From: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org (faxlist-digest) To: faxlist-digest@monkey.org Subject: faxlist-digest V2004 #82 Reply-To: faxlist@2350.org Sender: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Errors-To: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Precedence: bulk faxlist-digest Wednesday, December 1 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 082 Re: (fax) Babylon 5 sample Re: (fax) Pop & Clicks - Blast from the past (fax) Record shops in NYC. Re: (fax) Record shops in NYC. Re: (fax) Record shops in NYC. 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Re: (fax) tangerine dream no longer tangerine snooze Re: (fax) tangerine dream no longer tangerine snooze Fw: (fax) tangerine dream no longer tangerine snooze (fax) FA eBay (fax) tangerine snoozing ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 14:25:09 +0100 From: Alexander S.Kunz Subject: Re: (fax) Babylon 5 sample Hello Trevor Cordes & everyone else 28-Nov-2004 14:12, you wrote: > In B5 I'd like to see more sci-fi and more of the "mystery" explored than > just the straight "space opera" stuff. Maybe in the later seasons... If you're only thru seasons 1 - fear not, you'll be satisfied. :-) > And to put a FAX angle on this: somehow I just knew that I'd find some > Who and other sci-fi fans here. It seems obvious PK is a fan, otherwise > how could he sit through all the sci-fi to pull out the best sample gems? But some samples are used so far away from their original context that they appear rather "odd" or "misplaced" (at least to the knowing audience) ...or is that only me? :-) ...I think of "The third option" (JC4) with the Tuvok sample from ST:Voy where it is quite obvious its about his vulcan "Pun Far" (or whatever the correct spelling is) mating thing... I find that... errrm... strange, remembering that Tuvok actually went *totally* nuts in that episode, IIRC. :-) ...and that tagline below my signature was chosen randomly, I swear... - -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) He attracted some attention when he found the fourth dimension But he ain't got no rhythm - so no one's with him, The lonliest man in town. -- Billie Holiday ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 11:37:31 -0600 (CST) From: Trevor Cordes Subject: Re: (fax) Pop & Clicks - Blast from the past On 25 Nov, Richard Hughes wrote: > Sorry for bringing this one up again, but trawling through the ambient list > archives I came across this forwarded posting from the man himself following > much debate about the "dodgy" quality (as some people put it at the time) of > the Instinct re-presses. > Thought it may be of interest to readers here who may not have seen it.. Ya, thanks for the post. I'm real picky about these pops/clicks and it's interesting to hear PK's take. Some of his English is a bit hard to follow though. I found the same pops on FAX SW2 and Instinct SW2 so as far as I can see they are identical. Tracks 1 & 2 are pretty bad. I've found/fixed all of them on my rips. > (For the record I have both Fax originals and the Instinct represses of Sad > World and disc1 of the Instinct version always gave me trouble in certain CD > players whereas the Fax PS 08/23 never had such problems). My Instinct SW1 never showed much in the way of problems -- only 1 pop on t2. I haven't yet tracked down FAX SW1 yet to compare. I had much more problems with Air 1 (Instinct and RSN), and the infamous pop-laden Xangadix's, but with the latter there's no other pressing to compare it to. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 11:15:00 -0800 From: Joe Rapoza Subject: (fax) Record shops in NYC. Hello, I'm going to Manhattan in a couple of weeks and I was wondering if a few people could recommend record shops in the city for older Fax, em:t and the like? Thanks, Joe ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 14:21:43 -0500 From: micah stupak Subject: Re: (fax) Record shops in NYC. on Sunday, November 28, 2004, Joe Rapoza wrote... > I'm going to Manhattan in a couple of weeks and I was wondering if a > few people could recommend record shops in the city for older Fax, > em:t and the like? that's a tough question. nyc doesn't have much in the way of shops stocking old material. at least i've never made any finds. i think the closest i found were some of the instinct releases in used bins your best bets might be downtown music gallery (on bowery near 3rd), kim's on st marks, etherea (on ave b near 5th), and halcyon (somewhere down in park slope, brooklyn, i always forget where). - --- micah stupak micah@benthic.cc www.benthic.cc benthic recordings - soundings from unexplored places ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 16:14:25 -0500 From: MuzikJunky Subject: Re: (fax) Record shops in NYC. > I'm going to Manhattan in a couple of weeks and I was wondering if a > few > people could recommend record shops in the city for older Fax, em:t > and the > like? Look at earlier posts on the list. Other Music and Kim's Video will hook you up nicely. Peace. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 18:41:04 -0800 From: Subject: Re: (fax) Pop & Clicks - Blast from the past From: "Trevor Cordes" > Ya, thanks for the post. I'm real picky about these pops/clicks and > it's interesting to hear PK's take. Some of his English is a bit hard > to follow though. My own take on this issue is that this is improvisational experimental electronic music which I don't think is meant to be "perfect". As a result my listening approach is that sound anomalies are part of the music and the listening experience. To be honest I haven't noticed anything unusual in normal listening. Certainly nothing annoying or bothersome to me. I suppose once you start intently listening for the slightest sound anomaly it can affect your listening experience, but it's all about your frame of mind when listening. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:22:47 -0000 From: "izam studio" Subject: Re: (fax) Pop & Clicks - Blast from the past this is the result i would say of the fact most early stuff probably went straight to dat tape live from midi sequencers etc or parts recorded were fairly spontaneous and one off takes .A dodgy electrical system or fridge or heating system often creates these clicks which are then captured along with a unique take , scrap the take or live with the clicks .I knew loads of guys who before the advent of cheap gadgets that filter this at the studio mains sockets would end up with one off mixes with clicks and nothing could be done.Back then you didnt have stuff like waves declicker etc , software that removes these very well these days.This is something that cant be avoided.I dont think its the result of pressing etc or anything.It is very much a question of accepting them for me as the other option is to drive yourself mad but its is annoying i find once you know its there .Vinyl drives me crazy in this repect when its crackly and i simply cant listen to good still ambient stuff on it with crackles as they are so removed form the acoustic space of the music but i rarely hear music these days with digital or electrical pops and mains clicks on it.If they really piss you off then waves de-clicker or another one will remove these very well i would say , you can work wonders with it . - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Fax List" Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 2:41 AM Subject: Re: (fax) Pop & Clicks - Blast from the past > From: "Trevor Cordes" > > Ya, thanks for the post. I'm real picky about these pops/clicks and > > it's interesting to hear PK's take. Some of his English is a bit hard > > to follow though. > > My own take on this issue is that this is improvisational experimental > electronic music which I don't think is meant to be "perfect". As a result > my listening approach is that sound anomalies are part of the music and the > listening experience. To be honest I haven't noticed anything unusual in > normal listening. Certainly nothing annoying or bothersome to me. I suppose > once you start intently listening for the slightest sound anomaly it can > affect your listening experience, but it's all about your frame of mind when > listening. > > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:45:19 -0600 (CST) From: Trevor Cordes Subject: Re: (fax) Pop & Clicks - Blast from the past On 29 Nov, izam studio wrote: > still ambient stuff on it with crackles as they are so removed form the > acoustic space of the music but i rarely hear music these days with digital > or electrical pops and mains clicks on it.If they really piss you off then > waves de-clicker or another one will remove these very well i would say , > you can work wonders with it . I agree in that pops at inopportune times can be highly annoying. I found all automated WAV depoppers I tried to be inadequate or plain horrible. I've since gone through all my FAX collection and depopped every pop by hand in a WAV editor. It's actually not that tricky once you get the hang of it. The hard part is training your ear to pinpoint a pop down to a 10th or 20th of a second so you can easily find the pop visually. Of course, there are still a couple of pops that elude me that are really frustrating... Caution: Don't try the above on Xangadix or Air 1 unless you have lots of patience! ;-) I wonder how PK would feel about me sharing my depopped versions with other people assuming they already own the original release? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:09:16 -0700 From: "Dave @ Fax USA (EAR/Rational Music)" Subject: (fax) Sad World I+II pressing error Anyone know anything about a pressing error in the Instinct version of Sad World I+II that switches the discs (i.e., the music from 1 is on 2 and vice versa)? Thanks, Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 19:35:22 -0500 From: "joey@etherworld.com" Subject: RE: (fax) Sad World I+II pressing error Yup=2E The Instinct version had SW1 on the SW2 disc and vice versa=2E I'm = not sure if the problem was=20 ever corrected with later pressings or how many pressings they actually di= d=2E - -Joe Original Message: - ----------------- From: Dave @ Fax USA (EAR/Rational Music) dave@faxlabelusa=2Ecom Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:09:16 -0700 To: faxlist@2350=2Eorg Subject: (fax) Sad World I+II pressing error Anyone know anything about a pressing error in the Instinct version of=20 Sad World I+II that switches the discs (i=2Ee=2E, the music from 1 is on 2= =20 and vice versa)? Thanks, Dave - --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www=2Ehyperreal=2Eorg/fax www=2E2350=2Eorg - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web=2Ecom/ =2E ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:51:00 -0700 From: "Dave @ Fax USA (EAR/Rational Music)" Subject: Re: (fax) Pop & Clicks - Blast from the past > > I wonder how PK would feel about me sharing my depopped versions with > other people assuming they already own the original release? > I think that would be fine. His take on the pops was that he didn't feel they were so problematic that a repress was warranted or anything like that. But if people want to share the fixed versions, I don't think it would be a problem. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 23:11:08 -0500 From: "jackthetab" Subject: Re: (fax) Sad World I+II pressing error hmmm, i havent heard this before. i will have to check to see if my copy is like that. funny how it was missed for so long? kunst und wahnsinn, jackthetab #####\ _ /##### #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# ##### | /_woof/ | ##### #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# #####/ ######/ \###### \##### /_______________________________________\ die Intensität eines Automobilunfalles, ist einfach erstaunlich. http://jackthetab.org - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 7:35 PM Subject: RE: (fax) Sad World I+II pressing error Yup. The Instinct version had SW1 on the SW2 disc and vice versa. I'm not sure if the problem was ever corrected with later pressings or how many pressings they actually did. - -Joe Original Message: - ----------------- From: Dave @ Fax USA (EAR/Rational Music) dave@faxlabelusa.com Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:09:16 -0700 To: faxlist@2350.org Subject: (fax) Sad World I+II pressing error Anyone know anything about a pressing error in the Instinct version of Sad World I+II that switches the discs (i.e., the music from 1 is on 2 and vice versa)? Thanks, Dave - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org - --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 12:25:46 -0500 From: "joey@etherworld.com" Subject: Re: (fax) Sad World I+II pressing error Okay, just checked my copy and they are not switched, although this is my second copy of SW 1 & 2=20 on Instinct as I sold my original years ago =2E I do remember this error pressing however when I worked at Reckless Record= s on Haight Street=2E If=20 people can check there copies I'd love to re-confirm this=2E I assume the error was caught after the=20 first pressing and corrected with later ones=2E Some Fax trivia questions: Q1: What was the first Fax CD to have the Fax symbol font? Q2: Which Fax CD is missing the catalog # on the spine? More later=2E :) - -Joe Original Message: - ----------------- From: MuzikJunky MuzikJunky@earthlink=2Enet Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 01:14:44 -0500 To: joey@etherworld=2Ecom Subject: Re: (fax) Sad World I+II pressing error > Yup=2E The Instinct version had SW1 