From: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org (faxlist-digest) To: faxlist-digest@monkey.org Subject: faxlist-digest V2003 #33 Reply-To: faxlist@2350.org Sender: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Errors-To: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Precedence: bulk faxlist-digest Tuesday, February 18 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 033 (fax) FA Bedroom (PS08/62) and others (fax) New Releases Re: (fax) New Releases RE: (fax) New Releases Re: (fax) New Releases RE: (fax) New Releases Re: (fax) New Releases (fax) FAX on eBay; DSOTM IX Re: (fax) Old Releases Re: (fax) Old Releases (fax) fax rare Re: (fax) Old Releases Re: (fax) Old Releases ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 20:51:51 -0000 From: "David Calvert" Subject: (fax) FA Bedroom (PS08/62) and others *** one day to go *** Daniel Pemberton - Bedroom (PS08/62) http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1577&item=250716828 0 Other stuff, including a couple of excellent CD's from Jonah Sharp's Reflective label as well ... check out http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&user id=dakota.boo@pop3.hiway.co.uk&include=0&since=1&sort=2&rows=25 Thanks, e-mail: dakota.boo@pop3.hiway.co.uk web page: http://home.hiway.co.uk/boo ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 12:10:16 -0000 From: Richard Hughes Subject: (fax) New Releases Was wondering if anyone has heard any of the new releases yet (ps08/99, ps08/100) and has any thoughts? I ordered a copy of each this morning together with the MP3 Silence comp. They all sound quite promising from the press releases, but do they live up to the hype? Guess I'll I find out in a few days.. *************************************************************************** The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee and access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken, or omitted to be taken, in reliance on it is prohibited and may be unlawful. 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Costs 25 Euros from CUE Records, 1CD. (Where I ordered mine). I also shared some of your same fears, fortunately my DVD player also plays MP3 cd's and is hooked up to a fairly decent amp, so perhaps there is hope.. Will keep you posted. - -----Original Message----- From: Lxacoustics [mailto:lxacoustics@btopenworld.com] Sent: 18 February 2003 14:40 To: fax list Subject: Re: (fax) New Releases Hi all, regards this > MP3 Silence comp. what quality will Mp3 be? always a bit afraid that something of that analogueness will be lost in the process ? is this paranoia ? has anyone any idea how much the mp3 set will be ?is it on 1 cd?cheers, matt - --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax + www.2350.org *************************************************************************** The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. 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I also shared some of your same fears, > fortunately my DVD player also plays MP3 cd's and is hooked up to a fairly > decent amp, so perhaps there is hope.. Will keep you posted. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lxacoustics [mailto:lxacoustics@btopenworld.com] > Sent: 18 February 2003 14:40 > To: fax list > Subject: Re: (fax) New Releases > > > Hi all, > > regards this > > > > MP3 Silence comp. > > what quality will Mp3 be? always a bit afraid that something of that > analogueness will be lost in the process ? is this paranoia ? has anyone any > idea how much the mp3 set will be ?is it on 1 cd?cheers, > > matt > > > > > > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax > + www.2350.org > *************************************************************************** > The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. > It is intended solely for the addressee and access to this email by anyone > else is unauthorised. 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That's what Joerg told me a couple of weeks ago. Not just sublabel, but also PK/PW/PS and RI. Regards, Richard - -----Original Message----- From: Lxacoustics [mailto:lxacoustics@btopenworld.com] Sent: 18 February 2003 15:04 To: fax list Subject: Re: (fax) New Releases Cheers for info , not bad value i guess. is it also true c.u.e have decided to not sell sublabel stuff they have left on there page?only via auction? cheers, matt > It is apparently recorded between 256 and 320 kbits. Costs 25 Euros > from CUE > Records, 1CD. (Where I ordered mine). I also shared some of your same fears, > fortunately my DVD player also plays MP3 cd's and is hooked up to a > fairly decent amp, so perhaps there is hope.. Will keep you posted. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lxacoustics [mailto:lxacoustics@btopenworld.com] > Sent: 18 February 2003 14:40 > To: fax list > Subject: Re: (fax) New Releases > > > Hi all, > > regards this > > > > MP3 Silence comp. > > what quality will Mp3 be? always a bit afraid that something of that > analogueness will be lost in the process ? is this paranoia ? has > anyone any > idea how much the mp3 set will be ?is it on 1 cd?cheers, > > matt > > > > > > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax > + www.2350.org > *************************************************************************** > The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. > It is intended solely for the addressee and access to this email by > anyone else is unauthorised. 