From: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org (faxlist-digest) To: faxlist-digest@monkey.org Subject: faxlist-digest V2005 #6 Reply-To: faxlist@2350.org Sender: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Errors-To: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org Precedence: bulk faxlist-digest Tuesday, February 1 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 006 (fax) RE: WHAT'S NEXT FOR FAX? Re: (fax) RE: WHAT'S NEXT FOR FAX? Re: (fax) RE: WHAT'S NEXT FOR FAX? Re: (fax) RE: WHAT'S NEXT FOR FAX? (fax) FAX: Mind Tranceference Control Re: (fax) RE: WHAT'S NEXT FOR FAX? (fax) fa : daisy world tour (fax) next for fax Re: (fax) FAX: Mind Tranceference Control Re: (fax) next for fax Re: (fax) next for fax Re: (fax) next for fax Re: (fax) next for fax Re: (fax) next for fax Re: (fax) next for fax Re: (fax) RE: WHAT'S NEXT FOR FAX? Re: (fax) next for fax Re: (fax) next for fax (fax) next for fax/cover art Re: (fax) next for fax Re: (fax) next for fax Re: (fax) next for fax (fax) speaking of Shulze... Re: (fax) next for fax Fwd: (fax) next for fax/cover art Re: (fax) next for fax/cover art Re: (fax) next for fax/cover art Re: (fax) next for fax/cover art -- schulze re-issue Re: (fax) next for fax (fax) Schulze / Fax artwork ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 13:03:08 +0100 From: "Martin Jones" Subject: (fax) RE: WHAT'S NEXT FOR FAX? Anybody know what's coming out when... ? Just >curious, I need me some more ambient crack! > >John W. You're not the only one John...seems to be all quiet on the news front...those in the know aren't saying...I think there should be some new stuff in the pipeline...someone must know something more solid than that though! :-/ >From: owner-faxlist-digest@2350.org (faxlist-digest) >Reply-To: faxlist@2350.org >To: faxlist-digest@monkey.org >Subject: faxlist-digest V2005 #5 >Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 23:54:42 -0500 (EST) > >faxlist-digest Friday, January 28 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 005 > > > >(fax) FA: eBay >(fax) WHAT'S NEXT FOR FAX? >Re: (fax) planetarium II >(fax) FA: ebay > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:58:35 -0500 >From: Organicnavel@aol.com >Subject: (fax) FA: eBay > >Hello, >           Recently listed for auction on eBay the following Fax and >related artist's classics: > >FAX >- ------- >PKPWPS 1 - 1 Year Ambient >PKPWPS 2 - 1 Year Dance > >PK 08/121 - Exploring the Psychedelic Landscape > >PW 37 - Outland 3 >PW 24 - Psychonavigation 2 >PW 40 - Psychonavigation 4 > >FAX RELATED >- -------------------- >Dandy Jack...AND THE PLASTIC WOMAN - RI 042 >Atom Heart - SHELLGLOVE >Tetsu Inoue - World Receiver >Tetsu Inoue - OBJECT and ORGANIC CODE >DER Spyra - EXCERPTS 1 > >DEEP SPACE NETWORK - BIG ROOMS [instinct] SEALED! > >Check them out here: > >http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZorganicnavel >or >http://tinyurl.com/43hq6 > >Thank you for your concideration, > >Mark [organicnavel] > >------------------------------ > >Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 13:16:50 -0800 (PST) >From: John Whitney >Subject: (fax) WHAT'S NEXT FOR FAX? > >Anybody know what's coming out when... ? Just >curious, I need me some more ambient crack! > >John W. > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. >http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > >------------------------------ > >Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:40:59 -0600 (CST) >From: Trevor Cordes >Subject: Re: (fax) planetarium II > >On 14 Jan, micah stupak wrote: > > yes or no? tell us why. > >Pl2 is a toss-up... the neat thing is you can just make out hints of >style and influences that are more apparent in Indigo. I gave it a >"fairly higher than average" rating, which is pretty good. It's >certainly no Indigo, though, and I may lower my rating to "barely above >average" if I keep listening to it. > >Like all FAX, it's at least worth a listen! > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 23:54:36 -0500 >From: Organicnavel@aol.com >Subject: (fax) FA: ebay > >Hello, > Recently listed for auction on ebay the following Fax >classics: > >PW 44 Fires of Ork 2 - Namlook + Jenssen >PW 15 Create - Namlook + Uzzell-Edwards >PW 18 New Consciousness 2 - Namlook + Uzzell-Edwards >PW 14 Alien Community 2 - Namlook + Sharp >PW 42 Planetarium 2 - Namlook + New Composers >PS 08/63 Solitaire - David Moufang > >AW003 Air 2 - Pete Namlook > >Plus many other titles from Fax related artists: > >Jonah Sharp + David Moufang [Reagenz], Peter Benisch [FPU], Victor Sol, >Atom Heart, David