From: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org (faxlist-digest) To: faxlist-digest@monkey.org Subject: faxlist-digest V2003 #63 Reply-To: faxlist@2350.org Sender: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Errors-To: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Precedence: bulk faxlist-digest Sunday, April 6 2003 Volume 2003 : Number 063 Re: (fax) Who else out there isn't into the whole idea of Fax MP3 CDs? (fax) Who else out there isn't into the whole idea of Fax MP3 CDs? (fax) Who else out there isn't into the whole idea of Fax MP3 CDs? (fax) Anyway, Back to the Music - Anthony Rother has a new home! Re: (fax) WENN MAN KREIG Re: (fax) Who else out there isn't into the whole idea of Fax MP3 CDs? (fax) Who's just into FAX releasing music? MP3 CDs MD? anything, OK :-D (fax) f/s ebay LOTS OF FAX + more Re: (fax) Who else out there isn't into the whole idea of Fax MP3 CDs? Re: (fax) Who else out there isn't into the whole idea of Fax MP3 CDs? Re: (fax) Who else out there isn't into the whole idea of Fax MP3 CDs? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 05:03:13 -0800 (PST) From: ambient Subject: Re: (fax) Who else out there isn't into the whole idea of Fax MP3 CDs? both this thread and the two of you are getting old. my 20 year old girlfriend has an i-pod, mac and adsl connection to the internet. she doesn't play cds, they are only a means of delivery. - --- Stephen Philips wrote: > > >Paul Milligan wrote: > >I want something I can play in my Discman, or a regular > >ole jambox, or my CD player by the bed. Maybe I'm ust > >getting old > > they've done the mp3 thing with Emusic, why issue CDs > >with mp3s? > > > > > --- Stephen Philips wrote: > I think you are right, or why would they be using this > tagline > > >-10 Years of Silence- the first Ambient/Chill-Out MP3 CD > worldwide ! > > Congradulations! FAX won. They get the wilkey button. > They were the > first to issue a chill-out mp3 CD, and world-wide too. i sense some jealosy mr. phillips. and don't you know what silence on cd back in 1992 was the first for being, or did you miss that? ahhhh, who am i kidding you don't know....so here it is; Silence via FAX was the first recording/label in Germany as a and to release a full length ambient cd. ,scoUt __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 05:10:35 -0800 (PST) From: ambient Subject: (fax) Who else out there isn't into the whole idea of Fax MP3 CDs? yes, and for you to say that it is a gimmick is just silly when he and his label already get attention for what they do. on a side thought.... the Y&T label lasted only 3 releases! the mp3cd has 3 mentioned titles... and does seem to compete with the AW releases???? personally, i would like to have seen Silence 1-5 on MD as well. (or any new fax on MD for that matter) in compressed mode...you can fit 4-5 cds on a MD without losing cd quality... ,scoUt - --- Lxacoustics wrote: > covenient = gimmick ?=Creativity = productivity = > packaged = compressed / > compiled / compact / consumn /compete /compare / nothing > odd in being > different.They said leonardo de-vinci was odd and that > the world was flat:) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Milligan" > > Paul. > > > > PS. I thought Warren's arguments were extremely well > > put but, I still perceive the exercise as a gimmick. > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 05:18:29 -0800 (PST) From: ambient Subject: (fax) Who else out there isn't into the whole idea of Fax MP3 CDs? > --- Stephen Philips wrote: > I think you are right, or why would they be using this > tagline > > >-10 Years of Silence- the first Ambient/Chill-Out MP3 CD > worldwide ! > > Congradulations! FAX won. They get the wilkey button. > They were the > first to issue a chill-out mp3 CD, and world-wide too. i sense some jealosy mr. phillips. and don't you know what silence on cd back in 1992 was the first for being, or did you miss that? ahhhh, who am i kidding you don't know....so here it is; Silence via FAX was the first recording/label in Germany as a and to release a full length ambient cd. ,scoUt __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 05:24:18 -0800 (PST) From: ambient Subject: (fax) Anyway, Back to the Music - Anthony Rother has a new home! New to the Fax family, i picked up two vinyl of Anthony Rother from 1998 and 2002. i am looking forward to these as i am very pleased with Elixir. ,scoUt __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 06:42:24 -0800 (PST) From: ambient Subject: Re: (fax) WENN MAN KREIG andre, were you smoking a little something when you wrote this. :-D ,scoUt - --- "andre@sansserif.com.au" wrote: > > Drop Bush and grab Namlook and join the 'Coalition of the > Chilling' > > > peace.out. > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2003 10:15:44 -0500 (EST) From: alucas@telerama.com Subject: Re: (fax) Who else out there isn't into the whole idea of Fax MP3 CDs? Quoting ambient : > personally, i would like to have seen Silence 1-5 on MD as > well. > (or any new fax on MD for that matter) > in compressed mode...you can fit 4-5 cds on a MD without > losing cd quality... > > ,scoUt > actually, this couldn't be further from the truth. in SP mode (80 minutes), MD tracks are equivalent to mp3s encoded at @292kbps, and the sound is pretty close to CD quality. In LP2 mode (160 minutes) they are done @132kbps. the sound is still pretty good, especially if you're using it as a portable application. at LP4, the bitrate is only 66kbps, and it's also encoded in joint stereo, which means that that it's not really stereo, just kinda hacked. the sound here is comparative to an audio cassette, and most things that i've read say that LP4 is best suited for audio books and the like. i have a minidisc with MDLP, and i use LP2 for everything, because i take it with me to work or outside or whatever, so if i lose a little sound quality, it's no big deal. i'm working or walking or skating or whatever. but i would never hook up my MD to my stereo to listen to tracks encoded in LP2 or less, and i imagine fax fans would freak