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When addressed to our clients, any opinions or advice contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing client contract. **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 14:42:53 -0000 From: "Lxacoustics" Subject: Re: (fax) New Releases Does this mean genuine people after the music to listen to rather than as a sales commodity will have to compete against each other for the right to buy and listen to via ebay? and is this being done as the stocks are down 2 one or 2 or just because they fancy making more out of the people buying the music?and hyping rarety of fax and fax in general ? i'm interested to know how others feel about this?i had hoped to buy a few from c.u.e , not listen to rather than re-sell on ebay , is it c.u.e who wants to make more out of fax music lovers?or is it namlook asking c,u,e to do this?do you all think this is fair or just greedy. I think i'm a bit confused...........1st the deleted stock is actually available amd being sat on and now this? no offence to c.u.e or namlook but i do hope this isnt as selfish a move as it looks.This is why labels and music industry is having a hard time..........and why people copy and burn and download. cheers, matt > >>is it also true c.u.e have decided to not sell sublabel stuff they have > left on there page?only via auction? > > That's what Joerg told me a couple of weeks ago. Not just sublabel, but also > PK/PW/PS and RI. > > Regards, > > Richard > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lxacoustics [mailto:lxacoustics@btopenworld.com] > Sent: 18 February 2003 15:04 > To: fax list > Subject: Re: (fax) New Releases > > > Cheers for info , not bad value i guess. > > is it also true c.u.e have decided to not sell sublabel stuff they have > left on there page?only via auction? > > cheers, > > matt > > > > > > It is apparently recorded between 256 and 320 kbits. Costs 25 Euros > > from > CUE > > Records, 1CD. (Where I ordered mine). I also shared some of your same > fears, > > fortunately my DVD player also plays MP3 cd's and is hooked up to a > > fairly decent amp, so perhaps there is hope.. Will keep you posted. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Lxacoustics [mailto:lxacoustics@btopenworld.com] > > Sent: 18 February 2003 14:40 > > To: fax list > > Subject: Re: (fax) New Releases > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > regards this > > > > > > > MP3 Silence comp. > > > > what quality will Mp3 be? always a bit afraid that something of that > > analogueness will be lost in the process ? is this paranoia ? has > > anyone > any > > idea how much the mp3 set will be ?is it on 1 cd?cheers, > > > > matt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > + To post: ; to mail a person: > > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax > > + www.2350.org > > > *************************************************************************** > > The information in this email is confidential and may be legally > privileged. > > It is intended solely for the addressee and access to this email by > > anyone else is unauthorised. 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How long do you suppose it will be til X comes out, and I wonder if that will be where they decide to stop the series and start something new? Although I'm sure there are a few other Floyd titles they can twist to fit ;) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 17:35:51 -0000 From: "Lxacoustics" Subject: Re: (fax) Old Releases Hi, i guess its all par for the course as they and most would try and get as much for this stuff as they possibly would , who ever said business or running a label was meant to be about fairness or being happy to get a profit that was acceptable.Strange thing is it alienates me a little and i start to wonder if i want to buy when this is the kind of game being played.I much prefer to support labels / artists that sell there cds for a fair price and are happy to do so rather than pricing up and sitting on stock.Maybe its me but i think fairs fair and labels and distributers make enough without having to artificially delete stock or make out its scarcer than it is / unavailable and then make people compete for it.This isnt what fax music is about is it?i thought it was all a bit more broadminded than this?I fully understand rare stuff that IS deleted and only in the hands of collectors etc being auctioned.I cant understand how namlook could be happy with this being the case in relation to stock c.u.e has.If they want to clear stocks then why not advertise on the site and sell to people?Well hopefully someone will enlighten me so it doesnt look like fax and / or cue are being manipulative in relation to the music lovers who buy there cds?Sorry if its heavy.I think the kind of approach cue has taken is misleading ?am i wrong?why would you say cds are sold out then sit of them and sell at 4 x the money? Not a great light to cast on fax or cue and apologies for this , i'm simply a guy who would like to buy some still available stock cds at retail rather than diliberately inflated prices.I'm sure someone will tell me i'm wrong about this and its commerce and alls fair in love and war but as i music lover and cd collector i support this kind of thing in the music industry.They make a good enough living and dont need to mislead people and make people sell there soul for a copy of a cd they have in multiplies. What a sad state of affairs.I thin k i'll wait for a copy of the mp3 to appear on the web , cause and effect i guess. cheers, matt > >>Does this mean genuine people after the music to listen to rather than as > a sales commodity will have to compete against each other for the right to > buy and listen