on the SW2 disc and vice versa=2E I'= m=20 > not > sure if the problem was ever corrected with later pressings or how=20 > many pressings they actually did=2E My copy of "Sad World I & II" is correct--the discs are NOT switched=2E=20= Peace=2E - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web=2Ecom/ =2E ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 13:49:03 -0500 From: micah stupak Subject: (fax) tangerine dream no longer tangerine snooze hey, i think i finally get it. amongst all the phaedra/force majeure/rubycon/cyclone love spread about here i never found anything (truly) worthwhile. "rubycon" is about the best i've found, technically well-done but just missing a bit of human oomph. so why hasn't anyone ever recommended _zeit_ or _atem_? outside of the risky business soundtrack (which i think i enjoyed less for the tunes than memories of the sensations that movie gave my tender young mind), this has got to be the best work i've heard from these guys. that cello in _zeit_ is out there. the electronic-ish drums on _atem_ are great. amazing stuff i've only just heard this instant. whew. now if there were only one decent place to start with schulze... micah stupak benthic recordings : soundings from unexplored places micah@benthic.cc .. www.benthic.cc - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 13:55:44 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: (fax) tangerine dream no longer tangerine snooze In a message dated 11/30/04 12:51:11 PM Central Standard Time, micah@benthic.cc writes: > whew. now if there were only one decent place to start with schulze...>>>> Blackdance....Timewind.....Picture Music....X any of those 4 are a good place to start RL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 20:10:54 +0100 From: Richard Hughes Subject: Re: (fax) Sad World I+II pressing error To re-quote PK himself confirming this from my earlier post: "In this letter to Gerald someone said that there was a problem especially with the SAD WORLD I+II CD on the first two tracks...I have an early version (promo) of the Instinct 2CD where the label printing was false " The first batch did indeed have the labels switched. This was later corrected. > Yup. The Instinct version had SW1 on the SW2 disc and vice versa. I'm > not > sure if the problem was ever corrected with later pressings or how > many pressings they actually did. My copy of "Sad World I & II" is correct--the discs are NOT switched. Peace. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:07:29 -0800 From: "Greg" Subject: Re: (fax) tangerine dream no longer tangerine snooze oh boy...another TD message...these guys are REALLY overrated...I have heard of there so-called classics...most are all garbage in my opinion. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "micah stupak" To: "faxfolk" Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 10:49 AM Subject: (fax) tangerine dream no longer tangerine snooze > hey, i think i finally get it. > > amongst all the phaedra/force majeure/rubycon/cyclone love spread about here i > never found anything (truly) worthwhile. "rubycon" is about the best i've > found, technically well-done but just missing a bit of human oomph. > > so why hasn't anyone ever recommended _zeit_ or _atem_? outside of the risky > business soundtrack (which i think i enjoyed less for the tunes than memories > of the sensations that movie gave my tender young mind), this has got to be the > best work i've heard from these guys. that cello in _zeit_ is out there. the > electronic-ish drums on _atem_ are great. amazing stuff i've only just heard > this instant. > > whew. now if there were only one decent place to start with schulze... > > micah stupak > benthic recordings : soundings from unexplored places > micah@benthic.cc .. www.benthic.cc > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 20:39:22 +0100 From: Alexander S.Kunz Subject: Re: (fax) tangerine dream no longer tangerine snooze Hello micah stupak & everyone else 30-Nov-2004 19:49, you wrote: > amongst all the phaedra/force majeure/rubycon/cyclone love spread about here i > never found anything (truly) worthwhile. I like "Green Desert" a lot. :) > whew. now if there were only one decent place to start with schulze... The "Live @ Klangart" live album is pretty good IMHO... and in another HO of mine, the DSOTM series is veeeeery overrated. :) - -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Once an idea has been generated within the mind, it may no longer be wholly under the control of the consciousness