Moufang [Conjoint], Geir Jenssen [Biosphere], DER Spyra >and Tetsu Inoue. > >Check them out here: > >http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZorganicnavel > >or > >http://tinyurl.com/43hq6 > > >Thanks for taking a peek, > >Mark [organicnavel] > >------------------------------ > >End of faxlist-digest V2005 #5 >****************************** > >--- >+ To post: ; to mail a person: >+ To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to >+ Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 06:23:22 -0800 (PST) From: John Whitney Subject: Re: (fax) RE: WHAT'S NEXT FOR FAX? - --- Martin Jones wrote: > You're not the only one John...seems to be all quiet > on the news > front...those in the know aren't saying...I think > there should be some new > stuff in the pipeline...someone must know something > more solid than that > though! :-/ hmmm... my theory: pete busted ass all those years, and now is in semi-retirement and only releases stuff when he feels well and ready. you knew he couldn't keep up that kind of output forever, especially considering the advent of mp3s. ahh well. i listened to pp nmlk the other day and i decided, for me, it deserves repeated listens, fwiw. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 06:58:35 -0800 From: Christian von Ompteda Subject: Re: (fax) RE: WHAT'S NEXT FOR FAX? I'd say this makes sense, however it doesn't account for the substantial drop in sublabel output after the last (welcomed) burst of PS08 releases - let the man take some well deserved time off, but maybe at least throw a couple of sublabel releases out there to placate us! ;) One more thought - the style of music that Namlook has been releasing lately (or maybe it's just me) has been more about loop, repetition and modification/modulation than really crafting an evolving storyline (pp nmlk, urban meditation, arguably sultan3), which to me also suggests that he's not in the mood to craft an opus based on design, but more splice together or replicate a variation on a basic theme. A sign of fatigue? Or maybe just a sign of more Ableton Live than Cubase... Quoting John Whitney : > hmmm... my theory: pete busted ass all those years, > and now is in semi-retirement and only releases stuff > when he feels well and ready. you knew he couldn't > keep up that kind of output forever, especially > considering the advent of mp3s. ahh well. i listened > to pp nmlk the other day and i decided, for me, it > deserves repeated listens, fwiw. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 17:02:30 +0100 From: Michael Beckers Subject: Re: (fax) RE: WHAT'S NEXT FOR FAX? True! Fax releases deserve repeated listens. Now I have enough time to listen to all that old releases and most of them are getting better the more often I listen to them. I did not like all that "Outland" releases very much but I decided to listen to them again while reading and now I simply love them... ;-) Did anyone else make theat experience that some FAX releases seam to grow somehow? Cheers Michael > Quoting John Whitney : > >> hmmm... my theory: pete busted ass all those years, >> and now is in semi-retirement and only releases stuff >> when he feels well and ready. you knew he couldn't >> keep up that kind of output forever, especially >> considering the advent of mp3s. ahh well. i listened >> to pp nmlk the other day and i decided, for me, it >> deserves repeated listens, fwiw. >> >> >> > > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 13:15:18 -0500 From: Dan Macpherson Subject: (fax) FAX: Mind Tranceference Control where do these quotations come from: - -otherwise you could rip a hole in the space-time continuum and release negative matter. - -it has to be used very sparingly and with great precision. - -isn't that very dangerous? - -thats why they sent me. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 15:57:06 -0500 From: MuzikJunky Subject: Re: (fax) RE: WHAT'S NEXT FOR FAX? > Does anyone else agree that some FAX releases > seem to grow somehow? Yes, definitely! "Bedroom" (*drools*) and the "Aerial Service Area" and "Otras" series (*double drool*)! It's really depressing when you hear some of Pemberton's later work, such as the tracks he contributed to the "Globe Trekker" soundtrack and realize that any supposed genius of his was only a one-album fluke. Peace. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 23:46:36 -0500 From: Jason Subject: (fax) fa : daisy world tour
A few discs up, an HMC disc and some Kim Cascone anechoic disc - most notably a
copy of the first disc on Japan's Daisyworld - Daisy World Tour CD w/ Inoue, Atom Heart, etc.

