From: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org (faxlist-digest) To: faxlist-digest@monkey.org Subject: faxlist-digest V2004 #83 Reply-To: faxlist@2350.org Sender: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Errors-To: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Precedence: bulk faxlist-digest Friday, December 3 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 083 (fax) Song titles / trivia / my endlessly repeated new released question (fax) Fax trivia questions. Re: (fax) Limelight's Loca Aspera question ... Fw: (fax) Limelight's Loca Aspera question ... RE: (fax) Fax trivia questions. RE: (fax) Song titles / trivia / my endlessly repeated new released question (fax) RE: faxlist-digest V2004 #82 Re: (fax) Fax trivia questions. Re: (fax) RE: faxlist-digest V2004 #82 RE: (fax) RE: faxlist-digest V2004 #82 (fax) original Second Nature on eBay RE: (fax) Fax trivia questions. (fax) Fax trivia questions/origin of the octopus (fax) OT - Dave's Dog Re: (fax) Song titles / trivia / my endlessly repeated new released question Re: (fax) tangerine dream no longer tangerine snooze Re: (fax) OT - Dave's Dog Re: (fax) OT - Dave's Dog Re: (fax) Sad World I+II pressing error (fax) OT- list moderator? Re: (fax) OT- list moderator? Re: (fax) Sad World I+II pressing error (fax) FA: 4 Voice II (PK08/142), Music For Ballet (PK08/91), Shades of Orion 2 (PW20) (fax) FAX price increase (fax) Transonic & Time2 (fax) steve stoll - was here - ps 08/102 - first thoughts Re: (fax) Transonic & Time2 Re: (fax) FAX price increase Re: (fax) FAX price increase ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 12:43:14 +0100 From: "Martin Jones" Subject: (fax) Song titles / trivia / my endlessly repeated new released question

I too dig those song titles...I notice that "Do Bassdrums Have Feelings" seems to be a statement rather than a question...rather like "Have Suitcase Will Travel" :-)

My fave song titles include

Waiting For Snow

Careful With The AKS, Peter

With A Medium Into Trance

Looking For Grasshoppers

and of course

Thankfully, Coming From Upper Cwntwrch It Doesn't Apply      

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Those trivia questions, no idea really...maybe number 1 is, er, Sad World? Nah, no idea at all...

Number 2, hmmm, I don't think it's one I've got, maybe, er, Sad World? :-)

I look forward to the rest of the series, and having no clue about those either...(!)

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When can we expect more Fax goodies? Virtual Vices 5? DSOTM 10? Both these were mooted last year, but nada so far...any info on upcoming releases anyone? Mr. K? :-/

 

------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 14:12:45 +0100 From: richardhughes@planet.nl Subject: (fax) Fax trivia questions. >>Some Fax trivia questions: >>Q1: What was the first Fax CD to have the Fax symbol font? >>Q2: Which Fax CD is missing the catalog # on the spine? >>More later. :) Missed these first time round - thx to Martin for reminding me - pretty sure answers are: q1: AMP q2: Silence PK 08/25 ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 18:58:35 +0100 From: Richard Hughes Subject: Re: (fax) Limelight's Loca Aspera question ... > Loca Aspera is one of those old-school acid tracks that stick to my > ears, in a good way. > > Has it ever been on a soundtrack of some sort ? > > Seems that I heard it somewhere else; but I don't remember where or when. > > any idea or is it a figment of my imagination ? > > Thanks. > --- The only thing I can think is that it sounds vaguely like that 303 track from the Blade soundtrack, which itself was I think a rip-off of the Pump Panel remix of "Confusion" by New Order. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 19:02:23 +0100 From: Richard Hughes Subject: Fw: (fax) Limelight's Loca Aspera question ... > > The only thing I can think is that it sounds vaguely like that 303 track > from the Blade soundtrack, which itself was I think a rip-off of the Pump > Panel remix of "Confusion" by New Order. > > --- Actually turns out it *was* the Pump Panel remix on the Blade soundtrack (not a rip-off). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 14:13:20 -0500 From: "joey@etherworld.com" Subject: RE: (fax) Fax trivia questions. Richard, Good guesses but both incorrect=2E :-) Anyone else wanna try? _joe Original Message: - ----------------- From: richardhughes@planet=2Enl Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 14:12:45 +0100 To: faxlist@2350=2Eorg Subject: (fax) Fax trivia questions=2E >>Some Fax trivia questions: >>Q1: What was the first Fax CD to have the Fax symbol font? >>Q2: Which Fax CD is missing the catalog # on the spine? >>More later=2E :) Missed these first time round - thx to Martin for reminding me - pretty sure answers are: q1: AMP q2: Silence PK 08/25 ;-) - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web=2Ecom/ =2E ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 14:17:35 -0500 From: "joey@etherworld.com" Subject: RE: (fax) Song titles / trivia / my endlessly repeated new released question Martin, Nope, not Sad World for either one=2E :) The questions were as follows: Q1: What was the first Fax CD to have the Fax symbol font?=20 Q2: Which Fax CD is missing the catalog # on the spine?=20 Hint: Both are different and both of the World (PW) label=2E - -Joe Original Message: - ----------------- From: Martin Jones merg2003@hotmail=2Ecom Those trivia questions, no idea really=2E=2E=2Emaybe number 1 is, er, Sad = World? Nah, no idea at all=2E=2E=2E