which gave it birth, but it may operate autonomously on other minds as well as the physical world. -- H. H. Price ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:01:01 -0500 From: "Burton Thomas" Subject: Re: (fax) tangerine dream no longer tangerine snooze - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg" To: "micah stupak" Subject: Re: (fax) tangerine dream no longer tangerine snooze Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:07:29 -0800 >=20 > oh boy...another TD message...these guys are REALLY overrated...I have he= ard > of there so-called classics...most are all garbage in my opinion. I think its important to remember "context" when discussing TD. We have ha= d twenty-five years of development of electronic music since TD produced th= e "so-called classics." In the seventies, there wasn't much of this type o= f music around. In its own way, it was as revolutionary as the Sex Pistols= . In my opinion, TD and Punk were anti-Prog, anti-rock, and anti-singer/so= ngwriter. TD's music followed almost naturally from the long, instrumental= jamming of the 60's psychedelic bands and provided the basis (along with t= he dreaded Disco) for most synthesizer-based dance music that followed.=20= =20 Almost everything TD produced after leaving Virgin Records wasn't worth hea= ring and much of their work, including the "classics," pales in comparison = to contemporary music. However, I think they were a major influence for ma= ny musicians working with electronic instrumentation in the 90's, and today= , including those who have recorded for Fax. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:07:26 -0600 (CST) From: Trevor Cordes Subject: Re: (fax) tangerine dream no longer tangerine snooze On 30 Nov, Burton Thomas wrote: > > I think its important to remember "context" when discussing TD. We Too true. Good post, Burton. One thing I'll add: TD has always been about strong melodies on top of flowing 8th & 16th note synth lines. I think the melodies keep the music listenable over the years and the synth sequences keep your brain engaged. Sure it sounds a bit simple compared to today's stuff, but for the 70's and 80's I don't think anyone was doing sequenced stuff like that. It definitely influenced 80's synth pop in that regard. Try the overlooked releases: Exit & Underwater Sunlight. Also, I'm one of the few who likes Cyclone and Canyon Dreams. 220 Volt Live is good for their "recent" stuff: try track 6 VERY LOUD on a good stereo. Trust me... And to make this email "fax-relevant" :-) Keep in mind that FAX has (at least) 2 tracks named directly for TD stuff: Outland 3 - Keeper of the Purple Twilight (see TD's exit) Glitch - Throbbing Dream of Tangerine Gristle (great name) And there are more than a few FAX tracks that harken back to the TD-sequenced sound, though I can't quite place the names right now. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 17:23:36 -0800 From: Rafael Almeria Subject: Re: (fax) tangerine dream no longer tangerine snooze >> whew. now if there were only one decent place to start with >> schulze...>>>> > > Blackdance....Timewind.....Picture Music....X I have nearly everything in his catalogue and I would probably rate the following as my favorites: EN=Trance Audentity X Timewind Blackdance Dresden - --Rafael ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 20:43:26 -0500 From: Max Lincourt Subject: (fax) Limelight's Loca Aspera question ... Loca Aspera is one of those old-school acid tracks that stick to my ears, in a good way. Has it ever been on a soundtrack of some sort ? Seems that I heard it somewhere else; but I don't remember where or when. any idea or is it a figment of my imagination ? Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 22:48:03 -0500 From: "jackthetab" Subject: Re: (fax) tangerine dream no longer tangerine snooze > oh boy...another TD message...these guys are REALLY overrated...I have heard > of there so-called classics...most are all garbage in my opinion. well certainly i have heard this before, but i would have to disagree with you. of course that would also depend on what you are calling classics. i tend to find phaedra/force majeure/rubycon/the first track on stratosfear/green desert/ricochet. i like zeit, but i think that is harder for people to get into. that album is also one recommended for audiophiles testing out their goods. infact, most of the "pink years" is difficult to get into. their "virgin years" era seemed to have the best sound, at least for me. yes, the music sounds