From: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org (faxlist-digest) To: faxlist-digest@monkey.org Subject: faxlist-digest V2004 #81 Reply-To: faxlist@2350.org Sender: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Errors-To: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Precedence: bulk faxlist-digest Sunday, November 28 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 081 Re: (fax) Wech>S Subject: Re: (fax) Wech>S wrote: > I remember when I first got this - I found a vinyl copy that had been reissued > on Jonah Sharp's Reflective label (the vinyl comes with one of those crazy 3d > laser hologram stickers as the center label). I couldn't really decide which > speed to play it on - it sounded equally brilliant at both 33 and 45. Figured > it out when I got the CD, but it's always amazed me that it's one of those > albums where it would work perfectly under almost any circumstance. Very > versatile... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 18:09:46 -0800 From: Subject: Re: (fax) Wechelspannung > On 23 Nov, Brian wrote: >> Does anyone love this release as much as I do? I think it's brilliant. I totally agree. It's one of my favorites. The infectious melody interwoven with the dissonant sounds and beats is a stunning combination of musical genius. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 00:16:48 -0500 From: "jackthetab" Subject: (fax) atom heart - orange i am listening to this for the first time. this is not what i was expecting to hear from atom heart. i have heard people it is not like his other works, but i had to hear it for myself. i will have to submit a review on this album, but i want to listen to it again. i thought it was one of the better releases on fax. orange does not come up often on this list, not sure why not. kunst und wahnsinn, jackthetab #####\ _ /##### #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# ##### | /_woof/ | ##### #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# #####/ ######/ \###### \##### /_______________________________________\ die Intensität eines Automobilunfalles, ist einfach erstaunlich. http://jackthetab.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 11:52:52 +0100 From: "Martin Jones" Subject: (fax) Redefining IDM + Wechselspannung

A wise man (OK then it was CJ Bolland!) once said there are only two sorts of music, good and bad...but just to widen it out a bit, what about Warp's definition of "Electronic Listening Music" or my mate's definition of "Beautiful Electronic Music" as working possibilities...I think BEM's got a certain ring to it :-)

Wechselspannung is grrrrrrreat!!! Especially, y'know, that bit.... :-)

Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! MSN Messenger Download today it's FREE! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 11:25:56 +0000 From: Paul Milligan Subject: Re: (fax) atom heart - orange on 24/11/2004 5:16 am, jackthetab at ambient@nycap.rr.com wrote: > i will have to submit a review on this album, but > i want to listen to it again. i thought it was one > of the better releases on fax. > > orange does not come up often on this list, not sure > why not. overall I prefer Softcore & Plane from same period (for consistency) BUT there is one track in particular on Orange (is it called Rain Echo, disc not with me) which is one of finest tracks AH has ever recorded imo. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 11:48:08 -0500 From: "David Cho" Subject: (fax) Record shops in Miami? Hi all, I will be going to Miami, Florida for 2 days. Could anyone please suggest me some good record shops there? I am into FAX stuffs of course but also jazz and other types. I am also interested in LPs. Your suggestion is greatly appreciated!! Thanks, David ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 19:47:19 +0100 From: Richard Hughes Subject: Re: (fax) atom heart - orange > on 24/11/2004 5:16 am, jackthetab at ambient@nycap.rr.com wrote: > >> i will have to submit a review on this album, but >> i want to listen to it again. i thought it was one >> of the better releases on fax. >> >> orange does not come up often on this list, not sure >> why not. > > overall I prefer Softcore & Plane from same period (for > consistency) BUT there is one track in particular on > Orange (is it called Rain Echo, disc not with me) which > is one of finest tracks AH has ever recorded imo. > Orange is probably one of the Atom Heart cd's on Fax I listen to most - I much prefer it to Softcore for some reason. It's a very versatile release and no@h's review on 2350 certainly gives a good overview - he was right on the mark when he said it will sound fresh for years to come. "Rainecho" is probably the most immediately satisfying of the tracks, but I don't know if I'd go as far as saying it's one of his best ever for the simple fact he has done so damn many. +N - Plane is also up there I agree as one of the more interesting releases with AH from the 93/94 period. The others early Atom "musts" - for me at least - being Datacide II and the first 3 RI albums. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:39:34 -0800 From: "Greg" Subject: Re: (fax) Record shops in Miami? Interested in any Miami Bass?? lots of that in Miami...home of the Electro Bass. No idea about record stores though(live in California). - ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Cho" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 8:48 AM Subject: (fax) Record shops in Miami? > Hi all, > > I will be going to Miami, Florida for 2 days. Could anyone please suggest > me some good record shops there? > I am into FAX stuffs of course but also jazz and other types. I am also > interested in LPs. > > Your suggestion is greatly appreciated!! > > Thanks, > David > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 20:10:03 -0500 From: Max Lincourt Subject: (fax) Namlook vs. Mike Ink's Studio 1 ... Someone told me that Namlook used one of Mike Ink's Studio 1 loop for his "Nouvelles Machines" on The Fires Of Ork II. since the "Nouvelles Machines" and the tracks on Studio 1 are really different, I have some doubts. any thoughts ? M. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 21:36:13 -0500 From: "jackthetab" Subject: Re: (fax) atom heart - orange i listened to softcore and plane. i will certainly have to relisten to each, as it has been a while since i have heard either. i was not much into softcore at the time i heard it, but bought it anyways. i remember not liking it much because i felt it was a little boring and too strung out. plane, i could never get into. its too quiet, and puts me fast asleep. orange on the other hand has a lot going for it. the music has some nice builds and blends. and just as the music started to get a little monotonous, a new layer sonically appears. there is enough style to keep this album in rotation for a while. kunst und wahnsinn, jackthetab #####\ _ /##### #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# ##### | /_woof/ | ##### #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# #####/ ######/ \###### \##### /_______________________________________\ die Intensität eines Automobilunfalles, ist einfach erstaunlich. http://jackthetab.org - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Milligan" To: "jackthetab" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 6:25 AM Subject: Re: (fax) atom heart - orange > on 24/11/2004 5:16 am, jackthetab at ambient@nycap.rr.com wrote: > > > i will have to submit a review on this album, but > > i want to listen to it again. i thought it was one > > of the better releases on fax. > > > > orange does not come up often on this list, not sure > > why not. > > overall I prefer Softcore & Plane from same period (for > consistency) BUT there is one track in particular on > Orange (is it called Rain Echo, disc not with me) which > is one of finest tracks AH has ever recorded imo. > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 00:46:56 -0500 From: "jackthetab" Subject: (fax) softcore (was atom heart - orange) after listening to this album again, i have to say that i am more impressed with it this time around over the first time. there are a few good techno tracks in there as well (track five - difference engine). i still like orange better, but softcore will require one more listen. kunst und wahnsinn, jackthetab #####\ _ /##### #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# ##### | /_woof/ | ##### #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# #####/ ######/ \###### \##### /_______________________________________\ die Intensität eines Automobilunfalles, ist einfach erstaunlich. http://jackthetab.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 09:56:33 -0500 From: "Stephen Philips" Subject: RE: (fax) softcore I know the little bit of controversy surrounding the cover art has gone around before but just what is it supposed to be? I stare at it for hours and I've never been able to figure it out. ;-) - ------ Stephen Philips Dark Duck Records http://www.darkduck.net Drone Download Project | http://www.darkduck.net/drone.htm Dissonance Records [guitar::noise::experimental::shoegazer] | http://www.dissonancerecords.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 19:17:20 +0100 From: Richard Hughes Subject: (fax) Pop & Clicks - Blast from the past Sorry for bringing this one up again, but trawling through the ambient list archives I came across this forwarded posting from the man himself following much debate about the "dodgy" quality (as some people put it at the time) of the Instinct re-presses. Thought it may be of interest to readers here who may not have seen it.. (For the record I have both Fax originals and the Instinct represses of Sad World and disc1 of the Instinct version always gave me trouble in certain CD players whereas the Fax PS 08/23 never had such problems). - ------- Forwarded Message Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 01:03:57 GMT To:[EMAIL REMOVED]From:[EMAIL REMOVED](Peter Kuhlmann) Subject: Jitteridoo Cc:[EMAIL REMOVED] I had a nice chat today with Gerald from Instinct and we decided to answer to the endless "jitter" discussion. Gerald even received a FAX