Number 2, hmmm, I don't think it's one I've got, maybe, er, Sad World? :-) - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web=2Ecom/ =2E ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 21:30:43 +0000 From: "chris davidson" Subject: (fax) RE: faxlist-digest V2004 #82 >Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 12:25:46 -0500 >From: "joey@etherworld.com" >Subject: Re: (fax) Sad World I+II pressing error >Some Fax trivia questions: > >Q1: What was the first Fax CD to have the Fax symbol font? >Q2: Which Fax CD is missing the catalog # on the spine? > >More later=2E :) > >- -Joe > Q2: 2350 Broadway 2, I knew this one because it's one of the more expensive fax items I've bought and I was a bit freaked out at first (sad I know) when it was missing the catalogue number. > Q1: Amp? My own train spotter question, which release from the PK, PW or PS series is on a CD that has no colouring on the top apart from the writing? (I only have one in my collection that I know of anyway!) Chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 23:03:26 +0100 From: Richard Hughes Subject: Re: (fax) Fax trivia questions. Yep got muddled up with Silence, just checked - PK 08/25 is missing the Fax number not the Cat. No. But still not convinced about the Fax font one..? I thought AMP was released a couple of weeks before Ozoona... - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: 01 December, 2004 20:13 Subject: RE: (fax) Fax trivia questions. Richard, Good guesses but both incorrect. :-) Anyone else wanna try? _joe Original Message: - ----------------- From: richardhughes@planet.nl Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 14:12:45 +0100 To: faxlist@2350.org Subject: (fax) Fax trivia questions. >>Some Fax trivia questions: >>Q1: What was the first Fax CD to have the Fax symbol font? >>Q2: Which Fax CD is missing the catalog # on the spine? >>More later. :) Missed these first time round - thx to Martin for reminding me - pretty sure answers are: q1: AMP q2: Silence PK 08/25 ;-) - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 23:04:52 +0100 From: Richard Hughes Subject: Re: (fax) RE: faxlist-digest V2004 #82 > > My own train spotter question, which release from the PK, PW or PS series > is on a CD that has no colouring on the top apart from the writing? (I > only have one in my collection that I know of anyway!) > > > Chris > Deltraxx? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 15:51:51 -0700 From: Graham Banting Subject: RE: (fax) RE: faxlist-digest V2004 #82 Sprya - Phonehead >===== Original Message From Richard Hughes ===== >> >> My own train spotter question, which release from the PK, PW or PS series >> is on a CD that has no colouring on the top apart from the writing? (I >> only have one in my collection that I know of anyway!) >> >> >> Chris >> > >Deltraxx? > > >--- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 15:57:49 -0700 From: Dave at FAX Label USA Subject: (fax) original Second Nature on eBay After liquidating a collection, I'm putting the leftovers on eBay. For now, just Second Nature: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?item=4056797259 (Note: I am not "Sam Podog". "Sampo" is my dog's name.) Next time I'll try to be better about putting up a bunch at once so I don't keep sending emails about one CD at a time. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 19:21:28 -0500 From: "Burton Thomas" Subject: RE: (fax) Fax trivia questions. Lets try: Octopus 2 in the PS series Amp in the PK series Ozoona in the PW series But which came first? How about Octopus 2? And I believe that 2350 Braodway2 is the correct answere for the missing nu= mber question. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "joey@etherworld.com" To: richardhughes@planet.nl, faxlist@2350.org Subject: RE: (fax) Fax trivia questions. Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 14:13:20 -0500 >=20 > Richard, >=20 > Good guesses but both incorrect. :-) >=20 > Anyone else wanna try? >=20 > _joe >=20 >=20 >=20 > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: richardhughes@planet.nl > Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 14:12:45 +0100 > To: faxlist@2350.org > Subject: (fax) Fax trivia questions. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > >> Some Fax trivia questions: >=20 > >> Q1: What was the first Fax CD to have the Fax symbol font? > >> Q2: Which Fax CD is missing the catalog # on the spine? >=20 > >> More later. :) >=20 > Missed these first time round - thx to Martin for reminding me - pretty > sure answers are: >=20 > q1: AMP > q2: Silence PK 08/25 >=20 > ;-) >=20 >=20 >=20 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . >=20 >=20 > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 19:42:41 -0500 From: "joey@etherworld.com" Subject: (fax) Fax trivia questions/origin of the octopus Actually, for the Fax symbol font I was thinking of Ozoona but forgot abou= t AMP, oops=2E I think AMP=20 was actually released first=2E Sub Label one I'm not sure about, could be Octopus 2=2E Funny story about Octopus releases, not sure if anyone knew this but Octopus are the releases of=20 Charles Uzzell-Edwards which most of you know ran FAX Label USA for US distribution=2E I used to go=20 to his flat on Church street near Market street in San Francisco to pick u= p new FAX relases=20 sometimes=2E He had his recording studio set up in his living room which consisted of a= bunch of keyboards,=20 some reel-to-reel tape recorders and an old apple IIe which he said made weird electronic sounds=20 sometimes that he'd record and manipulate=2E He called his set up an Octopus because that's whatit reminded him of, lot= s of cables going=20 everywhere and stuff=2E - -Joe Original Message: - ----------------- From: Burton Thomas ambientity@email=2Ecom Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 19:21:28 -0500 To: joey@etherworld=2Ecom, faxlist@2350=2Eorg Subject: RE: (fax) Fax trivia questions=2E Lets try: Octopus 2 in the PS series Amp in the PK series Ozoona in the PW series But which came first? How about Octopus 2? And I believe that 2350 Braodway2 is the correct answere for the missing number question=2E - ----- Original Message ----- From: "joey@etherworld=2Ecom" To: richardhughes@planet=2Enl, faxlist@2350=2Eorg Subject: RE: (fax) Fax trivia questions=2E Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 14:13:20 -0500 >=20 > Richard, >=20 > Good guesses but both incorrect=2E :-) >=20 > Anyone else wanna try? >=20 > _joe >=20 >=20 >=20 > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: richardhughes@planet=2Enl > Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 14:12:45 +0100 > To: faxlist@2350=2Eorg > Subject: (fax) Fax trivia questions=2E >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > >> Some Fax trivia questions: >=20 > >> Q1: What was the first Fax CD to have the Fax symbol font? > >> Q2: Which Fax CD is missing the catalog # on the spine? >=20 > >> More later=2E :) >=20 > Missed these first time round - thx to Martin for reminding me - pretty > sure answers are: >=20 > q1: AMP > q2: Silence PK 08/25 >=20 > ;-) >=20 >=20 >=20 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web=2Ecom/ =2E >=20 >=20 > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www=2Ehyperreal=2Eorg/fax www=2E2350=2Eorg - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web=2Ecom/ =2E ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 19:21:05 -0800 (PST) From: ambient Subject: (fax) OT - Dave's Dog - --- Dave at FAX Label USA wrote: > (Note: I am not > "Sam Podog". "Sampo" is my dog's name.) slightly differnt, in japanese, 散歩, "SaNpo" means "Walk" my girlfriend's dog loves this word. he has no idea what i mean when i ask him, "you wanna go for a walk!" Nice name for a dog, Dave. *scout* np: the hardtrancemania (w/commander tom) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 22:37:04 -0500 From: "jackthetab" Subject: Re: (fax) Song titles / trivia / my endlessly repeated new released question >Q1: What was the first Fax CD to have the Fax symbol >font? shades 3 or ozoona kunst und wahnsinn, jackthetab #####\ _ /##### #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# ##### | /_woof/ | ##### #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# #####/ ######/ \###### \##### /_______________________________________\ die Intensität eines Automobilunfalles, ist einfach erstaunlich. http://jackthetab.org - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 2:17 PM Subject: RE: (fax) Song titles / trivia / my endlessly repeated new released question Martin, Nope, not Sad World for either one. :) The questions were as follows: Q1: What was the first Fax CD to have the Fax symbol font? Q2: Which Fax CD is missing the catalog # on the spine? Hint: Both are different and both of the World (PW) label. - -Joe Original Message: - ----------------- From: Martin Jones merg2003@hotmail.com Those trivia questions, no idea really...maybe number 1 is, er, Sad World? Nah, no idea at all...

