From: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org (faxlist-digest) To: faxlist-digest@monkey.org Subject: faxlist-digest V2004 #30 Reply-To: faxlist@2350.org Sender: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Errors-To: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Precedence: bulk faxlist-digest Tuesday, March 9 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 030 (fax) New collaborator? Re: (fax) Re: new FAX compilation ideas Re: (fax) Re: new FAX compilation ideas ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 13:51:45 +0100 From: "Martin Jones" Subject: (fax) New collaborator? New thread time! :-) I was thinking after getting the new Squarepusher album the other day that a collaboration between him and Namlook would be very interesting! (If that sounds weird then I'd like to point out that a Namlook / Hawtin collab. seemed weird before I heard the genius that is From Within!) Who would you all like to see PK work with in the future? >From: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org (faxlist-digest) >Reply-To: faxlist@2350.org >To: faxlist-digest@monkey.org >Subject: faxlist-digest V2004 #29 >Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 00:47:52 -0500 (EST) > >faxlist-digest Tuesday, March 9 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 029 > > > >(fax) pops on a *new* release! :-( >Re: (fax) Coeur Atomique confusion >Re: (fax) Coeur Atomique confusion >Re: (fax) speaking of Namlook 5 >Re: (fax) Coeur Atomique confusion >RE: (fax) speaking of Namlook 5 >Re: (fax) speaking of Namlook 5 >(fax) Transonic 2 CD misprint! >RE: (fax) Transonic 2 CD misprint! >Re: (fax) Transonic 2 CD misprint! >FW: (fax) Transonic 2 CD misprint! >(fax) FA: Pete Namlook - Hearts of Space (PK08/81) and Atom Heart - >Interactive Music (RI 027) >(fax) FAX +49-69/450464 (GERMANY): >(fax) xangadix ps 08/65 question >(fax) HIA- Colourform >Re: (fax) speaking of Namlook 5 >Re: (fax) collecting the collection >Re: (fax) Transonic 2 CD misprint! >Re: (fax) xangadix ps 08/65 question >Re: (fax) Coeur Atomique confusion >(fax) question for the hardcore collectors >(fax) FA: Pete Namlook - Sequential (PK08/73) and Escape (PK08/87) >(fax) Sequential (PK08/73) >RE: (fax) Coeur Atomique confusion >(fax) new FAX compilation ideas >Re: (fax) new FAX compilation ideas >(fax) Re: new FAX compilation ideas >Re: (fax) Coeur Atomique confusion >Re: (fax) Re: new FAX compilation ideas >Re: (fax) Re: new FAX compilation ideas >Re: (fax) Re: new FAX compilation ideas > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 12:39:00 -0600 >From: Trevor Cordes >Subject: (fax) pops on a *new* release! :-( > >I just started giving Advanced Indigo some airtime on my players and I >must admit I'm *really* liking this release. Better than my previous fave >Magic Diner amongst the recent releases! Tracks 1-3 absolutely rock. The >Dune samples are a *perfect* match. Great home listening *and* car CD! >One of the few CD's with heavy sitar use that doesn't piss me off :-) > >But... I hate to say it, but this CD is the first example I've found of a >post '95 FAX CD with (I believe) unintentional "pop/crackle" flaws. No >excuse for this now that computer editing is so cheap & easy! > >I'm listing below the ones I found in two listens (I think I found them >all). Feel free to pass them on to PK (wink wink). > >The track 10 ones are weird... so obvious that perhaps they were left in >for a reason? But so annoying and out of place, I had to clean them out. > >New Composers - Advanced Indigo >6 5:11.3245 > 5:12.2842 >10 3:36.2725 > 3:36.2828 > 3:36.2925 > 3:36.5734 > 3:36.6236 > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 13:48:57 -0500 >From: Jeff Birgbauer >Subject: Re: (fax) Coeur Atomique confusion > >i can't believe no ones knows the answer :( > > >thanks >Jeff >On Thursday, March 4, 2004, at 12:15 PM, Jeff Birgbauer wrote: > > > the cd listed this: > > Sundance (101 Mix) 6.26 > > > > the 12" lists this: > > Sundance (101 Mix) 4.37 > > > > are these the same versions and just the time mislabled on the 12? > > > > --- > > + To post: ; to mail a person: > > > > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org > > > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 13:06:03 -0600 (CST) >From: Trevor Cordes >Subject: Re: (fax) Coeur Atomique confusion > >On 5 Mar, Jeff Birgbauer wrote: > > i can't believe no ones knows the answer :( > > > >> the cd listed this: > >> Sundance (101 Mix) 6.26 > >> > >> the 12" lists this: > >> Sundance (101 Mix) 4.37 > >Did you do an actual wall-clock timing while playing the 