From: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org (faxlist-digest) To: faxlist-digest@monkey.org Subject: faxlist-digest V2004 #38 Reply-To: faxlist@2350.org Sender: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Errors-To: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Precedence: bulk faxlist-digest Friday, April 9 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 038 Re: (fax) Top fives x3 (fax) for your listening pleasure... Re: (fax) Top fives x3 re: (fax) Top fives x3 (fax) the first one??? Re: (fax) the first one??? Re: (fax) the first one??? Re: (fax) the first one??? (fax) Top Fives (fax) Russian bootleg RE: (fax) Russian bootleg RE: (fax) Russian bootleg Re: (fax) the first one??? Re: (fax) Tetsu Inoue/San Francisco Re: (fax) Why? (x2) (fax) 2350 (fax) Top fives x3 / Question (fax) FA: Pete Namlook - Air 2 (PK08/85) and Atom Heart - Silver Sound 60 (RI 031) RE: (fax) Russian bootleg (fax) interesting quote from victor sol Re: (fax) interesting quote from victor sol Re: (fax) 2350 has slowed to 350 Re: (fax) 2350 has slowed to 350 Re: (fax) 2350 has slowed to 350 Re: (fax) 2350 has slowed to 350 Re: (fax) 2350 has slowed to 350 Re: (fax) 2350 has slowed to 350 (fax) more fax gems listed today! Re: (fax) Top fives x3 Re: (fax) 2350 has slowed to 350 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 17:10:28 -0600 From: Christian von Ompteda Subject: Re: (fax) Top fives x3 At 05:22 PM 4/7/2004 +0200, Martin Jones wrote: >What are your top five releases on each of the three Fax labels...I'm >still thinking about mine :-) In no particular order... cheers, Christian. np: pp-nmlk PK: Silence V Air II Shades of Orion 2 Silence IV Possible Gardens PW: Sultan SHADO 2 Planetarium 2 Fires of Ork 2 Psychonavigation 5 PS: Octopus 2 Audio Recurring Dream of the Urban Myth In starless space Magic Diner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 20:28:14 -0400 From: Subject: (fax) for your listening pleasure... Hello Friends, Check out these fax classics up for grabs on eBay, including works by Namlook, Dr. Atmo and Oliver Lieb, Various Artists of The Ambient Cookbook, Namlook and Laswell, Namlook and Bobby Bird, Namlook and David Moufang. http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOthe rItems&userid=organicnavel&include=0&since=-1&sort =3&rows=50 Good luck and Bid often, Mark [organicnavel] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 21:15:34 -0400 From: MuzikJunky Subject: Re: (fax) Top fives x3 >> What are your top five releases on each of the three Fax labels...I'm >> still thinking about mine :-) By series (assume that I have copies of all the titles in a given series).... PK: Air Silence Season's Greetings Music for Ballet Syn PW: 2350 Broadway Shades of Orion The Fires of Ork Time Squared Ozoona PS: Aerial Service Area Otras Bedroom Sad World Cymatic Scan Electro Harmonix (Hey, I had to list 6!) Most of my faves are on the sub-label--too many for the restraints of this list! ;) Peace. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 01:53:29 -0400 From: "jackthetab" Subject: re: (fax) Top fives x3 these are my picks for today - main label - pk - - The Putney - PK 08/76 - - Namlook III - PK 08/88 - - The Dark Side of the Moog IX - PK 08/163 - - Silence V - PK 08/157 - - Limelight - PK 08/82 world label - pw - - Alien Community 2 - PW 14 - - From Within - PW 11 - - Ozoona - PW 30 - - Create - PW 15 - - Psychonavigation - PW 13 sublabel - ps (can't name just 5) - - Jochem Paap - Vrs-Mbnt-Pcs 9598 I - PS 08/94 - - Spyra - Invisible Fields - PS 08/98 - - Spyra - Etherlands - PS 08/93 - - The MS-Series - PS 08/70 - - Electro Harmonix - PS 08/51 - - Namlook IV - PK 08/89 kunst und wahnsinn, jackthetab #####\ _ /##### #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# ##### | /_woof/ | ##### #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# #####/ ######/ \###### \##### /_______________________________________\ die Intensität eines Automobilunfalles, ist einfach erstaunlich. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 04:33:42 -0500 From: Trevor Cordes Subject: (fax) the first one??? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4006325833 Are the Russian pirates finally discovering FAX?? Or is this legit? I've certainly never seen anything like it. And I can't really figure out if this is an MP3 CD or what (91 tracks?). Any clues? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 02:42:43 -0700 From: "sanvara" Subject: Re: (fax) the first one??? That sure looks like a bootleg Russian MP3 CD to me. > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4006325833 > > Are the Russian pirates finally discovering FAX?? Or is this legit? I've > certainly never seen anything like it. And I can't really figure out if > this is an MP3 CD or what (91 tracks?). > > Any clues? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 05:17:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Trevor Cordes Subject: Re: (fax) the first one??? On 8 Apr, sanvara wrote: > That sure looks like a bootleg Russian MP3 CD to me. If it is, Dave @ Ear-R, please contact PK and have him tell ebay to shut these guys down. It would really suck if these things start sprouting up all over the place. >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4006325833 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 08:07:33 -0400 From: Alan R Lucas Subject: Re: (fax) the first one??? Not that there's anything really "amusing" about this, but it is kind of funny that they've not done a very good job of even making this thing look slightly legit. I love how it's a "Pete Namlook" compilation, but the first three albums are sublabels. And of course, Fax isn't mentioned at all. I looked at the person's other auctions, and of course, they're all the same type of thing. I hope that Pete does contact eBay and get these jokers shut down, even if only for a little while. - -Alan Quoting sanvara : > That sure looks like a bootleg Russian MP3 CD to me. > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4006325833 > > > > Are the Russian pirates finally discovering FAX?? Or is this legit? I've > > certainly never seen anything like it. And I can't really figure out if > > this is an MP3 CD or what (91 tracks?). > > > > Any clues? > > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 08:11:19 -0500 (CDT) From: brian@lists.frickster.net Subject: (fax) Top Fives Here are my top fives, in no particular order. Don't assume I have all the releases, as I don't. I'm missing a good 50 of them still :) PK - - Sequential - - Syn - - The Dark Side Of The Moog VI - - Miles Apart - - Move D/Namlook V- Wired PW - - From Within II - - Ozoona - - Planetarium - - The Fires Of Ork II - - Outland II PS - - Sad World - - The Whole Traffic - - Xangadix - - The MS Series - - Otras II I agree, most of my favorites are in the Sublabel PS. I generally like the more trancey stuff, and while that's more of the output at the early stages of the label and I don't have as much of it as I'd like, I am definitely more into that. On a whole, the FAX label has very few disappointing releases in my opinion. I dig the whole experimental music idea, and am generally open to new music on any of the the three "segments" of the label. - -=brian=- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 07:23:03 -0600 From: "Dave @ Fax Label USA" Subject: (fax) Russian bootleg > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4006325833 I've informed Namlook about this and expect it to be shut down. Not only is it a bootleg, but consistent with bootleggers, the guy will only accept cash or western union payments so that he cannot be identified. I've contacted ebay as well, and I've asked that he be banned from ebay. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 23:30:12 +1000 From: "electroteque" Subject: RE: (fax) Russian bootleg $11.50 give the guy a break > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-faxlist@2350.org [mailto:owner-faxlist@2350.org]On Behalf Of > Dave @ Fax Label USA > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:23 PM > To: faxlist@2350.org > Subject: (fax) Russian bootleg > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4006325833 > > I've informed Namlook about this and expect it to be shut down. > > Not only is it a bootleg, but consistent with bootleggers, the guy will > only accept cash or western union payments so that he cannot be > identified. > > I've contacted ebay as well, and I've asked that he be banned from ebay. > > Dave > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 11:12:11 -0400 From: Alan R Lucas Subject: RE: (fax) Russian bootleg I'm guessing the means you're only kidding. I don't care if the guy only got $2.00 for them. He's still abusing the system, ripping off the artists, and deceiving buyers who may not be as well informed about this kind of thing. - -Alan Quoting electroteque : > $11.50 give the guy a break > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-faxlist@2350.org [mailto:owner-faxlist@2350.org]On Behalf Of > > Dave @ Fax Label USA > > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:23 PM > > To: faxlist@2350.org > > Subject: (fax) Russian bootleg > > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4006325833 > > > > I've informed Namlook about this and expect it to be shut down. > > > > Not only is it a bootleg, but consistent with bootleggers, the guy will > > only accept cash or western union payments so that he cannot be > > identified. > > > > I've contacted ebay as well, and I've asked that he be banned from ebay. > > > > Dave > > > > --- > > + To post: ; to mail a person: > > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 19:06:23 +0100 From: "richard" Subject: Re: (fax) the first one??? but if you do look at the picture carefully enough, you'll see scanned Fax covers... Rich - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan R Lucas" To: Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 1:07 PM Subject: Re: (fax) the first one??? And of course, Fax isn't mentioned at all. - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.648 / Virus Database: 415 - Release Date: 31/03/2004 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 13:42:45 -0600 (MDT) From: wallace winfrey Subject: Re: (fax) Tetsu Inoue/San Francisco On Tue, 6 Apr 2004, Mark Lachman wrote: > Thanks for posting the Tetsu interview. I was > interested to see he's been living in San Francisco. I > see S.F. in some Namlook titles and elsewhere, but is > there a very strong electronic music scene there? > Anyone know? I think I heard or read somewhere on the internet once that there is ;-) w ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 18:22:41 -0500 (CDT) From: Trevor Cordes Subject: Re: (fax) Why? (x2) On 6 Apr, Martin Jones wrote: > Why have the new releases got barcodes on them? Some legal matter? No takers on answering your questions yet? OK... The barcodes are probably for wider acceptance in mainstream music stores. Plus they'll help make it easier to identify the albums (ie: ebay's new barcode CD entry scheme). > And why aren't the PW releases preceded by 08/ like the mains and the subs? > This one's really got me stumped... :-/ That's a *good* question. Probably on PK knows ;-) Of course, this also begs the question: what the heck is the 08/ there for in the first place? What does it signify? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 00:04:10 -0600 From: "Graham Banting" Subject: (fax) 2350 What's up with 2350.org? It has not been updated for some time. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 13:20:08 +0200 From: "Martin Jones" Subject: (fax) Top fives x3 / Question After much deliberation, my three, which'll probably change tomorrow, are... Main 1 Escape 2 Sequential 3 Replugged 4 Silence 5 Limelight Sub 1 MS-Series 2 Music To Films 3 Modula Green 4 Ambiant Otaku 5 Sad World 2 / Waiting For Snow World 1 From Within 2 Shades Of Orion 3 Wechselspannung 4 Fires Of Ork 5 Dreamfish I haven't got all the releases yet, so this is just from those I know...which leads me to another question, does anyone out there have every single Fax release ever?? _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 12:39:08 +0100 From: "David Calvert" Subject: (fax) FA: Pete Namlook - Air 2 (PK08/85) and Atom Heart - Silver Sound 60 (RI 031) Just listed ... Pete Namlook - Air 2 (PK08/85, Fax label original) http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1577&item=4006020888 Atom Heart - Silver Sound 60 (RI 031) http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1577&item=4006020919 e-mail: dakota.boo@pop3.hiway.co.uk web page: http://home.hiway.co.uk/boo ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 11:58:44 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stephen Philips" Subject: RE: (fax) Russian bootleg Yeah, looks like he's releasing his own set of MP3 discs. Maybe we can talk HIM into releasing some of the old-school fax techno stuff ;-) Kidding. But from the look of it, he's selling more then just Fax. Got some Biosphere in there, Hector Zazou, etc. Along these lines, there some discussion going on over on the Hypnos forum about the recent influx of Russian bootleg CDs... ~~~~~~~~ Last winter I stumbled into an ethical dilemma involving ambient music that could have had serious repercussions, in fact, inactivity is as monumental as acting. This is primarily directed to the recording artists but of course, I am interested in what all of you have to say about this. My wife visits her family in Russia every year. Last time she was there she had told me, somewhat excitedly, about her introduction to the ambient music community in Moscow. She had told me about their fascination with the proliferation of ambient music here in the west and how they hungered for more information about artists. Last winter I went with her to Moscow for three weeks; I brought thirty or forty releases with me (by request) to introduce them to new artists. They were very excited upon learning that I had a ambient show on the radio in my city. I met several leaders of the ambient music community including a DJ who had a ambient show late at night on Russian FM radio. They invited me to attend their musical gatherings, excited at the prospect of hearing new music. To put it simple, their meetings were quite impressive, on a grass root style. The many individuals there held listening parties where people would bring their collections and played specific cuts for the group to enjoy. Material by Roach, Rich, Obmana, Biosphere, etc. floated from room to room as listeners added favorable opinions on the artists they were listening to. Such devotion to our field (or any musical field for that matter) is admirable indeed. So far so good eh? Then the trading began, multiple copies of cds exchanged hands. By the hundreds. The next morning I was taken to the largest cd/electronics store I have ever seen in my life called Gorbushka market (http://www.cdi.org/russia/johnson/6596-12.cfm). To my shock I saw hundreds, if not thousands of ambient/spacemusic releases by artists in the field. Every one an illegal copy. For example, I saw dozens upon dozens of "Stalker" by Rich/Lustmord. What tipped me off to this? After all, the copies were immaculate from the reproduction of the covers to the cds themselves; you could not tell they were forgeries except for this one small mistake: on every stalker album there was a song title that was misspelled. They were factory produced, by the hundreds. Other artists such as Steve Roach, Biosphere, and even extremely rare Rapoon releases are available in large quantities, all illegally produced, not by an individual, but by illicit factories. All the cds were between two and three dollars. It then dawned on me that I could not let them borrow the albums I had with me for a couple of days as requested. To do so meant a loss of revenue to the artists (obviously), as well as expanding that particular artists work into a multiplicity of markets. He gains thousands of fans but not a single penny. I even kept them from the DJ who