Number 2, hmmm, I don't think it's one I've got, maybe, er, Sad World? :-) - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 22:52:04 -0500 From: "jackthetab" Subject: Re: (fax) tangerine dream no longer tangerine snooze >Jack, > >I enjoy ALL those song names as well.... >Maintaining scan for ufos! gotta >love that one! I also like "Future Surfacing >What lies ahead"..."Brain to >Midi"..."A million Miles to earth"..this last >one could be my favorite! "a million miles to earth" popped into my head after i hit the send button. certainly is a great track. invokes many visuals. kunst und wahnsinn, jackthetab #####\ _ /##### #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# ##### | /_woof/ | ##### #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# #####/ ######/ \###### \##### /_______________________________________\ die Intensität eines Automobilunfalles, ist einfach erstaunlich. http://jackthetab.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 23:36:27 -0500 From: MuzikJunky Subject: Re: (fax) OT - Dave's Dog > slightly differnt, in japanese, 散歩, > "SaNpo" means "Walk" Actually, it's "sanpo suru" $B!J$5$s$]$9$k!K(Bto be exact. Without "suru" (to do) it's a noun. Peace. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 21:06:44 -0800 (PST) From: ambient Subject: Re: (fax) OT - Dave's Dog Will you stop trying to lecture ME on Japanese. I am the one living in Japan and speaking Japanese... not like you, a mere student at an American College. - --- MuzikJunky wrote: > > slightly differnt, in japanese, > »¶Êâ, > > "SaNpo" means "Walk" > > Actually, it's "sanpo suru" ¡Ê¤µ¤ó¤Ý¤¹¤ë¡Ëto be > exact. no it isn't, not in my example from my previous email. > Without "suru" (to do) > it's a noun. exactly! refer to my example; > i ask him, "you wanna go for a walk!" that is a noun in English. (maybe you should brush up on your English classes as well as your Japanese) Sanpo ni ikimasho. = Let's go for a walk. that is a noun. ya know, 'a walk', not 'to walk'. English 101. in the states, i never said to my dog, "Let's walk", it was always "Let's go for a walk" will you please email offlist for further lessons. *scout* np - Stardust > slightly differnt, in japanese, »¶Êâ, > "SaNpo" means "Walk" > > my girlfriend's dog loves this word. > he has no idea what i mean when > i ask him, "you wanna go for a walk!" > > Nice name for a dog, Dave. > > *scout* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 07:50:06 -0600 (CST) From: Trevor Cordes Subject: Re: (fax) Sad World I+II pressing error On 29 Nov, jackthetab wrote: > hmmm, i havent heard this before. i will have to check > to see if my copy is like that. funny how it was missed > for so long? My copy (and another copy I used to have) were both backwards. I didn't know a properly labelled copy existed! It did confuse the heck out of me for about 1 minute when I first ran into it ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 06:43:02 -0800 (PST) From: djgyn forever Subject: (fax) OT- list moderator? Can someone please direct me to a list moderator? Sorry to intrude on the conversation. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 11:39:39 -0500 (EST) From: "Stephen Philips" Subject: Re: (fax) OT- list moderator? djgyn forever > Can someone please direct me to a list moderator? > > Sorry to intrude on the conversation. Just post something like I LOVE BRITNEY SPEARS' NEW CD and you'll find the moderator real quick ;-) :-:-:-:-:-:-: Stephen Philips Dark Duck Records http://www.darkduck.net Drone Download Project | http://www.darkduck.net/drone.htm Dissonance Records [guitar::noise::experimental::shoegazer] | http://www.dissonancerecords.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 19:59:17 -0000 From: "izam studio" Subject: Re: (fax) Sad World I+II pressing error wow , that would have scared me to death in a certain frame of mind . . . !though it may have sounded better:) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor Cordes" To: "Fax List" Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 1:50 PM Subject: Re: (fax) Sad World I+II pressing error > On 29 Nov, jackthetab wrote: > > hmmm, i havent heard this before. i will have to check > > to see if my copy is like that. funny how it was missed > > for so long? > > My copy (and another copy I used to have) were both backwards. I didn't > know a properly labelled copy existed! It did confuse the heck out of > me for about 1 minute when I first ran into it ;-) > > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 21:31:32 -0000 From: "David Calvert" Subject: (fax) FA: 4 Voice II (PK08/142), Music For Ballet (PK08/91), Shades of Orion 2 (PW20) Just listed ... PETE NAMLOOK - 4 Voice II (FAX PK08/142) http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1577&item=4057532962 PETE NAMLOOK - Music For Ballet (FAX PK08/91) http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1577&item=4057534629 PETE NAMLOOK/TETSU INOUE - Shades of Orion 2 (FAX PW20) http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1577&item=4057536200 Also some Larry Heard, Loop Guru, David Toop and Area Industries ... http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&userid=dakota.boo&include=0&sort=2 e-mail: dakota.boo@pop3.hiway.co.uk web page: http://boo.hiway.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 15:29:45 -0700 From: Dave at FAX Label USA Subject: (fax) FAX price increase Dear FAX folks, In 11 years, FAX has never raised their "suggested retail price" of $13 for CDs. Now, with poor exchange rates and increasing costs, FAX is forced to raise prices. The fact is, Namlook and the artists are just barely making a profit at this point and a price increase will help the artists and ensure Namlook is able to keep the label going. Effective immediately, FAX's suggested retail pricing will be as follows: Regular CDs: $15 retail Double CDs (e.g., Dots): $25 retail MP3-CDs: $25 retail This amounts to a 15% increase for regular CDs, a 4% increase for doubles, and a 9% increase for MP3-CDs. Given the fact that the price has remained stable for so long, we feel this is a fair increase. We have already changed our catalog to reflect these new retail prices, but you will no doubt be able to find other vendors who have stock on hand, and I'd expect that since they've already paid for those CDs, they'll charge their old price for them. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 20:55:11 -0600 From: Trevor Cordes Subject: (fax) Transonic & Time2 Just a quick note... just finished listening to Time^2 and Transonic 1. Transonic 1 has really grown on me. It wasn't a favorite at first but now it's definitely a top-10. I can't find a weak track on the whole thing, and it all blends so nice with that ever-present Laswell-esque bass. Why are the subsequent 2 Transonics not as good? I'll have to relisten... Time^2 I have a harder time with. The tracks start out sounding like wonderful old-style Inoue ambient but then these whacked out beats come on. I hate to say it but it almost sounds like TI laid down some great ideas and then shipped it to PK who threw some strange Namlook X style percussion on top and ruined it. It just doesn't gel most of the time. Or is it just me? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 00:01:14 -0500 From: "jackthetab" Subject: (fax) steve stoll - was here - ps 08/102 - first thoughts first impressions - a friend of mine was not impressed with the disc, so i listened skeptically. certainly not what i was expecting. no real ambience, just all beats. most tracks are minimal detriot techno sound. 'was here' sometimes resembles ritchie hawtin, but certainly has more of a wild electronic side. track seven is my highlight. good hard darker techno. not a bad disc. i enjoyed it, enough to play in the am. kunst und wahnsinn, jackthetab #####\ _ /##### #( )# | _( )__ | #( )# ##### | /_woof/ | ##### #" "# | ___m/I_ /_____ | #" "# # O # |____#-x.\ /++m\ /.x-#____| # O # #m.m# | /" \ ///###\\\ / "\ | #m.m# #####/ ######/ \###### \##### /_______________________________________\ die Intensität eines Automobilunfalles, ist einfach erstaunlich. http://jackthetab.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 08:58:23 -0000 From: "izam studio" Subject: Re: (fax) Transonic & Time2 Funny , i listened to time2 last night . . . first time . . . its a strange one , my partner looked at me and i knew instantly she was saying , what the hell are you playing with a kind of subtle glare !i didnt dislike but i was left thinking it didnt gel as a whole then at times i would think . . its me . .as got or made sense of a section . . . .its kind of like some of the fax stuff has the sounds but lacks the essence if you know what i mean , it has no definate time and space or place , sounds like someone or persons on synths making loops where as all the best stuff i find seems to allow you to forget this mage and creates and image way more potent of a particular innerlanscape or something else. . . .i remember someone who collected all the early fax stuff and then gave up saying to me ' i stopped buying fax when it began sounding like a guy on a synth jamming wierd noises and drum machines and recording it and not a composition '.In essnce i think some of the releases fall short in some respects as the other releases were so damn good , its innevitable.I scratched my head about time2 ! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor Cordes" To: "Fax List" Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 2:55 AM Subject: (fax) Transonic & Time2 > Just a quick note... just finished listening to Time^2 and Transonic 1. > Transonic 1 has really grown on me. It wasn't a favorite at first but now > it's definitely a top-10. I can't find a weak track on the whole thing, > and it all blends so nice with that ever-present Laswell-esque bass. Why > are the subsequent 2 Transonics not as good? I'll have to relisten... > > Time^2 I have a harder time with. The tracks start out sounding like > wonderful old-style Inoue ambient but then these whacked out beats come > on. I hate to say it but it almost sounds like TI laid down some great > ideas and then shipped it to PK who threw some strange Namlook X style > percussion on top and ruined it. It just doesn't gel most of the time. > Or is it just me? > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 09:25:52 -0000 From: "izam studio" Subject: Re: (fax) FAX price increase On this subject i would like to say i keep hearing people say cds are overpriced and i keep hearing people say this about elton john one minute and underground lables doing 1000 copies the next and thought about this alot i find it strange.I spoke to some people and its now common knowledge that whats happened is people have made a connection between cdrs bought for 40p and glass mastered cds bought for £10 ! and have begun to see cds in relation to what a cdr costs them (a terribly flawed concept.) An artist will take probably 3 months to write a decent album maybe less , working out the costs of studio time or gear , power , his rent or morgage , then the lables percentage , then the distributers percentage and then the shops percentage it becomes odvious that they arnt overpriced.I pay 25£ an hour to have my car fixed ! and i here people winge about paying £10 for a cd of an hours worth of music which took someone months to make (ok some some takes less but it takes effort) This price rise is cool and i think its about time people valued music more instead of making it a cheap and transient file or cdr thats binned . Apologies for the outburst but i think the mail here underlies a paranoia about cd prices . . .to be frank if you listen to some of the classic chilled music its actaully underprices in worth . . .especially in relation to what we pay for stuff like car repair and stuff . . . here in uk i pay £500 a year council tax . . for that they collect my rubbish and fuck all else quite frankly ! so please . . . support high cd prices for underground labels releasing works of art and i hope people begin to realise in relation to what the cds cost in shops the artists earn very little and sometimes not enough to make music a living often . . . $15 is cheap ! and anyone who says it isnt is deluding themselves out of selfishness as to the costs of a man writing for weeks and investing in his studio and cost of living and its not taking into account how many people earn off his artwork .When you buy music think of the artist . . .we really do underate them in this day and age alot , often so we can give ourselves a self built mentality and reason for getting things cheaper and copying. . . sorry but the slight apology in the post about price hikes i think indicates a genuine want to be fair and charge fairly but also reminds me labels and artists are so damn paranoid about charging what really is a fair price . . its time people were re-educated and people started to beleive for limited underground music cds are worth at least £10-$20 . . . its a limited work of art is it not? and look at the price they with fetch in years to come . . . . apologies for the rant but lets not undervalue or maintain this deluded thought the cds are overpriced . . its totally false when