12" version? >Try it to see if that's really the time. > >I bet they had to cut it to fit on the 12" yet had more space for the >CD. Haven't they done this before for other tracks on CD vs 12" >releases? > >Personally, I don't have any of the vinyl so I can't check. > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 14:06:48 -0500 >From: "jackthetab" >Subject: Re: (fax) speaking of Namlook 5 > >that is why you need good stereo equipment for ambient >music. good integrated amps and loudspeakers certainly >can compensate for that. > >even most of the "cheapy" equipment should come with >some sort of capacitor to filter out the dc offset >before progressing to the next stage. if you are >getting 25% there could possibly be a leak or failure >of the capacitor(s). > >kunst und wahnsinn, > jackthetab > > #####\ _ /##### > #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# > ##### | /_woof/ | ##### > #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# > # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # > #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# > #####/ ######/ \###### \##### > /___ http://www.capital.net/~soylent ___\ > > >- ----- Original Message ----- >From: "Trevor Cordes" >To: >Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 1:30 PM >Subject: (fax) speaking of Namlook 5 > > > > Has anyone else noticed that Namlook 5 (and a few other Namlooks that I > > can't recall right now) has a major DC offset? Goldwave reports around > > 25%, and the wave looks ugly. Most other music has a nearly 0% DC >offset. > > > > A large DC offset is hard on amps and speakers. It means a speaker must > > hold itself at a "center point" (can't remember the exact terminology) > > that is not its natural (no voltage applied) center point. It then > > oscillates around the new center. > > > > You can usually hear a DC offset being nasty to speakers just by >starting/ > > stopping playing in the middle of the track. It will pop quite loudly > > (unless your equipment compensates for it). > > > > Shame on Namlook, trying to blow up our stereo equipment! ;-) > > --- > > + To post: ; to mail a person: > > > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org > > > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 14:08:50 -0500 >From: "jackthetab" >Subject: Re: (fax) Coeur Atomique confusion > >i do not have the vinyl release of this, but >from past experiences with the vinyl versions >over the cd versions - the vinyl versions usually >are just condensed versions of which you find on >the cd. > >kunst und wahnsinn, > jackthetab > > #####\ _ /##### > #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# > ##### | /_woof/ | ##### > #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# > # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # > #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# > #####/ ######/ \###### \##### > /___ http://www.capital.net/~soylent ___\ > > >- ----- Original Message ----- >From: "Trevor Cordes" >To: >Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 2:06 PM >Subject: Re: (fax) Coeur Atomique confusion > > > > On 5 Mar, Jeff Birgbauer wrote: > > > i can't believe no ones knows the answer :( > > > > > >> the cd listed this: > > >> Sundance (101 Mix) 6.26 > > >> > > >> the 12" lists this: > > >> Sundance (101 Mix) 4.37 > > > > Did you do an actual wall-clock timing while playing the 12" version? > > Try it to see if that's really the time. > > > > I bet they had to cut it to fit on the 12" yet had more space for the > > CD. Haven't they done this before for other tracks on CD vs 12" > > releases? > > > > Personally, I don't have any of the vinyl so I can't check. > > > > --- > > + To post: ; to mail a person: > > > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org > > > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 14:09:49 -0500 >From: "Maximilien Lincourt" >Subject: RE: (fax) speaking of Namlook 5 > >I have to ask ... > >What the heck is a DC offset ? is it like living in Washington's suburbs ? > >Max. > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 14:14:15 -0500 >From: "jackthetab" >Subject: Re: (fax) speaking of Namlook 5 > >instead of me explaining it to you.....here is a fairly good definition. > >Web Definition: DC offset - DC stands for "Direct Current." A signal >whose >midpoint is skewed away from zero is said to have a DC offset; this can >result in clicks or other problems. You can use the DC Offset process in >SFX >Machine to negate a pre-existing offset. > >kunst und wahnsinn, > jackthetab > > #####\ _ /##### > #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# > ##### | /_woof/ | ##### > #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# > # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # > #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# > #####/ ######/ \###### \##### > /___ http://www.capital.net/~soylent ___\ > > >- ----- Original Message ----- >From: "Maximilien Lincourt" >To: >Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 2:09 PM >Subject: RE: (fax) speaking of Namlook 5 > > > > I have to ask ... > > > > What the heck is a DC offset ? is it like living in Washington's suburbs >? > > > > Max. > > > > > > > > --- > > + To post: ; to mail a person: > > > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org > > > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 16:19:18 -0600 >From: Trevor Cordes >Subject: (fax) Transonic 2 CD misprint! > >I just noticed that my 3 copies of Transonic 2 PS08/67 have "Downstream >Illusion" printed on the CD as opposed to the (correct) title "Virtual >Current"! The number "2" is correct. Weird! > >You'll all already know that of course Downstream Illusion is Transonic >1's title. > >Someone should start a list/FAQ of FAX pressing faux pas'! > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 16:16:13 -0700 >From: Graham Banting >Subject: RE: (fax) Transonic 2 CD misprint! > >No offence intended, but do you actually spend time enjoying FAX by >*listening* to it?! > > >===== Original Message From Trevor Cordes ===== > >I just noticed that my 3 copies of Transonic 2 PS08/67 have "Downstream > >Illusion" printed on the CD as opposed to the (correct) title "Virtual > >Current"! The number "2" is correct. Weird! > > > >You'll all already know that of course Downstream Illusion is Transonic > >1's title. > > > >Someone should start a list/FAQ of FAX pressing faux pas'! > >Graham Banting, PhD >833 Medsci >Department of Medical Genetics >Edmonton, AB >University of Alberta, Canada >780-492-1124 >gbanting@ualberta.ca > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 17:29:06 -0600 (CST) >From: Trevor Cordes >Subject: Re: (fax) Transonic 2 CD misprint! > >On 5 Mar, Graham Banting wrote: > > No offence intended, but do you actually spend time enjoying FAX by > > *listening* to it?! > >No offence taken! And no, I don't ever listen to them or enjoy them, I >just spend all my time cataloging them and finding errors and getting >ticked off! > >;-) > >Seriously though, once my cataloging and computerization of the full >collection is complete (very soon now!), I won't have much else to do >except listen and enjoy! I used to just listen & enjoy until I made the >decision to collect the entire back catalog, and that's when I found >just how full of mistakes the early releases were. > >My main goal in identifying "defects" is to create awareness that I know >will find it's way back to PK, who I hope will use it to create better >(flawless!) products in the future (like MP3 releases with the pops >cleaned). > >That said, I know I'm not the only perfectionist on this list... :-) > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 17:32:01 -0600 >From: "John Goerner" >Subject: FW: (fax) Transonic 2 CD misprint! > >You mean you can actually listen to these things? What a great idea. > >I just really liked all the circles and nifty pictures. > > >- -----Original Message----- >From: Trevor Cordes [mailto:trevor@tecnopolis.ca]=20 >Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 5:29 PM >To: faxlist@2350.org >Subject: Re: (fax) Transonic 2 CD misprint! > > >On 5 Mar, Graham Banting wrote: > > No offence intended, but do you actually spend time enjoying FAX by > > *listening* to it?! > >No offence taken! And no, I don't ever listen to them or enjoy them, I >just spend all my time cataloging them and finding errors and getting >ticked off! > >;-) > >Seriously though, once my cataloging and computerization of the full >collection is complete (very soon now!), I won't have much else to do >except listen and enjoy! I used to just listen & enjoy until I made the >decision to collect the entire back catalog, and that's when I found >just how full of mistakes the early releases were. > >My main goal in identifying "defects" is to create awareness that I know >will find it's way back to PK, who I hope will use it to create better >(flawless!) products in the future (like MP3 releases with the pops >cleaned). > >That said, I know I'm not the only perfectionist on this list... :-) > >- --- >+ To post: ; to mail a person:=20 >+ To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to=20 >+ Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax =20 >+ www.2350.org > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 23:40:14 -0000 >From: "David Calvert" >Subject: (fax) FA: Pete Namlook - Hearts of Space (PK08/81) and Atom Heart >- Interactive Music (RI 027) > >Pete Namlook - Hearts of Space (PK08/81) >http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1577&item=4000424550 > > >Atom Heart - Interactive Music (RI 027) >http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1577&item=4000424687 > > >e-mail: dakota.boo@pop3.hiway.co.uk >web page: http://home.hiway.co.uk/boo > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 19:18:34 -0700 >From: David Hodgson >Subject: (fax) FAX +49-69/450464 (GERMANY): > >Playing By Ear is shipping the new FAX releases now... >____________________________________________ >FAX +49-69/450464 (GERMANY): > >IN STOCK=SHIPPING NOW: > >$13 NAMLOOK, PETE: Music For Urban Meditation CD (PK 08/167). - limitation >1000 > > >____________________________________________ > FAX +49-69/450464 (GERMANY): > >IN STOCK=SHIPPING NOW: > >$13 STEVE STOLL: Earthling CD (PS 08/106). - limitation 1000 > > >and we're taking PRE-orders on... >____________________________________________ >FAX +49-69/450464 (GERMANY): > >coming soon=place orders now: > >$13 pp * nmlk (PETE NAMLOOK & JOCHEM PAAP) CD (PW46). - limitation 1000 > > >____________________________________________ >AMBIENT WORLD (GERMANY): > >[ FAX reissue series ] > >coming soon=place orders now: > >$13 THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOOG 7 (feat. Bill Laswell) CD (AW032). > > >to order and see the latest list contact ...David Hodgson > > >------------------------------ > >Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 02:36:05 -0500 >From: "jackthetab" >Subject: (fax) xangadix ps 08/65 question > >track one - xangadix - 7:21 >the recorded voice sample of 3rd samuel > >does anyone know who this is? > >kunst und wahnsinn, > jackthetab > > #####\ _ /##### > #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# > ##### | /_woof/ | ##### > #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# > # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # > #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# > #####/ ######/ \###### \##### > /___ http://www.capital.net/~soylent ___\ > >------------------------------ > >Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 19:35:40 +1100 >From: "electroteque" >Subject: (fax) HIA- Colourform > >Sadly, my copy is totally wasted, and i put off buying a copy too late, now >i cant find it anywhere. If anyone knows where i can get a copy lemme know. > >Dan >(need to keep up that HIA collection ;) > >------------------------------ > >Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 05:10:19 -0600 (CST) >From: Trevor Cordes >Subject: Re: (fax) speaking of Namlook 5 > >On 5 Mar, jackthetab wrote: > > that is why you need good stereo equipment for ambient > > music. good integrated amps and loudspeakers certainly > > can compensate for that. > > > > even most of the "cheapy" equipment should come with > > some sort of capacitor to filter out the dc offset > > before progressing to the next stage. if you are > > getting 25% there could possibly be a leak or failure > > of the capacitor(s). > >The 25% I was talking about was as reported by my WAVE editor software, >not any measurement I was doing on the amp/speakers. > >And you sure stereos are supposed to compensate for a DC offset? I >always thought that the ultimate goal of a stereo was to reproduce the >source sound as true as possible -- which would include a DC offset if >there was one. > >My equipment is middle-end Technics, and I definitely notice huge pops >if I stop/start Namlook 5 midstream. However, playing it through >normally you'd never notice the DC offset. That's something you >wouldn't be able to perceive anyways. > >------------------------------ > >Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 05:24:49 -0600 (CST) >From: Trevor Cordes >Subject: Re: (fax) collecting the collection > >On 5 Mar, scott8933@socal.rr.com wrote: > > Just out of curiosity, how were you able to collect the entire back >catalog? > > Did you already have most of them from buying the first-run releases, or >was > >I had a spattering of them collected as I went along. However, between >1994-1998 I was too busy and didn't collect much music, so I missed a >lot. > >It's when I saw the crazy prices on ebay that I decided to get hopping >if I ever wanted to complete my collection. I figured (so far rightly >so) that if I dno't spend the money now, it'll only cost me more