recently about this topic. I don't want to interfere with this list too much but there are some facts you should know. The CD on FAX records are being mastered at my house. I give a CDr to the pressing plant who copies the disk on a very direct and DIGITAL way to the Glasmaster. All the project - oriented Instinct Double-CDs had been mastered from the CD as well DIRECT with no analog copying inbetween or else. In this letter to Gerald someone said that there was a problem especially with the SAD WORLD I+II CD on the first two tracks...I have an early version (promo) of the Instinct 2CD where the label printing was false and I didn't hear any ...ANY mistake which could have come from the copying. If there are problems with the sound then the problems are from my original versions. You all should know that I am very concerned about SOUND but if the music is right and it is an excellent track that is in no way able to be reproduced by the musicians in better quality I would even master from a Cassette tape. I did so in some cases (you for sure will find out...which records...the ones who find out and give me the exact list of records on my label which were mastered from Compact Cassette will receive a FAX record of THEIR CHOICE FOR FREE....good luck !). I recommend to listen to the MUSIC ... we are very concerned about the quality of sound ...you will hear it in a club situation even better...if 100% perfect recording is what you are going for then buy Digital Audio Test CDs...(or Namlook III) but make sure that the level is not getting too low on the recording otherwise you'll hear the sampling noise of the DA converters.... I don't want to start a scientific research if the Instinct releases are 101 % the same as the FAX issues...what is important are your ears...and I don't HEAR any difference...sorry. Something else...my Australian distributor has obviously a slight problem to sell FAX CDs in their territory...a bit strange because I have enough collectors over there who can't stop complaining that they can't find th= e CDs...anyway...this is NOT a commercial hardsell message (as all these CDs are already paid by my distributor and accounted to my artists)...perhaps some of you are in .au and can use this information as all the CDs they have are not available from FAX any more and have the status "Sold out" at my place (in the original version). The guy at MDS distribution is Richie and the FAX no is +61-3-6452909. Phone is +61-3-6460188. If anyone has an idea who could distribute Ambient a bit more efficient in Australia please give[EMAIL REMOVED]the list: Atom Heart, Live at sel i/s/c PS 08/41, 22 copies Ambiant Otaku PS 08/43, 32 Escape PK 08/87, 30 Namlook III PK 08/88, 98 (for completists only...eeerh isn't it *) A New Consciousness PW 10, 42 Create PW 15, 22 Pete Namlook The Artists Cut AW 001, 44 Coeur Atomique PS 08/27, 5 AtomHeart, Orange PS 08/36, 46 The Whole Traffic PS 08/39, 59 Music to Fims PS 08/40, 14 Namlook IV PK 08/89, 23 2350 Broadway 2, 22 Wechselspannung PW 17, 5 Gate/Sol PS 08/47, 39 Zenith PS 08/48, 30 Sad World 2 PS 08/45, 24 Limelight PK 08/82, 8 +N "plane" PS 08/46, 28 Cymatic Scan PS 08/50, 15 Alien Community 2 PW 14, 14 Passion, YT 1, 2 Wandering Soul YT 2, 28 Sorry for this monster mail...I promise to behave better in the future ;-). - ------- End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 08:19:34 -0600 From: Trevor Cordes Subject: (fax) Babylon 5 sample In one of those strange coincidences I've been listening to my Psychonavigation Collection MP3 CD all night, and appreciating it more with every listen (esp PN1!)... and low and behold on Telepathy I and Telepathy II the very subdued sample of a woman speaking about telepaths making love started playing in my mind. Then it dawned on me... I've been watching the complete Babylon 5 (sci-fi TV series) DVD's that I borrowed off a friend and I recognized the sample from there. A quick google reveals it's from Mind War and is as follows: "Do you know what its like when telepaths make love, Commander? You drop every defense and its all mirrors reflecting each other's feelings. Deeper and deeper until somewhere along the line, your souls mix and its a feeling so profound it makes you hurt. It's the only moment in a telepath's life you no longer hear the voices." - -Talia Winters ["Mind War"] It was a very interesting bit of dialogue from a slightly better than mediocre series so it stuck in my mind. I didn't know PK (or BL or KS) were B5 fans... I didn't think it was very "international", like, say, Doctor Who (my real favorite show :). Speaking of Doctor Who, I suddenly realized that PK hasn't sampled it at all. That's a bit disappointing considering the samples from every other sci-fi thing out there like ST:TNG, Matrix, B5, etc. At least Eat Static used a 3rd Dr sample on one of their songs ;-) Also, my google searches indicated no one had connected the B5 sample with PN yet so it will be good to get this on the net for future googlers. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 18:40:07 +0330 From: 'Alexander S.Kunz' Subject: Re: (fax) Babylon 5 sample Hello Trevor Cordes & everyone else 27-Nov-2004 17:49, you wrote: > "Do you know what its like when telepaths make love, Commander? You drop > every defense and its all mirrors reflecting each other's feelings. Deeper > and deeper until somewhere along the line, your souls mix and its a > feeling so profound it makes you hurt. It's the only moment in a > telepath's life you no longer hear the voices." I dare say that this is just the same for us non-telepaths... I mean... "somewhere along the line" (sha-lala, what a nice description!), everything else fades out (if you're the guy, it'll be only a second or so, if you're lucky and a woman with the right guy, it may be longer *g*). Btw. I don't think B5 is merely a "slightly better than mediocre" series. The story needs time to take its momentum, I found the series highly addictive. Look at ST:TNG's first season... oh my gosh, wasn't that horrible, too? ;-) - -- Best regards, 'Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Once an idea has been generated within the mind, it may no longer be wholly under the control of the consciousness which gave it birth, but it may operate autonomously on other minds as well as the physical world. -- H. H. Price ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 13:24:10 -0500 From: Jason Subject: (fax) FA : Fax vinyl

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or the elongated version :

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Jason

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the likes of Mirror. Limited edition of 50 numbered copies. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 11:52:32 -0800 From: Christian von Ompteda Subject: Re: (fax) Babylon 5 sample As another Dr. Who fanatic, I can only think that PK might well think it *too* recognizeable & camp, but then again, after sampling the Matrix and that ST:Voyager sample at the beginning of Summer, who can say... I've lifted some decent Dr. Who samples for my tracks, but I tend towards not recording any of the doctors or companions - just too obvious. There's some gold in there - especially when you plumb the depths of the old Hartnell/Troughten episodes. cheers, C. Quoting Trevor Cordes : > In one of those strange coincidences I've been listening to my > Psychonavigation Collection MP3 CD all night, and appreciating it more > with every listen (esp PN1!)... and low and behold on Telepathy I and > Telepathy II the very subdued sample of a woman speaking about telepaths > making love started playing in my mind. > > Then it dawned on me... I've been watching the complete Babylon 5 (sci-fi > TV series) DVD's that I borrowed off a friend and I recognized the sample > from there. A quick google reveals it's from Mind War and is as follows: > > "Do you know what its like when telepaths make love, Commander? You drop > every defense and its all mirrors reflecting each other's feelings. Deeper > and deeper until somewhere along the line, your souls mix and its a > feeling so profound it makes you hurt. It's the only moment in a > telepath's life you no longer hear the voices." > -Talia Winters ["Mind War"] > > It was a very interesting bit of dialogue from a slightly better than > mediocre series so it stuck in my mind. > > I didn't know PK (or BL or KS) were B5 fans... I didn't think it was very > "international", like, say, Doctor Who (my real favorite show :). > Speaking of Doctor Who, I suddenly realized that PK hasn't sampled it at > all. That's a bit disappointing considering the samples from every other > sci-fi thing out there like ST:TNG, Matrix, B5, etc. At least Eat Static > used a 3rd Dr sample on one of their songs ;-) > > Also, my google searches indicated no one had connected the B5 sample with > PN yet so it will be good to get this on the net for future googlers. > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 07:12:12 -0600 (CST) From: Trevor Cordes Subject: Re: (fax) Babylon 5 sample On 27 Nov, 'Alexander S.Kunz' wrote: > > Btw. I don't think B5 is merely a "slightly better than mediocre" series. > The story needs time to take its momentum, I found the series highly > addictive. Look at ST:TNG's first season... oh my gosh, wasn't that > horrible, too? ;-) Well, I'm only through season 1 so far so I'll wait and see. My main gripe is much of the acting is sub-par, like much of the post ST:TNG Star Treks and other recent US sci-fi shows. The notable exceptions are Sinclair and Londo. People always laugh at Dr Who but for the most part the acting was of a very high caliber. In B5 I'd like to see more sci-fi and more of the "mystery" explored than just the straight "space opera" stuff. Maybe in the later seasons... And to put a FAX angle on this: somehow I just knew that I'd find some Who and other sci-fi fans here. It seems obvious PK is a fan, otherwise how could he sit through all the sci-fi to pull out the best sample gems? ------------------------------ End of faxlist-digest V2004 #81 ******************************* --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org