From: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org (faxlist-digest) To: faxlist-digest@monkey.org Subject: faxlist-digest V2004 #74 Reply-To: faxlist@2350.org Sender: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Errors-To: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Precedence: bulk faxlist-digest Wednesday, October 20 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 074 Re: (fax) Something I'd like to share... (fax) FA: Syn (PK08/95), Whole Traffic (PS08/39), Sultan (PW27) (fax) redeye - time-frame-anarchy (fax) glitch - inerta - first thoughts Re: (fax) Something I'd like to share... Re: (fax) Something I'd like to share... (fax) Music shopping in London Re: (fax) Music shopping in London (fax) New Recommendations? Re: (fax) New Recommendations? Re: (fax) New Recommendations? Re: (fax) New Recommendations? Re: (fax) New Recommendations? RE: (fax) Music shopping in London Re: (fax) New Recommendations? Re: (fax) New Recommendations? Re: (fax) New Recommendations? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 19:58:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Trevor Cordes Subject: Re: (fax) Something I'd like to share... On 15 Oct, Paul Milligan wrote: > A week or so back I acquired one of their VERY early releases - Zeit (72) > which was obviously put together some time before they even broke into the > UK and US markets. I'm still semi-big into TD... I have 95% of their releases from Phaedra to present. I had Zeit in the mid-90's but ditched it with Alpha and Atem. Way to krautrock, spacey, experimental, unstructured for me. Although I must say that Zeit was the best of the pre-Phaedra 3. I think the lack of the omnipresent strong TD melodies turned me off at the time. Maybe if I try again now I might feel different? Definitely also check out Green Desert, which was made in the Phaedra era but not released till the 80's! IMHO it's one of the best albums real spacey/wandering but still some nice melodies and some great Franke drum play. And I have to plug my all-time fave: Exit, which I think is the last Franke. Ya, definitely off-topic but I'd wager most people here have liked TD at one point in time at least. And hey, both TD and Namlook are based in Germany, and K.Schulze don't forget was ex-TD ;-) Which explains why the DSotM's sound just like some early TD stuff. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 21:52:42 +0100 From: "David Calvert" Subject: (fax) FA: Syn (PK08/95), Whole Traffic (PS08/39), Sultan (PW27) Just listed ... PETE NAMLOOK - SYN (FAX PK08/95) RARE 2 x CD http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1577&item=4044823633 DR ATMO - The Whole Traffic (FAX PS08/39, NAMLOOK) RARE http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1577&item=4044824103 PETE NAMLOOK/BURHAN OCAL - Sultan (FAX PW27) RARE http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1577&item=4044824424 e-mail: dakota.boo@pop3.hiway.co.uk web page: http://boo.hiway.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 00:32:56 -0400 From: "jackthetab" Subject: (fax) redeye - time-frame-anarchy 1993 - after 6am label. this is a good disc. ambient and trance. some of the beats sound dated, after all this is 1993. very unique stereo sounds fill the room. some nice beats and melodies. oddly refreshing melody in track five. i find this disc more enjoyable than his fax release. kunst und wahnsinn, jackthetab #####\ _ /##### #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# ##### | /_woof/ | ##### #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# #####/ ######/ \###### \##### /_______________________________________\ die Intensität eines Automobilunfalles, ist einfach erstaunlich. http://jackthetab.org ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 01:36:39 -0400 From: "jackthetab" Subject: (fax) glitch - inerta - first thoughts old skool techno trance and even some hardcore. dated sounding beats, but strange enough to attract your attention and keep it. simple basslines highlighted with swift catchy melodies. hard beat oriented for the early 90's. early fax at its best. No303oN, electra rising are quite cool. kunst und wahnsinn, jackthetab #####\ _ /##### #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# ##### | /_woof/ | ##### #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# #####/ ######/ \###### \##### /_______________________________________\ die Intensität eines Automobilunfalles, ist einfach erstaunlich. http://jackthetab.org ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 09:37:15 +0100 From: Paul Milligan Subject: Re: (fax) Something I'd like to share... on 16/10/2004 1:58 am, Trevor Cordes at trevor@tecnopolis.ca wrote: > I had Zeit in the mid-90's but ditched it with Alpha and Atem. Way too > krautrock, spacey, experimental, unstructured for me. This sort of reflects why some on here might like it, hence the recommendation. BY "unstructured" of course the reference is to an absence of melody and beats, which came later. "Experimental" also implies difficult which Zeit isn't imho. Personally I always felt TD's best releases were the consecutive (75-76-77) trio that ran: Ricochet / Stratosphere / Sorcerer. Later on I rated the two early 80's live releases, Logos & Poland. Listened to Zeit another couple of times over the weekend... it's really something! > Ya, definitely off-topic but I'd wager most people here have liked TD at > one point in time at least. > > And hey, both TD and Namlook are based in Germany, and K.Schulze don't > forget was ex-TD ;-) Which explains why the DSotM's sound just like > some early TD stuff. Didn't Schulze drum for them on the first album? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 14:00:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Trevor Cordes Subject: Re: (fax) Something I'd like to share... >> And hey, both TD and Namlook are based in Germany, and K.Schulze don't >> forget was ex-TD ;-) Which explains why the DSotM's sound just like >> some early TD stuff. > > Didn't Schulze drum for them on the first album? I thought for sure he had contributed his Moog/synth talents as some of the early TD stuff sounds so KS/DSotM-y. I'll have to dig out the CD's to see what exactly he did and for which albums. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 12:23:57 -0700 From: Christian von Ompteda Subject: (fax) Music shopping in London Fellow Fax-listers - I'm off to the UK this week and am spending 5 days in London - can any one recommend some decent places to shop for music? Specifically any decent/rarer Fax titles, as well as generally ambient/electronic music both on CD and vinyl? If anyone knows where to possibly come across any of the Fax vinyl or old (circa 1992-5) drum & bass vinyl, that would be very cool as well... Thanks! Christian. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 12:40:44 -0700 From: jon logan Subject: Re: (fax) Music shopping in London I found the original Shades 1, Ambiant Otaku, and a few other goodies at SisterRay in Soho. But that was, uh... 7 years ago. They are rumored to still be a good shop, though. At 12:23 PM -0700 10/18/04, Christian von Ompteda wrote: >Fellow Fax-listers - I'm off to the UK this week and am spending 5 days in >London - can any one recommend some decent places to shop for music? > >Specifically any decent/rarer Fax titles, as well as generally >ambient/electronic music both on CD and vinyl? If anyone knows where to >possibly come across any of the Fax vinyl or old (circa 1992-5) drum & bass >vinyl, that would be very cool as well... > >Thanks! >Christian. > >--- >+ To post: ; to mail a person: >+ To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to >+ Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:16:12 -0700 From: Rafael Almeria Subject: (fax) New Recommendations? Does anyone have any must have new Fax recommendations? My tastes lean to albums like Possible Gardens, Vrs-Mbnt-Pcs II, Virtual Vices II and Waiting for Snow. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 21:34:45 -0500 (CDT) From: Trevor Cordes Subject: Re: (fax) New Recommendations? On 18 Oct, Rafael Almeria wrote: > Does anyone have any must have new Fax recommendations? My tastes lean > to albums like Possible Gardens, Vrs-Mbnt-Pcs II, Virtual Vices II and > Waiting for Snow. I really liked Advanced Indigo and Pop For Dwoozle out of the recent bunch. They are by far the more accessible such as VV2 and WfS. Indigo's a bit world-y with the heavy sitar use so your mileage may vary. Strange, but I usually loathe sitars, but in Indigo it really works. You probably won't be too thrilled with the other drone/minimal that's been released lately. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:15:21 -0700 From: Rafael Almeria Subject: Re: (fax) New Recommendations? Sitars? So is it ethnic like the Silence series and Sad World III? I couldn't find any samples of Adv. Indigo. Do you know of some? On Oct 18, 2004, at 7:34 PM, Trevor Cordes wrote: > On 18 Oct, Rafael Almeria wrote: >> Does anyone have any must have new Fax recommendations? My tastes >> lean >> to albums like Possible Gardens, Vrs-Mbnt-Pcs II, Virtual Vices II and >> Waiting for Snow. > > I really liked Advanced Indigo and Pop For Dwoozle out of the recent > bunch. They are by far the more accessible such as VV2 and WfS. > Indigo's a bit world-y with the heavy sitar use so your mileage may > vary. Strange, but I usually loathe sitars, but in Indigo it really > works. You probably won't be too thrilled with the other drone/minimal > that's been released lately. > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:56:24 -0500 (CDT) From: Trevor Cordes Subject: Re: (fax) New Recommendations? On 18 Oct, Rafael Almeria wrote: > Sitars? So is it ethnic like the Silence series and Sad World III? Yes, kind of like those except kicked up a notch. Also lots of middle-eastern-style flutes. I just popped it back on to describe it better and I'm instantly drawn into the album... wonderful. It just flows like liquid nectar. Tracks 1-3 kick royal ass and make this a must have release IMHO. 5 reminds me of some Wagon Christ releases (ala Musipal). 6 could almost be Biosphere. The last track reminds me of some early Planet Dog stuff. The rest are nice interludes to the strong tracks. I should note that from what I can recall I'm the only one on this list who really praises this release. I don't recall anyone else saying yea or nay, which probably means they feel it's mediocre. Anyone? I just can't state enough how much I love tracks 1-3, which really feel like one long track that just keeps getting better and better. > I couldn't find any samples of Adv. Indigo. Do you know of some? Nope, although you point out a big shortcoming of FAX right now... how does one (outside of Itunes) get samples of new releases? Surely PK or Ear/R should have easy-to-find samples somewhere on the web to promote sales. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:27:54 -0700 From: Rafael Almeria Subject: Re: (fax) New Recommendations? >> I couldn't find any samples of Adv. Indigo. Do you know of some? > > Nope, although you point out a big shortcoming of FAX right now... how > does one (outside of Itunes) get samples of new releases? Surely PK or > Ear/R should have easy-to-find samples somewhere on the web to promote > sales. I looked on iTunes and they do have other New Composers stuff (e.g. Planetarium) but not Advanced Indigo. I wonder why? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 09:02:51 +0100 From: Paul Bavister Subject: RE: (fax) Music shopping in London I just saw the posting asking for information on possible Fax retailers in London UK, and I can confirm that Sister Ray on Berwick St is still the best for new / old fax titles. Last time I was there, a few weeks ago, they still had some fax vinyl releases available, and plenty of CD's & RI stuff. PB - -----Original Message----- From: jon logan [mailto:jon@shiznitz.com] Sent: 18 October 2004 20:41 To: Christian von Ompteda; Fax List Subject: Re: (fax) Music shopping in London I found the original Shades 1, Ambiant Otaku, and a few other goodies at SisterRay in Soho. But that was, uh... 7 years ago. They are rumored to still be a good shop, though. At 12:23 PM -0700 10/18/04, Christian von Ompteda wrote: >Fellow Fax-listers - I'm off to the UK this week and am spending 5 days in >London - can any one recommend some decent places to shop for music? > >Specifically any decent/rarer Fax titles, as well as generally >ambient/electronic music both on CD and vinyl? If anyone knows where to >possibly come across any of the Fax vinyl or old (circa 1992-5) drum & bass >vinyl, that would be very cool as well... > >Thanks! >Christian. > >--- >+ To post: ; to mail a person: >+ To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to >+ Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org - --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 11:24:48 +0200 From: "Ilmar Links" Subject: Re: (fax) New Recommendations? Hi Faxheads, well if you're looking for some samples for advanced indigo check out www.amazon.de search on 'advanced indigo' and you've got your samples;) np Deltraxx >From: Rafael Almeria >To: Trevor Cordes >CC: Fax List >Subject: Re: (fax) New Recommendations? >Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:15:21 -0700 > >Sitars? So is it ethnic like the Silence series and Sad World III? > >I couldn't find any samples of Adv. Indigo. Do you know of