in the >future. > >I started by buying up every release that Dave @ Ear-rational still had >available, because his prices were fair and I prefer to support the >"new" channel so that PK gets his due cut. > >Then it was off to ebay! I haven't added up how much all this has cost >me yet, but it's not cheap or for the faint of heart. And I'm still >about 10 titles away from completion. > >Now that it's almost done, I must say I'm glad I did it. I've >discovered a wealth of BRILLIANT releases that I probably would not have >bought if I was just picking and choosing based on reviews or artist >reputation. Sure, there's a lot of (IMHO) "duds", but in the worst case >scenario I can eventually resell those on ebay, most likely for at least >what I paid for them. One mans dud is another mans favorite! > > > it just a matter of great time and even greater expense? Or are they >still > > available now as rereleases? > >I spent tons of time on this, watching ebay carefully to make sure I get >relatively good deals. > >For reasonably priced start, contact Dave @ Ear-Rational or check out >his web site to see what's still in stock. Buy every title at once and >I'm sure he'll give you special consideration. And this way you are >supporting PK in his efforts to make more music. (I'm not affiliated >with Ear-Rational, I'm just a satisfied long-standing customer!) > >If you don't do it now, then you're guaranteed to pay more later. As >soon as a title is out of stock as "new", its price tends to double >fairly quickly on ebay, except Octopus 1! ;-) > >For titles not available new, feel free to give me a shout as I've >collected quite a few doubles over time that I wouldn't mind selling. > >------------------------------ > >Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 05:39:33 -0600 (CST) >From: Trevor Cordes >Subject: Re: (fax) Transonic 2 CD misprint! > >On 5 Mar, RLynn9@aol.com wrote: > > > > an even better question might be: what are you doing hoarding 3 copies >of > > Transonic 2 ? don't people ever feel badly about having multiple copies >of > >I'm not "hoarding" them. For the most part (including Transonic 2) my >duplicates are caused by me inadvertently buying a copy on ebay for way >too much and then seeing it again a week later for half the price. So I >buy them both! > >And I'm actually working on posting my duplicates to ebay now so someone >else can enjoy them. > >I never bought them cheap/new ($13) and hoarded them! However, I think >that someone MUST be hoarding a few releases that are limitation >1000 yet are no where to be found (on ebay or private sellers)! Octopus >2, Vrs-Ambnt 1, Waiting for Snow, etc... > > > something while there are others who would love to hear the MUSIC but >cannot afford > > the ridiculous collector's prices? > >Yes, the prices can get ridiculous, but that's simply the law of supply >and demand. Too many people chasing too few releases. PK helps a lot >by reissuing AW's and MP3's (and pay download sites) so people can still >afford to get the music. The originals will always be pricey though, >and will probably continue to rise in price. And you'll find that most >sales on ebay aren't some guy making $300 profit because he was smart >enough to buy copies at $13 10 years ago, they are people who paid $295 >2 years ago and are just looking to make their money back! > >I see nothing morally wrong with letting the market work its magic on >prices. Yes, it can leave out the poor, but it's no different than the >mechanism that dictates that the poor won't be able to afford a brand >new Cadillac STS. That's life in a free-market system. > >However, I do prefer to see PK get his proper dues, so if possible >always buy NEW from one of the FAX retailers instead of used on ebay. > >------------------------------ > >Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 07:55:53 -0600 (CST) >From: Trevor Cordes >Subject: Re: (fax) xangadix ps 08/65 question > >On 6 Mar, jackthetab wrote: > > track one - xangadix - 7:21 > > the recorded voice sample of 3rd samuel > > > > does anyone know who this is? > >Clarify for me... By listing the "7:21" you are giving us the track >time, not trying to say that's where the sample is, right? Must be... I >was a bit confused looking for a sample at 7:21 in track one only to >find it was the end! > >You must mean the sample at the beginning of that phone message thing. >What do you mean by "3rd samuel"? What the heck is that? > >Lastly, when faced with an unknown sample, the following almost always >works: goto google and type in a good (unambiguous) chunk of the sample >BETWEEN