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZriouxs

Thanks for looking,

Jason

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Outnow:

Koda - Movements CD (INFX 008) "Stars of the Lid multi-layered drone for the backdrop of winter"

Andrew Liles - New York Doll 2CD (INFX 013)
"Two continents, a dozen hidden meanings, the input of a hundred people and a thousand hours
compiled tape - beautifully compressed onto two discs."

Beequeen - Music for the Head Ballet CD (INFX 009)

Outsoon:

Zimiamvian Night - s/t CD (INFX 007)
Cavernous drones recalling Zoviet France and distant scenes created nearing
the likes of Mirror. Limited edition of 50 numbered copies.

Ultra Milkmaids & Aidan Baker - At home with... CD (INFX 010)
 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 22:03:06 +1100 From: andre ruello Subject: (fax) next for fax next for fax. dark side of the moog X + Psychonavigation 2 reissue on Ambient World + sansserifgrafik andre.ruello - junior vice president http://www.sansserifgrafik.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 05:25:28 -0600 (CST) From: Trevor Cordes Subject: Re: (fax) FAX: Mind Tranceference Control On 29 Jan, Dan Macpherson wrote: > where do these quotations come from: > > -otherwise you could rip a hole in the space-time continuum and release > negative > matter. Good question! Google doesn't know the answer to this one! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 05:26:42 -0600 (CST) From: Trevor Cordes Subject: Re: (fax) next for fax On 30 Jan, andre ruello wrote: > next for fax. > > dark side of the moog X Oooohhhh.... if it's anything near as good as IX then I am getting excited! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 21:38:03 -0500 From: Jason Subject: Re: (fax) next for fax > next for fax. > > dark side of the moog X > > + Psychonavigation 2 reissue on Ambient World A strange choice for a reissue. Doesn't everybody have 2 copies of this? C'mon already, where is Datacide II? Jason - -- Infraction Records infractionrecords.com Outnow: Koda - Movements CD (INFX 008) "Stars of the Lid multi-layered drone for the backdrop of winter" Andrew Liles - New York Doll 2CD (INFX 013) "Two continents, a dozen hidden meanings, the input of a hundred people and a thousand hours compiled tape - beautifully compressed onto two discs." Beequeen - Music for the Head Ballet CD (INFX 009) Outsoon: Zimiamvian Night - s/t CD (INFX 007) Cavernous drones recalling Zoviet France and distant scenes created nearing the likes of Mirror. Limited edition of 50 numbered copies. Ultra Milkmaids & Aidan Baker - At home with... CD (INFX 010) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 20:04:12 -0800 From: "Greg Hill" Subject: Re: (fax) next for fax I might be one of the few on the list but I didn't like DSOTM IX at all...now if it is like DSOTM V or VII now we are talking! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor Cordes" To: "Fax List" Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 3:26 AM Subject: Re: (fax) next for fax > On 30 Jan, andre ruello wrote: > > next for fax. > > > > dark side of the moog X > > Oooohhhh.... if it's anything near as good as IX then I am getting > excited! > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 22:09:11 -0700 From: "Graham Banting" Subject: Re: (fax) next for fax Blasphemy! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Hill" To: "Trevor Cordes" Cc: Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 9:04 PM Subject: Re: (fax) next for fax >I might be one of the few on the list but I didn't like DSOTM IX at > all... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 01:20:05 -0500 From: Alan Lucas Subject: Re: (fax) next for fax Seriously. IX is in my top five Fax of all time, easy. I just hope they can take it even further with X, cause recent Fax stuff hasn't really been doing as much for me lately. Not that I've heard *all* of the new stuff. Just haven't been as interested. How about a Jet Chamber VI? On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 22:09:11 -0700, Graham Banting wrote: > > Blasphemy! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Greg Hill" > To: "Trevor Cordes" > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 9:04 PM > Subject: Re: (fax) next for fax > > > >I might be one of the few on the list but I didn't like DSOTM IX at > > all... > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 10:43:48 +0000 From: Paul Milligan Subject: Re: (fax) next for fax on 31/01/2005 4:04 am, Greg Hill at cameron69@comcast.net wrote: > I might be one of the few on the list but I didn't like DSOTM IX at > all...now if it is like DSOTM V or VII now we are talking! Wow, hard to contemplate how one could arrive at this view but, perfectly entitled to state it of course. (Incidentally VI better than the two that bookend it imo.) I for one will be interested to see if there is an element of PK re-interpreting basic tracks laid down by KS which appear elsewhere on KS's solo stuff. Thinking of what happened with DSOTM IX and Contemporary Works not that I have a problem with it, treatments were sufficiently different. KS has a new one in the can but release has been delayed because they want to reissue some of his earlier ones first (on new label) with bonus trax. Apparently 'X' has one track extended by 15 mins and another new one at c25 mins... wow, can't wait. On the Psychnavigation 2 reissue can only guess that this has something to do with Laswell fan base picking up sufficient copies to justify pressing? It can't have anything to do with demand amongst Faxhead hardcore, surely? Paul ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 13:31:41 +0100 From: "Martin Jones" Subject: Re: (fax) RE: WHAT'S NEXT FOR FAX? >hmmm... my theory: pete busted ass all those years, >and now is in semi-retirement and only releases stuff >when he feels well and ready. you knew he couldn't >keep up that kind of output forever, especially >considering the advent of mp3s. ahh well. i listened >to pp nmlk the other day and i decided, for me, it >deserves repeated listens, fwiw. > Not a bad theory at all, but it seems strange that certain releases have been mooted (Moog 10, VV 5) and then nothing more has been heard... :-( Oh well, back to the "back catalogue"...and it's not a bad one....yeah, pp nmlk does improve the more you hear it, but it's not at the top of my playlist at the mo, that's Escape disc 2, Waiting For Snow and Shades of Orion...oh and Datacide II...and....and... :-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 17:39:50 +0100 From: Alexander S.Kunz Subject: Re: (fax) next for fax Hello Andre Ruello & everyone else 30-Jan-2005 12:03, you [AR] wrote: AR> dark side of the moog X Will it be more that the Schultze recycling of #9? I doubt it... Call me a heretic - I find the chord structures, melody riffs and solos from KS are boring after a while. Not only in the "Moog" series, I mean. In general. Maybe its "take it or leave it (and hate it)", I don't know. But then again, I surely have heard only very "few" KS discs regarding the man's output ... but alas, it seems some people still don't have enough of it. :-) All IMHO of course, and don't get me wrong, some of the Moog series have their moments (#5 is surely my favorite), but it doesn't justify yet *another* release... - -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Allen's Distinction: The lion and the calf shall lie down together, but the calf won't get much sleep. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 17:52:37 +0100 From: Alexander S.Kunz Subject: Re: (fax) next for fax Hello Alan Lucas & everyone else 31-Jan-2005 07:20, you wrote: > How about a Jet Chamber VI? As much as I like the Jet Chambers (and isn't JC1 *such* a classic? never ceases to amaze me, could play it every day), another one would definitely be too much. - -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: "I Miss Green" by Pete Namlook & Atom Heart from the 2000 album 'Jet Chamber V' (oh yes!!! :-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:28:49 -0500 From: "joey@etherworld.com" Subject: (fax) next for fax/cover art Just saw the cover art for Psychonavigation II to be re-issued on AW and I'm sorry to say but I really=20 do NOT like the newer look for Fax releases=2E Yes, this happened a few ye= ars ago but I've been silent=20 for too long!