dated, but that is because it is dated. the electronics back then were not what we have today. i think they did wonders with their sounds for the time period. certainly a respectful period. much of the music released in the 80's to present is just plain awful. it is more new agey than anything. you could hear the change in the late 70's infact. >The "Live @ Klangart" live album is pretty good IMHO... and in another HO >of mine, the DSOTM series is veeeeery overrated. :) i tend to agree that the dsotm's are rather weak. i do like dsotm iv however. it is the only one i have been able to get into. i have v, but it has not reached the cd player yet. kunst und wahnsinn, jackthetab #####\ _ /##### #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# ##### | /_woof/ | ##### #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# #####/ ######/ \###### \##### /_______________________________________\ die Intensität eines Automobilunfalles, ist einfach erstaunlich. http://jackthetab.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 22:57:26 -0500 From: "jackthetab" Subject: Re: (fax) tangerine dream no longer tangerine snooze >Throbbing Dream of Tangerine Gristle (great name) this is one of my favorite track titles. although, these are great too... "where we chill out" "cloud of orion" "ufo detection system" "maintaining scan for ufos" "do bassdrums have feelings" "the fires of ork" "lunar icing" "the synthesizer experience" oh, i have run amok. kunst und wahnsinn, jackthetab #####\ _ /##### #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# ##### | /_woof/ | ##### #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# #####/ ######/ \###### \##### /_______________________________________\ die Intensität eines Automobilunfalles, ist einfach erstaunlich. http://jackthetab.org - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor Cordes" To: "Fax List" Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 4:07 PM Subject: Re: (fax) tangerine dream no longer tangerine snooze > On 30 Nov, Burton Thomas wrote: > > > > I think its important to remember "context" when discussing TD. We > > Too true. Good post, Burton. > > One thing I'll add: TD has always been about strong melodies on top of > flowing 8th & 16th note synth lines. I think the melodies keep the > music listenable over the years and the synth sequences keep your brain > engaged. Sure it sounds a bit simple compared to today's stuff, but for > the 70's and 80's I don't think anyone was doing sequenced stuff like > that. It definitely influenced 80's synth pop in that regard. > > Try the overlooked releases: Exit & Underwater Sunlight. Also, I'm one > of the few who likes Cyclone and Canyon Dreams. 220 Volt Live is good > for their "recent" stuff: try track 6 VERY LOUD on a good stereo. Trust > me... > > And to make this email "fax-relevant" :-) Keep in mind that FAX has (at > least) 2 tracks named directly for TD stuff: > > Outland 3 - Keeper of the Purple Twilight (see TD's exit) > Glitch - Throbbing Dream of Tangerine Gristle (great name) > > And there are more than a few FAX tracks that harken back to the > TD-sequenced sound, though I can't quite place the names right now. > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 21:22:26 -0800 From: "Greg" Subject: Fw: (fax) tangerine dream no longer tangerine snooze Jack, I enjoy ALL those song names as well....Maintaining scan for ufos! gotta love that one! I also like "Future Surfacing What lies ahead"..."Brain to Midi"..."A million Miles to earth"..this last one could be my favorite! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg" To: "Greg" Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:21 PM Subject: Fw: (fax) tangerine dream no longer tangerine snooze > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Greg" > To: "jackthetab" > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:20 PM > Subject: Re: (fax) tangerine dream no longer tangerine snooze > > > > Jack, > > > > I enjoy ALL those song names as well....Maintaining scan for ufos! gotta > > love that one! I also like "Future Surfacing What lies ahead"..."Brain to > > Midi"..."A million Miles to earth"..this last one could be my favorite! > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "jackthetab" > > To: "Trevor Cordes" ; "Fax List" > > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 7:57 PM > > Subject: Re: (fax) tangerine dream no longer tangerine snooze > > > > > > > >Throbbing Dream of Tangerine Gristle (great name) > > > > > > this is one of my favorite track