DOUBLE QUOTES. Voila! > >Of course, if that phone message is something someone left on PK's >personal machine one day (I've seen this done lots on various albums), >then chances are you'll never know the answer! > >If you figure it out, let us know! > >------------------------------ > >Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 12:18:03 -0500 >From: Jeff Birgbauer >Subject: Re: (fax) Coeur Atomique confusion > >On Friday, March 5, 2004, at 02:08 PM, jackthetab wrote: > > > i do not have the vinyl release of this, but > > from past experiences with the vinyl versions > > over the cd versions - the vinyl versions usually > > are just condensed versions of which you find on > > the cd. > > >thanks Jack > >and trevor i haven't played it see the difference because my turntable >is messed up. i need a new one > >somehow i ended up with 2 copies of this 12" i think i'll probably sell >both. one is mint the other is in good condition. i'll post the ebay >auction once i list them > >thanks >jeff > > >> > >>> the cd listed this: > >>> Sundance (101 Mix) 6.26 > >>> > >>> the 12" lists this: > >>> Sundance (101 Mix) 4.37 > >------------------------------ > >Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 16:11:29 -0500 >From: micah stupak >Subject: (fax) question for the hardcore collectors > >something i'm just curious about - > >which was the first disc that had the title written on the spine in >the fax circle font thingie? > >- --- >micah stupak >micah@benthic.cc >www.benthic.cc >benthic recordings - soundings from unexplored places > >------------------------------ > >Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 22:56:00 -0000 >From: "David Calvert" >Subject: (fax) FA: Pete Namlook - Sequential (PK08/73) and Escape (PK08/87) > >Just listed ... > >Pete Namlook/Dr Atmo - Escape (PK08/87, double) >http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1577&item=4000425553 > >Pete Namlook/DJ Criss/Tetsu Inoue - Sequential (PK08/ >http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1577&item=4000425557 > > >also a couple of original, digipack, em:t label CD's (Slim and Natural >Language) >http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&useri >d=dakota.boo&include=0&since=1&sort=2&rows=50 > > >e-mail: dakota.boo@pop3.hiway.co.uk >web page: http://home.hiway.co.uk/boo > >------------------------------ > >Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 15:22:38 +0100 >From: istenrud@broadpark.no >Subject: (fax) Sequential (PK08/73) > >Mr. Koolman reeeeeally ought to re-release SEQUENTIAL.. It's so damn good >and >only 500 copies were released 10 years ago!! >Even the trancier tracks stand the test of time, imo.. >Any chance of this happening? > >------------------------------ > >Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 08:35:44 -0000 >From: Richard Hughes >Subject: RE: (fax) Coeur Atomique confusion > >Jeff: > >I think this has come up before, but basically the CD lists the two mixes >of >Sundance the wrong way round. The second track on the CD is the RZ1 mix NOT >the 101 mix hence the track time of 6.26 whereas the last track on the CD >is >the 101 mix. The timings on the vinyl are the correct ones. > >Best, > >Rich > > > >- -----Original Message----- >From: Jeff Birgbauer [mailto:loststar@comcast.net] >Sent: 05 March 2004 19:49 >To: faxlist@2350.org >Subject: Re: (fax) Coeur Atomique confusion > > >i can't believe no ones knows the answer :( > > >thanks >Jeff >On Thursday, March 4, 2004, at 12:15 PM, Jeff Birgbauer wrote: > > > the cd listed this: > > Sundance (101 Mix) 6.26 > > > > the 12" lists this: > > Sundance (101 Mix) 4.37 > > > > are these the same versions and just the time mislabled on the 12? > > > > --- > > + To post: ; to mail a person: > > > > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to Online > > + info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org > > > >- --- >+ To post: ; to mail a person: >+ To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to >+ Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax >+ www.2350.org > > >********************************************************************** >The information in this email is confidential and may be legally >privileged. >It is intended solely for the addressee and access to this email by anyone >else is unauthorised. 