From: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org (faxlist-digest) To: faxlist-digest@monkey.org Subject: faxlist-digest V2003 #17 Reply-To: faxlist@2350.org Sender: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Errors-To: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Precedence: bulk faxlist-digest Friday, January 24 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 017 (fax) RE: faxlist-digest V2003 #16 RE: (fax) RE: faxlist-digest V2003 #16 (fax) Solo (fax) RE: Solo (fax) DSOTM/Schulze (was solo) RE: (fax) RE: Solo RE: (fax) RE: Solo RE: (fax) RE: Solo (fax) RE: kraftwerk in sydney ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 09:52:46 -0000 From: "Rowland Atkinson" Subject: (fax) RE: faxlist-digest V2003 #16 synth solos are what nearly put me off fax for life. they are self-indulgent semi-jazz wankery that have no place in the musical aesthetic of ambient music. flame away! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 22:34:11 +1100 From: "Dan Rossi" Subject: RE: (fax) RE: faxlist-digest V2003 #16 ??? have you not heard the one i am talking about and i highly doubt it has any resemblance to a jazz sound , hek i doubt i've ever seen a jazz musician use a 4 voice , apart from this cut up footage i've seen on projections where this 70's blak funk group were using a 2 voice heh :D - -----Original Message----- From: owner-faxlist@2350.org [mailto:owner-faxlist@2350.org]On Behalf Of Rowland Atkinson Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 8:53 PM To: faxlist@2350.org Subject: (fax) RE: faxlist-digest V2003 #16 synth solos are what nearly put me off fax for life. they are self-indulgent semi-jazz wankery that have no place in the musical aesthetic of ambient music. flame away! - --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 11:47:36 -0000 From: "Rowland Atkinson" Subject: (fax) Solo well using the term 'sole' is itself suggestive of improv and i see that a lot in namlooks stuff, he did used to be a jazz musician as well. i also think that the over-dramatic nature of many of the solo's is offputting. Grandeur ends up sounding pompous and over-blown. I just have an antipathy to that area of the FAX label, esxpec DSOTM. What used to be interesting was that these two paradigms of ambient could co-exist but now that Namlook has made the label his own personal vanity publisher its all rather pointless. I know, I know - i should leave this list in peace! cheers rA > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Rossi [mailto:daniel@electroteque.org] > Sent: 22 January 2003 11:34 > To: R.Atkinson@socsci.gla.ac.uk; faxlist@2350.org > Subject: RE: (fax) RE: faxlist-digest V2003 #16 > > > ??? have you not heard the one i am talking about and i highly > doubt it has > any resemblance to a jazz sound , hek i doubt i've ever seen a > jazz musician > use a 4 voice , apart from this cut up footage i've seen on projections > where this 70's blak funk group were using a 2 voice heh :D > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-faxlist@2350.org [mailto:owner-faxlist@2350.org]On Behalf Of > Rowland Atkinson > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 8:53 PM > To: faxlist@2350.org > Subject: (fax) RE: faxlist-digest V2003 #16 > > > synth solos are what nearly put me off fax for life. they are > self-indulgent > semi-jazz wankery that have no place in the musical aesthetic of ambient > music. flame away! > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 22:45:05 +1100 From: "Dan Rossi" Subject: (fax) RE: Solo i know what you mean though , some of the drones just sound the same and not much meaning at all a bit over done say to speak. - -----Original Message----- From: Rowland Atkinson [mailto:R.Atkinson@socsci.gla.ac.uk] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 10:48 PM To: Dan Rossi; faxlist@2350.org Subject: Solo well using the term 'sole' is itself suggestive of improv and i see that a lot in namlooks stuff, he did used to be a jazz musician as well. i also think that the over-dramatic nature of many of the solo's is offputting. Grandeur ends up sounding pompous and over-blown. I just have an antipathy to that area of the FAX label, esxpec DSOTM. What used to be interesting was that these two paradigms of ambient could co-exist but now that Namlook has made the label his own personal vanity publisher its all rather pointless. I know, I know - i should leave this list in peace! cheers rA > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Rossi [mailto:daniel@electroteque.org] > Sent: 22 January 2003 11:34 > To: R.Atkinson@socsci.gla.ac.uk; faxlist@2350.org > Subject: RE: (fax) RE: faxlist-digest V2003 #16 > > > ??? have you not heard the one i am talking about and i highly > doubt it has > any resemblance to a jazz sound , hek i doubt i've ever seen a > jazz musician > use a 4 voice , apart from this cut up footage i've seen on projections > where this 70's blak funk group were using a 2 voice heh :D > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-faxlist@2350.org [mailto:owner-faxlist@2350.org]On Behalf Of > Rowland Atkinson > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 8:53 PM > To: faxlist@2350.org > Subject: (fax) RE: faxlist-digest V2003 #16 > > > synth solos are what nearly put me off fax for life. they are > self-indulgent > semi-jazz wankery that have no place in the musical aesthetic of ambient > music. flame away! > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 13:04:16 +0000 From: Paul Milligan Subject: (fax) DSOTM/Schulze (was solo) > Grandeur ends up