whole ... there's numerous examples of his programming, rhythms, soloing, etc, it's just that they're harder to spot these days. That said, early Moogs were criticised for being too easy to spot which player was taking his turn so, in that sense, Pete can't do right for doing wrong! IX represents a rather considerable progression in pursuit of the seamless blend. >> I come from a Electro background (the mid 80's is when I started >> getting into Synth type music) Herein, I suggest, lies the root of our differences. Incidently, I consider the 80's to have been the least important decade for 'electronic music' ... the 70's were groundbreaking, the 90's brought real development. For me, the 80's were, to a great extent, the superficial years. >> I need some beats(#5,7) some weird analogue synths(#5,7,8) I assume you're differentiating between "beats" and 'rhythm' as, yes, there is little in the way of a 4/4 dropped in but, much more in the way of an integrated, fluid pulse (see my comment above re the 80's) and whilst the analogue synths aren't particularly "weird" they are nicely placed in the "Future Of The Past". >> some bad ass cinematic synth strings(#7,8) etc...which #IX was very >> much lacking Again, I would agree to an extent, as there's no in-yer-face syrupy stuff but, I also feel that the artists have actually 'connected' with their instruments on an almost unprecedented level. At times IX almost aches with melancholia and personally I found that to be more uplifting (musically/aesthetically speaking) >> I would rate this as being about the 5th best cd so far Others might agree or, at least feel it isn't their best but, I stand by my original comments. Those who feel, as I did, that the last two installments (VII + VIII) were actually the least interesting in the series ... technically accomplished but, ultimately, quite boring ... might respond differently. I believe IX is significantly better than all those that have gone before. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 11:36:32 +0100 From: Edward Jones Subject: (fax) FAX 10th Anniversary Release Did anything come of this? Andre? DISCLAIMER: The information in this message is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this message by anyone else is unauthorised. 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Thank you. _____________________________________________________________________ (O)This message has been checked for all known viruses by MessageLabs. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 21:02:29 +1000 From: "electroteque" Subject: RE: (fax) Fax tenth anniversary yes the fax channel is a good place to start to realtime chat some ideas irc.nodetree.net #fax - -----Original Message----- From: owner-faxlist@2350.org [mailto:owner-faxlist@2350.org]On Behalf Of Caspar Strom Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 2:32 AM To: faxlist@2350.org Subject: Re: (fax) Fax tenth anniversary At 11:45 2002-06-01 +0200, you wrote: >I apologise if this has already been discussed on the list - in which case >forget it, but it occurred to me this morning as I was listening to Silence >that this album and hence Fax also will be ten years old this year. > >I was thinking it would be good if we, the members of the faxlist do >something together to celebrate this milestone. I know in the past we have >had the world fax listening days a couple of years back orgainised I think >by Noah, but is there >someway we could get together? Ideas anyone? > >Rich Yes. The fax IRC channel is still open. :) - --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 21:11:32 +1000 From: "andre@sansserif.com.au" Subject: Re: (fax) FAX 10th Anniversary Release on 5/6/02 20:36, Edward Jones at EJONES@iirltd.co.uk wrote: > Did anything come of this? Andre? still in the queue i think... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 12:03:47 +0100 From: "Paul Milligan" Subject: Re: (fax) Fax tenth anniversary As far as I am concerned Pete is still going with his 'deluxe' multi-artist collaboration (+ fancy art) which was discussed here earlier in the year. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 14:02:55 +0200 From: Caspar =?iso-8859-1?Q?Str=F6m?= Subject: (fax) "UFO Detection System" Sorry if this has been up before, but I think this is the funniest track ever on FAx. The long irritating sounds together with the stupid title makes me laugh every time. If it was intended to be anything else than a joke I don't get it. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 11:39:32 -0400 (EDT) From: laerm Subject: Re: (fax) Opinions on DSOTM #IX On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Paul Milligan wrote: > Herein, I suggest, lies the root of our differences. Incidently, I > consider the 80's to have been the least important decade for > 'electronic music' ... the 70's were groundbreaking, the 90's brought > real development. For me, the 80's were, to a great extent, the > superficial years. in a sense, though, wasn't the superficiality just as important? a) it brought electronic music to the masses, b) and as a related point, more people started making electronic music, leading to the rise of techno, and c) a bit of superficiality was good in a genre that had taken itself quite seriously up until that point. personally, i haven't heard a lot of development in the 90's. at least in pure electronic music, i.e. music done with synthesised tones. the sampler and the computer are the only things that've really pushed electronic music forward in the 90's. i mean, what would autechre be without the sampler, as an example? a lot of 90's electronic music (daresay, all ambient) seems to be going back to the 70's for inspiration. : sig : micah stupak international bright young kook laerm@soulfood.org : quote : soon i'll have the courage to leave my thoughts behind ------------------------------ End of faxlist-digest V2002 #93 ******************************* --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org