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If so, what tracks would you pick to be on the compilation? >I'm primarily interested because several stores have asked for promo >compilations in order to decide if they should carry the label. I have >my own ideas, but I'd be interested in hearing from anyone out there who >has ideas on how to promote the label. > >Since we're interested in promotion, I think the only parameter I would >throw out there is that most, if not all, of the tracks should be >currently available, even if they are on reissues. So a compilation >consisting of tracks only from From Within, Hearts of Space, Sequential, >and Electro Harmonix, wouldn't be helpful. > >Feel free to email your ideas to me, and I can summarize to the list. >Or, given that traffic is low, perhaps posting to the list would be >OK...Warren? > >Dave > >------------------------------ > >Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 19:27:24 -0600 >From: Warren Lapham >Subject: Re: (fax) new FAX compilation ideas > >On Mar 8, 2004, at 5:07 PM, Dave at Fax Label USA wrote: > > > Feel free to email your ideas to me, and I can summarize to the list. > > Or, given that traffic is low, perhaps posting to the list would be > > OK...Warren? > > > >This seems totally appropriate to me. Maybe even...a good topic to >start a thread. > >w. > >------------------------------ > >Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 21:15:35 -0700 >From: "Dave @ Fax USA (EAR/Rational Music)" >Subject: (fax) Re: new FAX compilation ideas > >Warren thought it would be a good idea if I included a list of FAX CDs >that are currently available in order to make it easier to come up with >a compilation that consists predominantly of tracks that people can >still get. Note that there are CDs that are not on this list that are >still available from various online sources even though they are no >longer available through the FAX supply chain (i.e., they're no longer >available from FAX Germany or from FAX USA). I also removed several >titles that are superseded by the MP3-CDs (e.g., Jet Chamber V, >Silence, etc.) Since the MP3-CDs are available, it's fair game to >include any of the tracks from any of the included CDs. > >Dave > >MP3 001 Silence I-V MP3 >MP3 002 2350 Broadway Collection >MP3 003 Psychonavigation Collection >MP3 004 Move D/Namlook Collection >MP3 005 Jet Chamber Collection >MP3 006 Namlook Collection I > >AW 004 Dark Side of the Moog >AW 006 Dark Side of the Moog 2 >AW 008 Dark Side of the Moog 3 >AW 011 Dark Side of the Moog 4 >AW 012 Dreamfish >AW 013 Transonic >AW 015 Dark Side of the Moog 5 >AW 018 Shades of Orion >AW 020 Dreamfish 2 >AW 021 Hemisphere >AW 022 Outland >AW 023 Evolution of DSOTM >AW 024 Shades of Orion 2 >AW 025 Outland 2 >AW 026 Outland 3 >AW 026 Shades of Orion 3 >AW 028 Air III >AW 029 Dark Side of the Moog 6 >AW 030 Organic Cloud >AW 031 Air IV > >PK 08/08 A View to a Chill >PK 08/90 Namlook V >PK 08/98 Putney 2 >PK 08/100 Namlook X >PK 08/103 Kooler >PK 08/106 Koolfang 2 >PK 08/107 Atom >PK 08/109 Elektro >PK 08/126 Elektro 2 >PK 08/129 Amp 2 >PK 08/131 Hubertus Held >PK 08/138 Miles Apart >PK 08/140 Polytime >PK 08/148 Free Your Mind >PK 08/151 Possible Gardens >PK 08/152 Audiolounge >PK 08/153 Adlernebel >PK 08/155 4 Voice 3 >PK 08/156 New Organic Life >PK 08/159 New Organic Life II >PK 08/164 Home Shopping >PK 08/165 Virtual Vices IV >PK 08/166 New Organic Life III >PK 08/167 Music for Urban Meditation > >PS 08/45 Sad World 2 >PS 08/47 Gate/Sol >PS 08/52 A Day in the Park >PS 08/54 Recurring Dreams of the Urban Myth >PS 08/55 Whole Traffic 2 >PS 08/58 Aerial Service Area >PS 08/59 Xjacks >PS 08/60 Otras >PS 08/62 Bedroom >PS 08/63 Solitaire >PS 08/64 UVOII >PS 08/65 Xangadix >PS 08/67 Transonic 2 >PS 08/68 Otras 2 >PS 08/69 Wireless >PS 08/70 MS Series >PS 08/71 Solphax >PS 08/72 Aerial Service Area 2 >PS 08/73 Xangadix 2 >PS 08/74 In Starless Space >PS 08/75 Modula Green >PS 08/76 My Fascinating Instrument >PS 08/77 Fanger & Siebert >PS 08/79 Octopus >PS 08/82 Sad World 3 >PS 08/89 Octopus 3 >PS 08/90 Drum Machine Circle - Dada >PS 08/91 Sferics >PS 08/96 Vrs Mbnt Pcs 95-98 II >PS 08/97 Audio >PS 08/98 Invisible Fields >PS 08/99 Stardust >PS 08/100 Elixir of Life >PS 08/101 Eisblumen >PS 08/102 Was Here >PS 08/103 Advanced Indigo >PS 08/104 Magic Diner >PS 08/105 Pop for Dwoozle >PS 08/106 Earthling > >PW 14 Alien Community 2 >PW 15 Create >PW 18 A New Consciousness 2 >PW 38 Planetarium >PW 42 Planetarium 2 > >SEA 04 Autumn > >Y-T 2 Wandering Soul >Y-T 3 Sunken Road > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 00:07:29 -0500 >From: Jeff Birgbauer >Subject: Re: (fax) Coeur Atomique confusion > >thanks Rich > > > > I think this has come up before, but basically the CD lists the two > > mixes of > > Sundance the wrong way round. The second track on the CD is the RZ1 > > mix