you look at the ecenomics of 1000 cds and all the people in the chain . . . in even more so when the album took months to make ! its strange how we pay so much for things like tax and car repair and plumbers and a meal in the uk out will cost £10 (and thats down the pan within 10 hours!)and yet we all have begun to beleive cds are overpriced or have started to build up the notion they are . . .an hours worth of work by an artist like namlook somedays i think is priceless . . . lets start to build this notion about good musicians instead of maintaining the thoughtform thats been built to give license to peoples greed. Not meant to be a rant but . . . . i just feel labels sell themselves cheap alot and feel guilty about charging whats a cheap price due to the thought process thats has been created since the advent of cdr and the transient nature of file downloading.We always undervalue the essential and most eternal things in life and pay shiteloads of money to governments and idiots for doping nothing ) On a more positive note , the sun just came out here :) i welcome the increase and welcome people waking up to the true worth of music. Sorry again for intensity . . . . i dont like to see labels apologise in a sense for charging fair prices or having to up prices . . . but understand thats alot about trying to appear fair in the face of a public who seems to be deluded as to the true worth of limited music on cd . Does that make sense? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave at FAX Label USA" To: Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 10:29 PM Subject: (fax) FAX price increase > Dear FAX folks, > > In 11 years, FAX has never raised their "suggested retail price" of $13 > for CDs. Now, with poor exchange rates and increasing costs, FAX is > forced to raise prices. The fact is, Namlook and the artists are just > barely making a profit at this point and a price increase will help the > artists and ensure Namlook is able to keep the label going. > > Effective immediately, FAX's suggested retail pricing will be as follows: > > Regular CDs: $15 retail > Double CDs (e.g., Dots): $25 retail > MP3-CDs: $25 retail > > This amounts to a 15% increase for regular CDs, a 4% increase for > doubles, and a 9% increase for MP3-CDs. Given the fact that the price > has remained stable for so long, we feel this is a fair increase. > > We have already changed our catalog to reflect these new retail prices, > but you will no doubt be able to find other vendors who have stock on > hand, and I'd expect that since they've already paid for those CDs, > they'll charge their old price for them. > > Dave > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 05:37:17 -0600 From: Krackmonster Subject: Re: (fax) FAX price increase Figured something like this was going to happen anyway with the poor exchange rates coming about lately. Thursday, December 2, 2004, 4:29:45 PM, you wrote: DaFLU> Dear FAX folks, DaFLU> In 11 years, FAX has never raised their "suggested retail price" of $13 DaFLU> for CDs. Now, with poor exchange rates and increasing costs, FAX is DaFLU> forced to raise prices. The fact is, Namlook and the artists are just DaFLU> barely making a profit at this point and a price increase will help the DaFLU> artists and ensure Namlook is able to keep the label going. DaFLU> Effective immediately, FAX's suggested retail pricing will be as follows: DaFLU> Regular CDs: $15 retail DaFLU> Double CDs (e.g., Dots): $25 retail DaFLU> MP3-CDs: $25 retail DaFLU> This amounts to a 15% increase for regular CDs, a 4% increase for DaFLU> doubles, and a 9% increase for MP3-CDs. Given the fact that the price DaFLU> has remained stable for so long, we feel this is a fair increase. DaFLU> We have already changed our catalog to reflect these new retail prices, DaFLU> but you will no doubt be able to find other vendors who have stock on DaFLU> hand, and I'd expect that since they've already paid for those CDs, DaFLU> they'll charge their old price for them. DaFLU> Dave DaFLU> --- DaFLU> + To post: ; to mail a person: DaFLU> + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to DaFLU> + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org - -- Best regards, Krackmonster mailto:kracker@krackmonster.com ------------------------------ End of faxlist-digest V2004 #83 ******************************* --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org