ran the program on Russian radio for fear he was in on the racket. As of recent, the Russian government has put into effect an unheralded crackdown on the illicit trade (http://www.nsda.net/home.asp?artId=1290). The downside to this? Most Russians, if not the vast majority, cannot afford the prices that legally released cds command (15 dollars). Now the music is drying up, availability is cut down as it is not profitable to sell such high priced cds. The Steve Roach cds that many bought for three dollars is now fifteen. I talked to Richard Roberts (Zero Ohms) the other day and asked him this question: Would you rather keep your releases out of the Russian market or would you allow the pirating to spread your material, giving you exposure you would never had realized by not allowing any of your material to be available there in the first place? If you are an artist, what would you do? The Russians in the ambient community would argue that they cannot afford such prices now that the crackdown is in effect, that they should be allowed to make multiple copies of the material to keep the fragile movement alive; for if the mass (but illegal) reproductions stop, then they cannot afford the music, therefore the movement dies. If the movement dies, then all of this is a mute point. I believe I was right in keeping the material out of their hands, but I am not a recording artist who makes ambient/electronic music. So, as an artist, what would you have? Exposure, though illicitly gained, or no musical presence there at all? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ :-:-:-:-:-:-: Stephen Philips Dark Duck Records http://www.darkduck.net Drone Download Project | http://www.darkduck.net/drone.htm Dissonance Records [guitar::noise::experimental::shoegazer] | http://www.dissonancerecords.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 13:54:50 -0400 From: "jackthetab" Subject: (fax) interesting quote from victor sol interesting line within the cd jacket. "hi pete, hope you'll enjoy it! fax me the way to the next ambient bar" - 1994 hypnotism records whether he meant pete namlook or not, it still makes for a nice quote. kunst und wahnsinn, jackthetab #####\ _ /##### #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# ##### | /_woof/ | ##### #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# #####/ ######/ \###### \##### /_______________________________________\ die Intensität eines Automobilunfalles, ist einfach erstaunlich. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 14:12:31 -0400 From: Alan R Lucas Subject: Re: (fax) interesting quote from victor sol Also possibly a take on The Doors "Alabama Song", where the verse goes "Show me the way to the next whiskey bar". - -Alan Quoting jackthetab : > interesting line within the cd jacket. > > "hi pete, hope you'll enjoy it! fax me the way to the next ambient bar" - > 1994 hypnotism records > > whether he meant pete namlook or not, it still makes > for a nice quote. > > kunst und wahnsinn, > jackthetab > > #####\ _ /##### > #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# > ##### | /_woof/ | ##### > #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# > # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # > #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# > #####/ ######/ \###### \##### > /_______________________________________\ > die Intensität eines Automobilunfalles, > ist einfach erstaunlich. > > > > > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 12:01:23 -0700 (PDT) From: inSPACE Subject: Re: (fax) 2350 has slowed to 350 Graham Banting wrote: > What's up with 2350.org? It has not been updated > for some time. the two owners don`t seem to care about fax nor for the site anymore. it seemed sort of evident when the one sold many of his rare originals. whether they say that they have other things to do in life, there deep interest here has dwindled. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 12:11:44 -0700 (PDT) From: John Whitney Subject: Re: (fax) 2350 has slowed to 350 hmmmm... are they getting reviews and just not having time to post them -- or are people just not submitting the reviews? that elixer of life cd has been sitting up on the front page forever. there's no mention of the new move d, anthony rother or namlook/paap CDs... whatever, they were doing a nice service for everyone... definitely a labor of love. too bad they fell away from it. although it's weird, because i remember a big flurry of activity not too long ago getting all the vinyl 12-in. stuff up there. i noticed the fax real audio jukebox page hasn't been working for a while too. john - --- inSPACE wrote: > Graham Banting wrote: > > What's up with 2350.org? It has not been updated > > for some time. > > the two owners don`t seem to care about fax nor for > the site anymore. > > it seemed sort of evident when the one sold many of > his rare originals. > > whether they say that they have other things to do > in > life, there deep interest here has dwindled. > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway > http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/ > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 15:12:19 -0400 From: theREALmxyzptlk Subject: Re: (fax) 2350 has slowed to 350 Whoa. Don't you think you're assuming a bit much by answering "for" Stuart and Warren? Not everyone has equal amounts