NOT > > the 101 mix hence the track time of 6.26 whereas the last track on the > > CD is > > the 101 mix. The timings on the vinyl are the correct ones. > > > >cool i can sell both my copies > >thanks >jeff > >------------------------------ > >Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 23:29:43 -0600 (CST) >From: Trevor Cordes >Subject: Re: (fax) Re: new FAX compilation ideas > >On 8 Mar, Dave @ Fax USA (EAR/Rational Music) wrote: > > Warren thought it would be a good idea if I included a list of FAX CDs > > that are currently available in order to make it easier to come up with > > a compilation that consists predominantly of tracks that people can > >I'll have to go through the list later to form my opinions ;-) > >One thing I immediately thought of though: how about doing 2 categories >(ie: 2 separate compilations), one that is "accessible" music and the >other for "non-accessible". For instance, Adlernebel, 4 Voice 3, much >of Move D/Nam, much of VV, etc, would be what I'd call "accessible". >Accessible is stuff that people not into the scene would be able to >listen to and like. > >Non-accessible (but still good) would be most early DSotM, some Shades, >most of the Namlook series, and most of the pure ambient stuff. > >Also, I don't think you'd be too successful putting out the >experimental/harsh stuff (Putney 2 and Octopus X please stand up) onto >sampler comps. > >After all, how many of us here were drawn into FAX in the first place by >the 1993 accessible trance releases? > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 00:43:30 EST >From: Riouxs@aol.com >Subject: Re: (fax) Re: new FAX compilation ideas > > > After all, how many of us here were drawn into FAX in the first place by > > the 1993 accessible trance releases? > >Not really. It was finding the extremely available and accesible Instinct >FAX comps. 1 & 2 that got me started. > >Jason > >ps - While I'm writing...I'm looking for a copy of 62 Eulengasse. Anybody >with an extra for sale or for trade? > >------------------------------ > >Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 23:47:44 -0600 (CST) >From: Trevor Cordes >Subject: Re: (fax) Re: new FAX compilation ideas > >On 9 Mar, Riouxs@aol.com wrote: > > > > > >> After all, how many of us here were drawn into FAX in the first place >by > >> the 1993 accessible trance releases? > > > > Not really. It was finding the extremely available and accesible >Instinct > > FAX comps. 1 & 2 that got me started. > >OK, that makes sense too. Like my statement, yours also contains the >"accessible" aspect. The Instinct FAX stuff was mostly the >(semi-)accessible Air 1+2, SW 1+2, and less so AC 1+2. And I guess >you're right... my 3rd FAX CD ever was the Instinct Compilation 1 2CD. >Kisy Loa (and Biotrip, and...) really blew me away back then (still >does!) :-) > >Bottom line... try to hook people with the accessible, then they'll be >curious to try out the rest. > >------------------------------ > >End of faxlist-digest V2004 #29 >******************************* > >--- >+ To post: ; to mail a person: >+ To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to >+ Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 15:07:49 -0500 From: MuzikJunky Subject: Re: (fax) Re: new FAX compilation ideas > Not really. It was finding the extremely available and accesible > Instinct > FAX comps. 1 & 2 that got me started. For me, it was hearing "Traveling without Moving," all of "Air II," on the "Hearts of Space" radio show, which airs on NPR in the USA. I was floored. Peace. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 15:11:22 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: (fax) Re: new FAX compilation ideas In a message dated 3/9/04 2:08:00 PM Central Standard Time, MuzikJunky@earthlink.net writes: > > Not really. It was finding the extremely available and accesible > > Instinct > > FAX comps. 1 & 2 that got me started. > > For me, it was hearing "Traveling without Moving," all of "Air II," on > the "Hearts of Space" radio show, which airs on NPR in the USA. I was > floored. Peace. > Hearts of Space has it's moments doesn't it? ....a couple weeks back they aired the new Lisa Gerrard album.....i've heard everything from Biosphere to Robert Rich to Aphex Twin to Harold Budd and Brian Eno to Michael Brook on that show.... sometimes it's a little too new agey for my tastes but a nice show nonetheless... i wish it were longer than 1 hour though... RL ------------------------------ End of faxlist-digest V2004 #30 ******************************* --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org