some? > > >On Oct 18, 2004, at 7:34 PM, Trevor Cordes wrote: > >>On 18 Oct, Rafael Almeria wrote: >>>Does anyone have any must have new Fax recommendations? My tastes lean >>>to albums like Possible Gardens, Vrs-Mbnt-Pcs II, Virtual Vices II and >>>Waiting for Snow. >> >>I really liked Advanced Indigo and Pop For Dwoozle out of the recent >>bunch. They are by far the more accessible such as VV2 and WfS. >>Indigo's a bit world-y with the heavy sitar use so your mileage may >>vary. Strange, but I usually loathe sitars, but in Indigo it really >>works. You probably won't be too thrilled with the other drone/minimal >>that's been released lately. >> >>--- >>+ To post: ; to mail a person: >>+ To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to >>+ Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org >> > >--- >+ To post: ; to mail a person: >+ To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to >+ Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org _________________________________________________________________ Chatten met je online vrienden via MSN Messenger. http://messenger.msn.nl/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 14:45:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Lachman Subject: Re: (fax) New Recommendations? I agree with you about Advanced Indigo. I was and continue to be completely floored by it. I also purchased Planetarium which hardly sounds like the same artists. Advanced Indigo takes electronic music to a new sphere. All other fax releases this year have been a disappointment for me. Pop for Dwozzle caught my interest at first but never made for repeated listening. Speaking of TD, without the Fax releases I've been enjoying the TD retro artists like Redshift, Free System Project, RMI and others. ML - --- Trevor Cordes wrote: > Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:56:24 -0500 (CDT) > From: Trevor Cordes > Subject: Re: (fax) New Recommendations? > To: Fax List > > On 18 Oct, Rafael Almeria wrote: > > Sitars? So is it ethnic like the Silence series > and Sad World III? > > Yes, kind of like those except kicked up a notch. > Also lots of > middle-eastern-style flutes. I just popped it back > on to describe it > better and I'm instantly drawn into the album... > wonderful. It just > flows like liquid nectar. Tracks 1-3 kick royal ass > and make this a > must have release IMHO. 5 reminds me of some Wagon > Christ releases (ala > Musipal). 6 could almost be Biosphere. The last > track reminds me of > some early Planet Dog stuff. The rest are nice > interludes to the strong > tracks. > > I should note that from what I can recall I'm the > only one on this list > who really praises this release. I don't recall > anyone else saying yea > or nay, which probably means they feel it's > mediocre. Anyone? > > I just can't state enough how much I love tracks > 1-3, which really feel > like one long track that just keeps getting better > and better. > > > I couldn't find any samples of Adv. Indigo. Do > you know of some? > > Nope, although you point out a big shortcoming of > FAX right now... how > does one (outside of Itunes) get samples of new > releases? Surely PK or > Ear/R should have easy-to-find samples somewhere on > the web to promote > sales. > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax > www.2350.org > _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 10:00:01 +0100 From: Paul Milligan Subject: Re: (fax) New Recommendations? on 19/10/2004 10:45 pm, Mark Lachman at marklachman@yahoo.com wrote: > .............Speaking of TD, without the Fax releases > I've been enjoying the TD retro artists like Redshift, > Free System Project, RMI and others. I delved into some RMI stuff a few years back (& Andy Pickford but, isn't he Redshift?.. I can't recall) and concluded that nobody quite does the 'classic' TD sound like TD... if that's not an obvious statement. Anyway, after enthusing about Zeit I have decided to pick-up Atem which, apparently, bridges the Ohr-Virgin transformation. Still think the most under-rated of their releases is Sorcerer, possibly overlooked because it's not a regular studio or live release. Their darkest hour! However, I think I'm right in saying they actually passed Friedkin about 4 hours worth of studio recordings... imagine if they released a re-mastered 2CD version of that!!!! ------------------------------ End of faxlist-digest V2004 #74 ******************************* --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org