titles. > > > although, these are great too... > > > > > > "where we chill out" > > > "cloud of orion" > > > "ufo detection system" > > > "maintaining scan for ufos" > > > "do bassdrums have feelings" > > > "the fires of ork" > > > "lunar icing" > > > "the synthesizer experience" > > > > > > oh, i have run amok. > > > > > > kunst und wahnsinn, > > > jackthetab > > > > > > #####\ _ /##### > > > #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# > > > ##### | /_woof/ | ##### > > > #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# > > > # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # > > > #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# > > > #####/ ######/ \###### \##### > > > /_______________________________________\ > > > die Intensität eines Automobilunfalles, > > > ist einfach erstaunlich. > > > http://jackthetab.org > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Trevor Cordes" > > > To: "Fax List" > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 4:07 PM > > > Subject: Re: (fax) tangerine dream no longer tangerine snooze > > > > > > > > > > On 30 Nov, Burton Thomas wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I think its important to remember "context" when discussing TD. We > > > > > > > > Too true. Good post, Burton. > > > > > > > > One thing I'll add: TD has always been about strong melodies on top of > > > > flowing 8th & 16th note synth lines. I think the melodies keep the > > > > music listenable over the years and the synth sequences keep your > brain > > > > engaged. Sure it sounds a bit simple compared to today's stuff, but > for > > > > the 70's and 80's I don't think anyone was doing sequenced stuff like > > > > that. It definitely influenced 80's synth pop in that regard. > > > > > > > > Try the overlooked releases: Exit & Underwater Sunlight. Also, I'm > one > > > > of the few who likes Cyclone and Canyon Dreams. 220 Volt Live is good > > > > for their "recent" stuff: try track 6 VERY LOUD on a good stereo. > Trust > > > > me... > > > > > > > > And to make this email "fax-relevant" :-) Keep in mind that FAX has > (at > > > > least) 2 tracks named directly for TD stuff: > > > > > > > > Outland 3 - Keeper of the Purple Twilight (see TD's exit) > > > > Glitch - Throbbing Dream of Tangerine Gristle (great name) > > > > > > > > And there are more than a few FAX tracks that harken back to the > > > > TD-sequenced sound, though I can't quite place the names right now. > > > > > > > > --- > > > > + To post: ; to mail a person: > > > > > > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > > > > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > + To post: ; to mail a person: > > > > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > > > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 04:25:05 -0500 From: theREALmxyzptlk Subject: (fax) FA eBay More up (scroll past vinyl)... Modula Green (FAX PS 08/75), Peter Benisch, Dominik Eulberg (Traum-SEALED), Flatic (Plop, Japan), Pola (Plop, Japan), Micro Blue (Plop, Japan), Sort (Plop, Japan), new Soft Pink Truth, Atelia, MuM, Bakelite, Melodium, Runeology (Rune Grammofon), Her Space Holiday remixed, Sascha Funke (BPitch Ctrl), Fingathing (Ninjatune), Savath & Savalas (Warp), Gravenhurst (Warp), As One, It's a Trap! V/A, T. Raumschmiere, Crackhaus, DFA Compilation 2 (3xCD), David Dondero, Telephone Jim Jesus, more. No reserves - thanks! http://tinyurl.com/4jrnd OR http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&include=0&since=-1&rdir=0&rows=75&userid=*jpklein* seller id = *jpklein* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 10:56:43 +0000 From: Paul Milligan Subject: (fax) tangerine snoozing on 30/11/2004 6:49 pm, micah stupak at micah@benthic.cc wrote: > so why hasn't anyone ever recommended _zeit_ .... > best work i've heard from these guys. that cello in _zeit_ is out there. er, check back a couple of weeks, I RAVED on this one (but came in for a bit of predictable flaming) ... Zeit is an excellent work and although it pre-dates Atem I still think better. (Ricochet is my favourite incidentally.) Nice link too (ie. cello) into the aforementioned Live @ Klangart discs by KS ... proving imo that Schulze still has 'something' 99% of other EM artists don't. The DSOTM series is a bit of a mixed bag yes but, I think they got it together pretty impressively on 5 & 6. However, 9 was the one! ------------------------------ End of faxlist-digest V2004 #82 ******************************* --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org