to via ebay? > > I have to say I sympathise, I only learnt of this change in policy as like > you I had enquired about purchasing a couple of discs that I knew full well > he had in stock (Gamma, Fires of Ork and Compilation 1). I was then left > somewhat surprised by his response that they would be on ebay "from time to > time". Low and behold a few days later he did indeed sell these amongst > other things on ebay. > > I have bought quite a few titles from them over the years (and from DJ Criss > when he was running the distribution before that) and I didn't mind paying > over the odds prices, as I knew at least a good proportion of that went back > to Fax themselves (or so I had been told) and was happy to support the > label. I don't know if this is still the case with items sold over Ebay. > > I see that they would like to maybe get rid of these stocks that have been > sitting around for ten years or so fairly quickly and would like to make as > much money as possible as they do so, but whether this is the real > motivation or not I don't know... > > Like you I am also increasingly frustrated that I have to compete with > several other people, or waste time keeping an eye on an auction that > finishes in the middle of the night every time I may wish to own some of the > Fax titles I am currently missing. Then again perhaps I'm just being > selfish.. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lxacoustics [mailto:lxacoustics@btopenworld.com] > Sent: 18 February 2003 15:43 > To: fax list > Subject: Re: (fax) New Releases > > > Does this mean genuine people after the music to listen to rather than as a > sales commodity will have to compete against each other for the right to buy > and listen to via ebay? and is this being done as the stocks are down 2 one > or 2 or just because they fancy making more out of the people buying the > music?and hyping rarety of fax and fax in general ? i'm interested to know > how others feel about this?i had hoped to buy a few from c.u.e , not listen > to rather than re-sell on ebay , is it c.u.e who wants to make more out of > fax music lovers?or is it namlook asking c,u,e to do this?do you all think > this is fair or just greedy. I think i'm a bit confused...........1st the > deleted stock is actually available amd being sat on and now this? no > offence to c.u.e or namlook but i do hope this isnt as selfish a move as it > looks.This is why labels and music industry is having a hard > time..........and why people copy and burn and download. > > cheers, > > matt > > > > > > >>is it also true c.u.e have decided to not sell sublabel stuff they > > >>have > > left on there page?only via auction? > > > > That's what Joerg told me a couple of weeks ago. Not just sublabel, > > but > also > > PK/PW/PS and RI. > > > > Regards, > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Lxacoustics [mailto:lxacoustics@btopenworld.com] > > Sent: 18 February 2003 15:04 > > To: fax list > > Subject: Re: (fax) New Releases > > > > > > Cheers for info , not bad value i guess. > > > > is it also true c.u.e have decided to not sell sublabel stuff they > > have left on there page?only via auction? > > > > cheers, > > > > matt > > > > > > > > > > > It is apparently recorded between 256 and 320 kbits. Costs 25 Euros > > > from > > CUE > > > Records, 1CD. (Where I ordered mine). I also shared some of your > > > same > > fears, > > > fortunately my DVD player also plays MP3 cd's and is hooked up to a > > > fairly decent amp, so perhaps there is hope.. Will keep you posted. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Lxacoustics [mailto:lxacoustics@btopenworld.com] > > > Sent: 18 February 2003 14:40 > > > To: fax list > > > Subject: Re: (fax) New Releases > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > regards this > > > > > > > > > > MP3 Silence comp. > > > > > > what quality will Mp3 be? always a bit afraid that something of that > > > analogueness will be lost in the process ? is this paranoia ? has > > > anyone > > any > > > idea how much the mp3 set will be ?is it on 1 cd?cheers, > > > > > > matt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > + To post: ; to mail a person: > > > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > > > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax > > > + www.2350.org > > > > > > *************************************************************************** > > > The information in this email is confidential and may be legally > > privileged. > > > It is intended solely for the addressee and access to this email by > > > anyone else is unauthorised. 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If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, > copying, distribution or any action taken, or omitted to be taken, in > reliance on it is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to our > clients, any opinions or advice contained in this email are subject to the > terms and conditions expressed in the governing client contract. > **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 17:42:58 +0000 From: Paul Milligan Subject: Re: (fax) Old Releases Have people misunderstood, or have I? My understanding was that CUE are no longer selling titles which are effectively out-of-print (the "contact us, we may have a copy left" titles... or words to that effect) not those which are still listed on EMC ... which still includes many older Sub Label releases. Many of those oops are no more expensive on eBay anyway, with the obvious exclusion of the seriously 'holy grail' titles ... but CUE doesn't have these either. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 10:03:52 -0800 (PST) From: Maurice Green Subject: (fax) fax rare Which are the Holy Grail titles on Fax Mo. _____________________________________________________________ Get your Royston Vasey email address ---> http://www.roystonvasey.co.uk/ _____________________________________________________________ Select your own custom email address for FREE! Get you@yourchoice.com w/No Ads, 6MB, POP & more! http://www.everyone.net/selectmail?campaign=tag ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 19:09:05 +0100 From: "Richard Hughes" Subject: Re: (fax) Old Releases > My understanding was that CUE are no longer selling titles > which are effectively out-of-print (the "contact us, we may > have a copy left" titles... or words to that effect) Correct. This is what I was led to believe from Joerg. But be aware = that for a lot of these titles they had quite a few more than one copy = left and never advertised this fact for years. Anyway I've given up = caring anymore, I'm sorry I started this discussion again. It's just a = sign of the times I suppose and we should accept the fact that as time = passes the chance of buying anything but the latest titles through = normal retail channels will become increasingly the norm..=20 - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Paul Milligan" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 6:42 PM Subject: Re: (fax) Old Releases > Have people misunderstood, or have I? >=20 > My understanding was that CUE are no longer selling titles > which are effectively out-of-print (the "contact us, we may > have a copy left" titles... or words to that effect) not > those which are still listed on EMC ... which still includes > many older Sub Label releases. >=20 > Many of those oops are no more expensive on eBay anyway, with > the obvious exclusion of the seriously 'holy grail' titles > ... but CUE doesn't have these either. >=20 >=20 > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: = > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org >=20 > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:15:56 -0000 From: "Lxacoustics" Subject: Re: (fax) Old Releases Hi, i may have misunderstood a little but i'm still not sure why cue would have copies of gamma and fires of ork left and not be selling them via normal method but sitting on them? cheers, matt ps.I did originally assume you meant all sublabel stuff still on cue was now auction only...my mistake.......my mail was in reference to not advertising available copies of titles like fires of ork , which has done nothing but help inflate the prices on places like ebay .Of course this does help make fax into an even more 'sort after 'label as people think titles are rarer than they actually are.I take your point that some fax titles are cheaper on ebay at times.My point was really all about sales methods and what makes distributers not want to sell multiply copies of stuff .Was it commen knowledge that cue had copies of gamma and fires of ork for sale for more money?i wonder how people knew about this.I'm glad i didnt pay 200$ like gamma / fires of ork like some have on ebay whilst fax main distributer in europe is sitting on copies they could quite easily sell for a 'fair' price.I guess the question is why should they sell for a fair price?when they can get loads more on ebay ?i guess the answer is the question itself.I dont moan about ebay or prices for truely deleted stock , only whats still in stock but out of stock deliberately to escalate prices.Suits cue and maybe namlook though.........or is namlook selling these titles for 7 euro whilst cue cashes in.??who told cue tom raise the prices to 60 euro?I guess thats there business...sorry for another moan.I guess most of you have alot of the titles so dont mind.I dont like buying music off labels or stores i feel are reeling me in.Maybe i'm jaded today.I wont mention this again in case its o.t.No offence directed at anyone.People do what they have to to make money. cheers, matt > Hi, > > i guess its all par for the course as they and most would try and > get as much for this stuff as they possibly would , who ever said business > or running a label was meant to be about fairness or being happy to get a > profit that was acceptable.Strange thing is it alienates me a little and i > start to wonder if i want to buy when this is the kind of game being > played.I much prefer to support labels / artists that sell there cds for a > fair price and are happy to do so > rather than pricing up and sitting on stock.Maybe its me but i think fairs > fair and labels and distributers make enough without having to artificially > delete stock or make out its scarcer than it is / unavailable and then make > people compete for it.This isnt what fax music is about is it?i thought it > was all a bit more broadminded than this?I fully understand rare stuff that > IS deleted and only in the hands of collectors etc being auctioned.I cant > understand how namlook could be happy with this being the case in relation > to stock c.u.e has.If they want to clear stocks then why not advertise on > the site and sell to people?Well hopefully someone will enlighten me so it > doesnt look like fax and / or cue are being manipulative in relation to the > music lovers who buy there cds?Sorry if its heavy.I think the kind of > approach cue has taken is misleading ?am i wrong?why would you say cds are > sold out then sit of them and sell at 4 x the money? > > Not a great light to cast on fax or cue and apologies for this , i'm simply > a guy who would like to buy some still available