of time on their hands and certainly just because someone sells some of their records (which, being acquainted with both persons in question, is not a new thing, nor does it indicate anyone"doesn't care about Fax anymore") isn't a pogo stick for conclusion-jumping. I'm deeply interested in a lot of things in life, but that doesn't mean I forget about my wife, my job, my education and having pursuits in the meantime. Life is complex enough in my own shoes. Can't see the point in deciding what goes on in someone else's. jeff At 03:01 PM 4/9/2004, inSPACE wrote: >Graham Banting wrote: > > What's up with 2350.org? It has not been updated > > for some time. > >the two owners don`t seem to care about fax nor for >the site anymore. > >it seemed sort of evident when the one sold many of >his rare originals. > >whether they say that they have other things to do in >life, there deep interest here has dwindled. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 14:15:51 -0500 From: Brian Subject: Re: (fax) 2350 has slowed to 350 No matter what, it's an invaluable resource. I thank Warren and Stuart both for their work in making that THE resource I turn to when I need FAX information. No matter what the reason for the slow pace of the site, it's not our place to complain about it. Now, Dave on the other hand should be yelling at me to get my butt moving on my project for him :D Peace. - -Brian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 12:29:22 -0700 (PDT) From: John Whitney Subject: Re: (fax) 2350 has slowed to 350 sorry, hope i didn't sound like i was complaining... i love the site, i was just saying that it's a shame it's not as active lately -- but yes, i agree it's an invaluable resource. john - --- Brian wrote: > No matter what, it's an invaluable resource. I > thank Warren and Stuart both > for their work in making that THE resource I turn to > when I need FAX > information. > > No matter what the reason for the slow pace of the > site, it's not our place > to complain about it. > > Now, Dave on the other hand should be yelling at me > to get my butt moving on > my project for him :D > > Peace. > > -Brian > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 13:00:39 -0700 From: "sanvara" Subject: Re: (fax) 2350 has slowed to 350 Maybe they can get a volunteer from this list to help update the site if they don't have the time. > No matter what, it's an invaluable resource. I thank Warren and Stuart both > for their work in making that THE resource I turn to when I need FAX > information. > > No matter what the reason for the slow pace of the site, it's not our place > to complain about it. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 16:07:54 EDT From: Organicnavel@aol.com Subject: (fax) more fax gems listed today! Hello everyone, Interface your mind with these additional elektro gems listed on eBay today. http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=organicnave l&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50 PW 11, PW 33, PS 08/63 and PK08/125 [sealed]. Mark [organicnavel] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 16:17:22 EDT From: Organicnavel@aol.com Subject: Re: (fax) Top fives x3 A tough question that I will attempt to answer off the top of my head. In no particular order....... PW PK PS Shades of Orion Silence Recurring Dreams of Urban Myth Dreamfish A Day In The Live! I.F. Sultan Namlook IV Ambiant Otaku Outland 2 Elektro DADA 2350 Broadway Air 2 Sad World I also listen to Ambient Cookbooks 1 & 2 and Ambient Comp 2 quite alot. The last fax cd that I played was Jet Chamber 2. Of the newer releases I am into Advanced Indigo and Magic Diner. I haven't heard the most recent 4 cds yet! I think if you asked me the same question next week you'll get some different answers. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 19:45:56 -0400 From: Warren Lapham Subject: Re: (fax) 2350 has slowed to 350 On Apr 9, 2004, at 3:01 PM, inSPACE wrote: > the two owners don`t seem to care about fax nor for > the site anymore. > > it seemed sort of evident when the one sold many of > his rare originals. > > whether they say that they have other things to do in > life, there deep interest here has dwindled. Stewart and I don't owe anyone for an explanation for the state of the site. But we've gotten a lot of questions lately, some public, some private, here goes: For over six years, he and I have worked on the site, pro bono. I think it's absolutely ridiculous for anyone to complain when the site goes out of date by a few months. Especially when those months have been fairly tumultuous, for both of us. Beyond that, I think I'd just repeat what Jeff said. As I told Graham privately after his original message, my schedule will be clearing up later this month, so I should be able to work in all the updates then. In the meantime, I would like to invite anyone who needs information about recent releases to look at the http://hyperreal.org/fax/ (the official FAX site), or the faxlist archives if it's reviews that you are looking for. As for the RealAudio stream, that has been hosted on another server that we do not have control over. Thanks for your interest. And a special thanks to those who "get it." Warren ------------------------------ End of faxlist-digest V2004 #38 ******************************* --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org