From: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org (faxlist-digest) To: faxlist-digest@monkey.org Subject: faxlist-digest V2003 #32 Reply-To: faxlist@2350.org Sender: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Errors-To: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Precedence: bulk faxlist-digest Monday, February 17 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 032 Re: (fax) Re: fax headphone listeners Re: (fax) Re: fax headphone listeners Re: (fax) Re: fax headphone listeners RE: (fax) Re: fax headphone listeners RE: (fax) Re: fax headphone listeners/Adham Shaikh & the new Spyra Re: (fax) Re: fax headphone listeners/Adham Shaikh & the new Spyra Re: (fax) Re: fax headphone listeners (fax) eBay bargain : PK08/164 Re: (fax) Re: fax headphone listeners/Adham Shaikh ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 18:05:47 -0000 From: "Richard" Subject: Re: (fax) Re: fax headphone listeners I find a lot of music is better on headphones. I don't know why, it just seems to be that way. The Dark Side series sounds better on headphones, as does From Within (the first one, especially 'A Million Miles To Earth') I remember reading a cover note to a fax cd recommending to 'listen loud'. Rich - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lxacoustics" To: "fax list" Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 5:53 PM Subject: (fax) Re: fax headphone listeners > Hi, > > i recently listened to broadway 1/2/3 on headphones for the 1st > time and noticed a whole new world or stuff i hadnt heard on my stereo.It > made me wonder if this wasnt mixed ' for ' headphones or with them in mind > ,I also wondered / noticed this with alot of tetsu inoues stuff. Do many of > you listen to this stuff with headphones?seems to unlock some of these cds , > on low volumn with a stereo system late at night i find you can miss half > of whats going on in there?still sounds cool but nothing like on > headphones.I dont find this with all cds .Do many of you use headphones? > > cheers, > > matt > > > > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 19:00:51 -0000 From: "Lxacoustics" Subject: Re: (fax) Re: fax headphone listeners Hi, i find beaty stuff is often better loud or loses all sense of purpose low, i guess it goes without saying , but i find mellow and subtle stuff with very subliminal levels on some stuff and which have been mixed with a more ' immersive experience in mind ' is best at quite a low level.I think mellow stuff can be totally ruined by being played loud , not always but ive always found the more mellow it is , the better it sounds lower? maybe just me and my system.i also find this with headphones .Try setting the headphone level quite low , there seems to be a sweet spot where the mix comes alive or sounds relative to your head space and makes you feel like your ' in there ' .... maybe thats just me:) to loud and you lose it - again though , i find alot of deep stuff sounds great loud on headphones but not as good as when your listening to it low which gives more of a sense of distance . . the result seems to be that you throw your attention that much further outside of yourself as the sounds seem further away ( as levels are lower) .Ok i'm drifting. there is a sweet spot for headphone listening , is variable though ......i like wide open spaces , really one think i love about some fax stuff and broadway series in particular . cheers, matt I remember reading a cover note to a fax cd recommending to 'listen loud'. > > Rich > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lxacoustics" > To: "fax list" > Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 5:53 PM > Subject: (fax) Re: fax headphone listeners > > > > Hi, > > > > i recently listened to broadway 1/2/3 on headphones for the 1st > > time and noticed a whole new world or stuff i hadnt heard on my > stereo.It > > made me wonder if this wasnt mixed ' for ' headphones or with them in mind > > ,I also wondered / noticed this with alot of tetsu inoues stuff. Do many > of > > you listen to this stuff with headphones?seems to unlock some of these cds > , > > on low volumn with a stereo system late at night i find you can miss half > > of whats going on in there?still sounds cool but nothing like on > > headphones.I dont find this with all cds .Do many of you use headphones? > > > > cheers, > > > > matt > > > > > > > > > > --- > > + To post: ; to mail a person: > > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 20:36:20 +0100 From: "msg_matucana" Subject: Re: (fax) Re: fax headphone listeners Hi Matt, > i recently listened to broadway 1/2/3 on headphones for the 1st > time and noticed a whole new world or stuff i hadnt heard on my stereo.It > made me wonder if this wasnt mixed ' for ' headphones or with them in mind > ,I also wondered / noticed this with alot of tetsu inoues stuff. Do many of > you listen to this stuff with headphones?seems to unlock some of these cds , > on low volumn with a stereo system late at night i find you can miss half > of whats going on in there?still sounds cool but nothing like on > headphones.I dont find this with all cds .Do many of you use headphones? Fax records are surely worthwhile listening on headphones. The most significant expereinece for me was the first track of the "Modula Green" CD, just awesome how many details are on this single piece of music. "Shades of Orion 2" is good, too. "Syn 2". "Kooler". I suppose the Y&T releases are. On the other hand, I would not listen to "Ozoona" or "Atom" on headphones - semms not appropriate to me. Although not Fax - I do listen to other labels ;-)) - I tried both my Susumu Yokota CDs "Magic thread" and "Sakura". Absolutely horrible. How subtle those records are on the speakers, I just cannot stand them on headphones. Just my 0.02 worth, Hellmuth ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 09:13:06 +1100 From: "Sebastian Pucilowski" Subject: RE: (fax) Re: fax headphone listeners > .Ok i'm drifting. there is a sweet spot for headphone listening , is variable though ......i like wide open spaces , really one think i love about some fax stuff and broadway series in particular . I just had a great experience overnight with 'Adham Shaik - Journey to the Sun'. Great stuff that works really well with a loud headphone set. Anyone else agree? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 15:15:58 -0800 (PST) From: John Whitney Subject: RE: (fax) Re: fax headphone listeners/Adham Shaikh & the new Spyra - --- Sebastian Pucilowski wrote: > I just had a great experience overnight with 'Adham > Shaik - Journey to > the Sun'. Great stuff that works really well with a > loud headphone set. > Anyone else agree? Yes, and it's a shame we don't see more CDs from this artist like 'Journey to the Sun.' 'Drift' is very cool too (its tinny over-processed chorus-effected guitar by Tim Floyd is a little too 80s-lite for me, but I can live with it). I listened to clips of Adham's 'new' release (comprised of old material: 50 copies limited edition on Interchill) -- it sounded too familiar, like tired backpacker/'90s techno -- just my opinion, sorry. I guess I was hoping I would find a 'Journey to the Sun Part II' but nothing else sounds like 'Journey to the Sun' It's an amazing CD. Sitar, liquid beats, interesting and unique-sounding dreamy, aquatic production and evocative field recordings from India... Does anyone know if there are any other releases by Adham Shaikh that are closer to the sound of 'Journey to the Sun' or even 'Drift'? It seems like Adham hasn't really released much material in the last 8 years that sounds like these two standouts. I've tried a couple dj Cheb i Sabbah discs and they don't have that immediate out of nowhere, otherworldly sound that the Shaikh discs do. Adham, make another masterpiece! We want more! By the way, Invisible Fields is good. The first track is kind of goofy, but it's energizing and funny with it's computer voices. I really love 'Bath': a great long experimental track that pushes the CD over the top for me. Did anyone go to any war protests today? John W. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 13:57:58 -0000 From: "Lxacoustics" Subject: Re: (fax) Re: fax headphone listeners/Adham Shaikh & the new Spyra Hi, > > Yes, and it's a shame we don't see more CDs from this > artist like 'Journey to the Sun.' 'Drift' is very > cool too (its tinny over-processed chorus-effected > guitar by Tim Floyd is a little too 80s-lite for me, > but I can live with it). I listened to clips of > Adham's 'new' release (comprised of old material: 50 > copies limited edition on Interchill) -- it sounded > too familiar, like tired backpacker/'90s techno -- > just my opinion, sorry. is this the album Essence ? > find a 'Journey to the Sun Part II' but nothing else > sounds like 'Journey to the Sun' It's an amazing CD. > Sitar, liquid beats, interesting and unique-sounding > dreamy, aquatic production and evocative field > recordings from India... it is a classic ..... 1st as ekko / ?on interchill also has some lovely moments. > Does anyone know if there are any other releases by > Adham Shaikh that are closer to the sound of 'Journey > to the Sun' or even 'Drift'? It seems like Adham > hasn't really released much material in the last 8 > years that sounds like these two standouts. I've > tried a couple dj Cheb i Sabbah discs and they don't > have that immediate out of nowhere, otherworldly sound > that the Shaikh discs do. Adham, make another > masterpiece! We want more! well , i know he's working on a dubsonic album and as i;m not so into dub but more stuff like the instinct styles .I think dub sonic is pretty much like the other newer stuff, ethnic samples and a focus on using 'real ' instrumentation and vocal takes and stuff but dubsonic is actually adhams band and again , i dont think has the openess and beatless spaces. >> Did anyone go to any war protests today? > John W. we were 300 miles away from london but there in spirit , 1-2 million did in uk ..... cheers, matt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 13:41:37 -0000 From: "Lxacoustics" Subject: Re: (fax) Re: fax headphone listeners hi, > Fax records are surely worthwhile listening on headphones. The most > significant > expereinece for me was the first track of the "Modula Green" CD, just > awesome > how many details are on this single piece of music. "Shades of Orion 2" is > good, too. > "Syn 2". "Kooler". I suppose the Y&T releases are. On the other hand, I > would not > listen to "Ozoona" or "Atom" on headphones - semms not appropriate to me. yeah , find this with some stuff. , i think you can here those that were mixed on headphones or using headphones as reference alot. > CDs "Magic thread" and "Sakura". Absolutely horrible. How subtle those > records > are on the speakers, I just cannot stand them on headphones. yeah , strangely i found a siniliar thing with another of yokota's , i think this indicates they were mixed or referenced on speakers only , sometimes on headphones these type of mixes sound very dodgy.Headphone mixing is much harder as it shows more up...but can also show more of the intricacy i guess....its all in the ear of the beholder though. Must try modular green on headphones! cheers, matt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 12:12:45 EST From: Shellground@aol.com Subject: (fax) eBay bargain : PK08/164 on ebay with just a few hours to go ... Move D / Namlook 7 - brand new!! Currently just 4.80 UK pounds (c$7.50) No reserve / low shipping ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 09:13:38 -0800 (PST) From: ambient Subject: Re: (fax) Re: fax headphone listeners/Adham Shaikh wow, you boys are WAY off topic here. i'm reporting you to daddy warren! not even an OT in your subject header! Sebastian Pucilowski" John Whitney Lxacoustics if you are looking for more Adham Shaikh music, look for one of his first recordings; Realighment - Modulation Elekronic 1993 it is on ebay if you are looking; http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2509344161 - --- Lxacoustics wrote: > > Does anyone know if there are any other releases by > > Adham Shaikh that are closer to the sound of 'Journey > > to the Sun' or even 'Drift'? It seems like Adham > > well , i know he's working on a dubsonic album and as i;m > > >> Did anyone go to any war protests today? > > John W. > we were 300 miles away from london but there in spirit , > 1-2 million did in > uk ..... > > cheers, > > matt > war protests? hmmmm? ? :-) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of faxlist-digest V2003 #32 ******************************* --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org