stock cds at retail rather > than diliberately inflated prices.I'm sure someone will tell me i'm wrong > about this and its commerce and alls fair in love and war but as i music > lover and cd collector i support this kind of thing in the music > industry.They make a good enough living and dont need to mislead people and > make people sell there soul for a copy of a cd they have in multiplies. > > What a sad state of affairs.I thin k i'll wait for a copy of the mp3 to > appear on the web , cause and effect i guess. > > cheers, > > matt > > > > > > >>Does this mean genuine people after the music to listen to rather than > as > > a sales commodity will have to compete against each other for the right to > > buy and listen to via ebay? > > > > I have to say I sympathise, I only learnt of this change in policy as like > > you I had enquired about purchasing a couple of discs that I knew full > well > > he had in stock (Gamma, Fires of Ork and Compilation 1). I was then left > > somewhat surprised by his response that they would be on ebay "from time > to > > time". Low and behold a few days later he did indeed sell these amongst > > other things on ebay. > > > > I have bought quite a few titles from them over the years (and from DJ > Criss > > when he was running the distribution before that) and I didn't mind paying > > over the odds prices, as I knew at least a good proportion of that went > back > > to Fax themselves (or so I had been told) and was happy to support the > > label. I don't know if this is still the case with items sold over Ebay. > > > > I see that they would like to maybe get rid of these stocks that have been > > sitting around for ten years or so fairly quickly and would like to make > as > > much money as possible as they do so, but whether this is the real > > motivation or not I don't know... > > > > Like you I am also increasingly frustrated that I have to compete with > > several other people, or waste time keeping an eye on an auction that > > finishes in the middle of the night every time I may wish to own some of > the > > Fax titles I am currently missing. Then again perhaps I'm just being > > selfish.. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Lxacoustics [mailto:lxacoustics@btopenworld.com] > > Sent: 18 February 2003 15:43 > > To: fax list > > Subject: Re: (fax) New Releases > > > > > > Does this mean genuine people after the music to listen to rather than as > a > > sales commodity will have to compete against each other for the right to > buy > > and listen to via ebay? and is this being done as the stocks are down 2 > one > > or 2 or just because they fancy making more out of the people buying the > > music?and hyping rarety of fax and fax in general ? i'm interested to know > > how others feel about this?i had hoped to buy a few from c.u.e , not > listen > > to rather than re-sell on ebay , is it c.u.e who wants to make more out > of > > fax music lovers?or is it namlook asking c,u,e to do this?do you all think > > this is fair or just greedy. I think i'm a bit confused...........1st the > > deleted stock is actually available amd being sat on and now this? no > > offence to c.u.e or namlook but i do hope this isnt as selfish a move as > it > > looks.This is why labels and music industry is having a hard > > time..........and why people copy and burn and download. > > > > cheers, > > > > matt > > > > > > > > > > > >>is it also true c.u.e have decided to not sell sublabel stuff they > > > >>have > > > left on there page?only via auction? > > > > > > That's what Joerg told me a couple of weeks ago. Not just sublabel, > > > but > > also > > > PK/PW/PS and RI. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Lxacoustics [mailto:lxacoustics@btopenworld.com] > > > Sent: 18 February 2003 15:04 > > > To: fax list > > > Subject: Re: (fax) New Releases > > > > > > > > > Cheers for info , not bad value i guess. > > > > > > is it also true c.u.e have decided to not sell sublabel stuff they > > > have left on there page?only via auction? > > > > > > cheers, > > > > > > matt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is apparently recorded between 256 and 320 kbits. Costs 25 Euros > > > > from > > > CUE > > > > Records, 1CD. (Where I ordered mine). I also shared some of your > > > > same > > > fears, > > > > fortunately my DVD player also plays MP3 cd's and is hooked up to a > > > > fairly decent amp, so perhaps there is hope.. Will keep you posted. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Lxacoustics [mailto:lxacoustics@btopenworld.com] > > > > Sent: 18 February 2003 14:40 > > > > To: fax list > > > > Subject: Re: (fax) New Releases > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > regards this > > > > > > > > > > > > > MP3 Silence comp. > > > > > > > > what quality will Mp3 be? always a bit afraid that something of that > > > > analogueness will be lost in the process ? is this paranoia ? has > > > > anyone > > > any > > > > idea how much the mp3 set will be ?is it on 1 cd?cheers, > > > > > > > > matt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > + To post: ; to mail a person: > > > > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > > > > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax > > > > + www.2350.org > > > > > > > > > > *************************************************************************** > > > > The information in this email is confidential and may be legally > > > privileged. > > > > It is intended solely for the addressee and access to this email by > > > > anyone else is unauthorised. 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