if they heard fax stuff in LP4 mode. the only possible choice would be MDs done in SP mode, because that's the lowest compression, but i think there are fewer people who'd want minidiscs than mp3s. for more info about MDLP and minidiscs, check out http://www.minidisc.org, although it appears to be down right now. later, alan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 07:16:55 -0800 (PST) From: ambient Subject: (fax) Who's just into FAX releasing music? MP3 CDs MD? anything, OK :-D > Quoting ambient : > > personally, i would like to have seen Silence 1-5 on MD > > (or any new fax on MD for that matter) - --- alucas@telerama.com wrote: > actually, this couldn't be further from the truth. in SP > mode (80 minutes), MD > tracks are equivalent to mp3s encoded at @292kbps, and > the sound is pretty close > to CD quality. i've always done 1:1 copies. thanks for the correction on the 4:1 ratios. ,scoUt __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 17:35:49 -0800 From: "r2gonzalez" Subject: (fax) f/s ebay LOTS OF FAX + more I'm moving & I'm broke! All CDs start @ $9.50 (no reserve) There are some rarities in this list, so here's your chance to scoop them up quick. Thanks for your interest. Feel free to email me with any questions. Thanks. raul FAX LABEL ITEMS: 2350 Broadway - Pete Namlook & Tetsu Inoue - aw009 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2521440498 Create 2 - Pete Namlook & Charles Uzzell-Edwards - pw26 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2521442654 Octopus - Charles Uzzell-Edwards - ps 08/79 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2521444109 The Whole Traffic - Dr.Atmo & The Basalt Boys - ps 08/39 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2521445654 AMP II - Pete Namlook & Dandy Jack - pk 08/129 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2521453758 Recurring Dreams of the Urban Myth - Chris Meloche - ps 08/54 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2521455218 Vrs-Mbnt-Pcs 9598 II - Jochem Paap - ps 08/96 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2521456485 Sferics - Wolfram der Spyra - ps 08/91 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2521461128 Etherlands - Wolfram der Spyra - ps 08/93 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2521457674 Subharmonic Mixtures - Oskar Sala - ps 08/85 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2521462192 In Starless Space - David Reeves - ps 08/74 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2521463082 OTHER ITEMS: Polar Sequences - HIA & Biosphere - Beyond 1996 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2521466549 Atom Heart Related: Halograms - The Bitniks (atom heart) - Hypnotism 1995 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2521482534 Senor Coconut - Tour de France - EP CD - Multicolor 2000 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2521484457 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 01:35:49 -0500 From: "jackthetab" Subject: Re: (fax) Who else out there isn't into the whole idea of Fax MP3 CDs? <<>> That is because this label really sucked (in my opinion). The music was very uncharacteristic of what we know as the fax label. The music was light and lacked any real definition like the fax label. Good example is Sunken Road. kunst und wahnsinn, jackthetab #####\ _ /##### #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# ##### | /_woof/ | ##### #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# #####/ ######/ \###### \##### /_______________________________________\ > yes, and for you to say that it is a gimmick is just silly > when he and his label already get attention for what they > do. > > > on a side thought.... > > the Y&T label lasted only 3 releases! > > the mp3cd has 3 mentioned titles... > and does seem to compete with the AW releases???? > > personally, i would like to have seen Silence 1-5 on MD as > well. > (or any new fax on MD for that matter) > in compressed mode...you can fit 4-5 cds on a MD without > losing cd quality... > > ,scoUt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 00:35:31 -0800 From: "sanvara" Subject: Re: (fax) Who else out there isn't into the whole idea of Fax MP3 CDs? > <<>> > > That is because this label really sucked > (in my opinion). The music was very uncharacteristic > of what we know as the fax label. The music was light > and lacked any real definition like the fax label. I don't think the music sucking had anything to do with it since for what they were the Y&T releases were well done. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 13:27:17 -0400 From: "jackthetab" Subject: Re: (fax) Who else out there isn't into the whole idea of Fax MP3 CDs? What do you mean by well done? I just did not see the connection between the FAX label, besides Pete Namlook. Incidentally, I feel that these are some of the worst releases (even worse than the Amp series). There is some chattering in Sunken Road which I tend to find annoying. There are some decent moments during this release, but it just is not my cup of tea. kunst und wahnsinn, jackthetab #####\ _ /##### #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# ##### | /_woof/ | ##### #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# #####/ ######/ \###### \##### /_______________________________________\ - ----- Original Message ----- From: "sanvara" To: "fax list" Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 4:35 AM Subject: Re: (fax) Who else out there isn't into the whole idea of Fax MP3 CDs? > > > <<>> > > > > That is because this label really sucked > > (in my opinion). The music was very uncharacteristic > > of what we know as the fax label. The music was light > > and lacked any real definition like the fax label. > > I don't think the music sucking had anything to do with it since for what > they were the Y&T releases were well done. > > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org > ------------------------------ End of faxlist-digest V2003 #63 ******************************* --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org