sounding pompous and over-blown. I just have an antipathy > to that area of the FAX label, esxpec DSOTM. I suspect a slight on Klaus here? However, not withstanding that I am a big KS fan I'd be the first to admit he's well known for his soloing particularly in live situations and some of them do sound pretty similar! So how does he get away with it? Basically methinks it's down to 3 things: the quality of the music which underpins (and bookends) the solos, the fact he does it better than most and the fact he has a hard core following who accept virtually everything he does (even when we're secretly a bit disappointed) ... self included. Paul PS. He definitely gets away with it on DSOTM9 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 02:06:05 +1100 From: "Sebastian Pucilowski" Subject: RE: (fax) RE: Solo On that topic, I am listening to Kooler for the first time as we speak. My god, the first track is *wonderful* stuff! Perfect, delightful, eerie, home. I have this to wonder the streets with, I have Recurring Dreams of the Urban Myth to wonder the skies with... Mmm. Yum! Anything else like this on the early label/sublabel I should look out for? Sebastian Pucilowski - -----Original Message----- From: owner-faxlist@2350.org [mailto:owner-faxlist@2350.org] On Behalf Of Dan Rossi Sent: Wednesday, 22 January 2003 10:45 PM To: R.Atkinson@socsci.gla.ac.uk; faxlist@2350.org Subject: (fax) RE: Solo i know what you mean though , some of the drones just sound the same and not much meaning at all a bit over done say to speak. - -----Original Message----- From: Rowland Atkinson [mailto:R.Atkinson@socsci.gla.ac.uk] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 10:48 PM To: Dan Rossi; faxlist@2350.org Subject: Solo well using the term 'sole' is itself suggestive of improv and i see that a lot in namlooks stuff, he did used to be a jazz musician as well. i also think that the over-dramatic nature of many of the solo's is offputting. Grandeur ends up sounding pompous and over-blown. I just have an antipathy to that area of the FAX label, esxpec DSOTM. What used to be interesting was that these two paradigms of ambient could co-exist but now that Namlook has made the label his own personal vanity publisher its all rather pointless. I know, I know - i should leave this list in peace! cheers rA > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Rossi [mailto:daniel@electroteque.org] > Sent: 22 January 2003 11:34 > To: R.Atkinson@socsci.gla.ac.uk; faxlist@2350.org > Subject: RE: (fax) RE: faxlist-digest V2003 #16 > > > ??? have you not heard the one i am talking about and i highly doubt > it has any resemblance to a jazz sound , hek i doubt i've ever seen a > jazz musician > use a 4 voice , apart from this cut up footage i've seen on projections > where this 70's blak funk group were using a 2 voice heh :D > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-faxlist@2350.org [mailto:owner-faxlist@2350.org]On Behalf > Of Rowland Atkinson > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 8:53 PM > To: faxlist@2350.org > Subject: (fax) RE: faxlist-digest V2003 #16 > > > synth solos are what nearly put me off fax for life. they are > self-indulgent semi-jazz wankery that have no place in the musical > aesthetic of ambient music. flame away! > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax > + www.2350.org > - --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax + www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 15:06:08 -0000 From: Richard Hughes Subject: RE: (fax) RE: Solo In the same vein, the obvious suggestion would be Meloche's "Wireless" (ps08/69), which *imho* may even be better than Recurring Dreams.=20 - -----Original Message----- From: Sebastian Pucilowski [mailto:lordsaba@softhome.net]=20 Sent: mercoled=EC 22 gennaio 2003 16.06 To: faxlist@2350.org Subject: RE: (fax) RE: Solo On that topic, I am listening to Kooler for the first time as we speak. My god, the first track is *wonderful* stuff! Perfect, delightful, eerie, home. I have this to wonder the streets with, I have Recurring Dreams of the Urban Myth to wonder the skies with... Mmm. Yum! Anything else like this on the early label/sublabel I should look out for? Sebastian Pucilowski=20 *************************************************************************** The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee and access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken, or omitted to be taken, in reliance on it is prohibited and may be unlawful. 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Sebastian Pucilowski=20 - -----Original Message----- From: owner-faxlist@2350.org [mailto:owner-faxlist@2350.org] On Behalf Of Richard Hughes Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2003 2:06 AM To: 'Sebastian Pucilowski'; faxlist@2350.org Subject: RE: (fax) RE: Solo In the same vein, the obvious suggestion would be Meloche's "Wireless" (ps08/69), which *imho* may even be better than Recurring Dreams.=20 - -----Original Message----- From: Sebastian Pucilowski [mailto:lordsaba@softhome.net]=20 Sent: mercoled=EC 22 gennaio 2003 16.06 To: faxlist@2350.org Subject: RE: (fax) RE: Solo On that topic, I am listening to Kooler for the first time as we speak. My god, the first track is *wonderful* stuff! Perfect, delightful, eerie, home. I have this to wonder the streets with, I have Recurring Dreams of the Urban Myth to wonder the skies with... Mmm. Yum! Anything else like this on the early label/sublabel I should look out for? 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