=20 Please know this in no way means that I'm trying to publically disrespect the artist, whom i think=20 may be Andre (if I'm not mistaken)=2E I'm not questioning his talents or personal style and tastes, just=20 the covers=2E This leads me to a question: Are these covers based on art direction from Pete or are=20 they created without his input? Perhaps it's just a case of personal taste but the newer looking covers with the amoeba-like space=20 backdrops or the colorful yet mechanical-looking textures really turn me off to buying these newer=20 releases=2E Yes, I know, it's the music I should be worried about but the older FAX releases inspire me=20 in many ways=2E They were unique in the way FAX could only accomplish and = I miss that=2E I miss the older covers circa '94-'95=2E Can FAX do a "tribute" cover on their next release so=20 FAXHEADS that enjoy those covers can stop whining? ;-) Regards, Joe Original Message: - ----------------- From: Jason riouxs@aol=2Ecom Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 21:38:03 -0500 To: andre@sansserifgrafik=2Ecom, faxlist@2350=2Eorg Subject: Re: (fax) next for fax > next for fax=2E > > dark side of the moog X > > + Psychonavigation 2 reissue on Ambient World A strange choice for a reissue=2E Doesn't everybody have 2 copies of=20 this? C'mon already, where is Datacide II? Jason - --=20 Infraction Records infractionrecords=2Ecom Outnow: Koda - Movements CD (INFX 008) "Stars of the Lid multi-layered drone for the backdrop of winter" Andrew Liles - New York Doll 2CD (INFX 013) "Two continents, a dozen hidden meanings, the input of a hundred people and a thousand hours compiled tape - beautifully compressed onto two discs=2E" Beequeen - Music for the Head Ballet CD (INFX 009) Outsoon: Zimiamvian Night - s/t CD (INFX 007) Cavernous drones recalling Zoviet France and distant scenes created nearin= g the likes of Mirror=2E Limited edition of 50 numbered copies=2E Ultra Milkmaids & Aidan Baker - At home with=2E=2E=2E CD (INFX 010) - --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www=2Ehyperreal=2Eorg/fax www=2E2350=2Eorg - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web=2Ecom/ =2E ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 17:16:41 +0000 From: Paul Milligan Subject: Re: (fax) next for fax on 31/01/2005 4:39 pm, Alexander S.Kunz at lx@neurowerx.de wrote: > I find the chord structures, melody riffs and solos from KS are boring > after a while. Not only in the "Moog" series, I mean. In general. > > But then again, I surely have heard only very "few" KS discs regarding > the man's output ... Feel obliged to jump to Klaus's defence, yeah I know I do it periodically but, he has become something of a soft target on the list. For the record, yes, I accept he can 'noodle-on' a bit and there is clear evidence of repetition but, I have been spinning all 5 of his Contemporary Works 2 collection a lot lately and I have to say I am still getting off on some of the subtle nuance and detail. For a lot of Schulze fans I think it's about getting into the Schulzendorf groove' and, once you're locked-in, those 30 minute tracks can pass by in seemingly half that time. The Moog series is not a good benchmark to judge, despite the fact there's some great stuff in there. Anyway, here is my punchline:- KS now has a legacy of recorded music stretching back over 35 years. There are **undoubtably** significant high points in **every** decade that his music has spanned. I know of no other electronic/synth/ambient artist for whom a comparable claim could even begin to be made. I rest my case. Paul ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:49:34 -0600 (CST) From: Trevor Cordes Subject: Re: (fax) next for fax On 31 Jan, Alexander S.Kunz wrote: > > Will it be more that the Schultze recycling of #9? I doubt it... Ya, but what PK put around 9 is amazing. Every track -- simply amazing. It grows it fades it dazzles! 9 instantly blew me away and still is near (or is actually?) my #1 all time fax fave. > Call me a heretic - I find the chord structures, melody riffs and solos > from KS are boring after a while. Not only in the "Moog" series, I mean. In > general. Maybe its "take it or leave it (and hate it)", I don't know. I'll agree with you a bit there. I've been picking up some KS stuff to see what I've been missing, and so far I have the Essential 72-93 and X CD's and so far I'm not too impressed. X disc 1 is nice, but nothing stellar. I rate it "average", and with the amount of music I have (and go through!) I can't waste too much time on "average". I'm trying to get the top 3 from an old KS (or maybe IDM?) mailing list post that had all the members rate their top picks. X was #3 or something? If that's near the best of his output then I certainly can live without it. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 13:06:42 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: (fax) next for fax In a message dated 1/31/05 11:32:29 AM Central Standard Time, paul.milligan@georgiadesign.com writes: > For a lot of Schulze fans I think it's about getting into the Schulzendorf > groove' and, once you're locked-in, those 30 minute tracks can pass by in > seemingly half that time. EXACTLY ! but i will say that i am a much bigger fan of 70's output...and even so, i am not that big of a fan of "X" but if you want to have your head and soul rearranged may i suggest: Irrlicht Cyborg Blackdance Picture Music (i'm a big fan of this one) Timewind Moondawn Body Love 1 Body Love 2 Mirage these are his early works and are indeed my very favorites.. RL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 13:08:14 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: (fax) speaking of Shulze... ...does anyone know where i can find Klaus Schulze "Live" (1980) on cd ? any stores or personal sellers? RL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 13:06:46 -0500 From: micah stupak Subject: Re: (fax) next for fax Quoting Paul Milligan : > KS now has a legacy of recorded music stretching back over 35 years. There > are **undoubtably** significant high points in **every** decade that his > music has spanned. I know of no other electronic/synth/ambient artist for > whom a comparable claim could even begin to be made. this is an amazing achievement, especially in light of his being active at the very beginning. it is doubtful that many others will come close to equalling this, and mr namlook is no doubt most likely (though asmus tietchens and peter christopherson are ahead of him). however - and here is my punchline - this should not exempt his work, current or past, from criticism. (and on from the devil's advocate angle, if one is prolific enough, they will certainly have a couple high points per decade.) micah stupak benthic recordings : soundings from unexplored places micah@benthic.cc .. www.benthic.cc - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 10:13:22 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Lachman Subject: Fwd: (fax) next for fax/cover art Gosh, I love the new artwork, especially the "amoeba-like space backdrops." To each his own... - --- "joey@etherworld.com" wrote: > From: "joey@etherworld.com" > To: faxlist@2350.org > Subject: (fax) next for fax/cover art > Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:28:49 -0500 > > Just saw the cover art for Psychonavigation II to be > re-issued on AW and > I'm sorry to say but I really > do NOT like the newer look for Fax releases. Yes, > this happened a few years > ago but I've been silent > for too long! > > Please know this in no way means that I'm trying to > publically disrespect > the artist, whom i think > may be Andre (if I'm not mistaken). I'm not > questioning his talents or > personal style and tastes, just > the covers. This leads me to a question: Are these > covers based on art > direction from Pete or are > they created without his input? > > Perhaps it's just a case of personal taste but the > newer looking covers > with the amoeba-like space > backdrops or the colorful yet mechanical-looking > textures really turn me > off to buying these newer > releases. Yes, I know, it's the music I should be > worried about but the > older FAX releases inspire me > in many ways. They were unique in the way FAX could > only accomplish and I > miss that. > > I miss the older covers circa '94-'95. Can FAX do a > "tribute" cover on > their next release so > FAXHEADS that enjoy those covers can stop whining? > ;-) > > Regards, > > Joe > > --- > + To post: ; to mail a person: > > + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to > > + Online info at: www.hyperreal.org/fax > www.2350.org > ===== Mark Lachman __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 13:19:52 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: (fax) next for fax/cover art In a message dated 1/31/05 12:14:02 PM Central Standard Time, marklachman@yahoo.com writes: > Gosh, I love the new artwork, especially the > "amoeba-like space backdrops." To each his own... > me too...i like most of the new artwork....a lot of the old artwork was kind of hokey... RL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:41:14 -0600 (CST) From: Trevor Cordes Subject: Re: (fax) next for fax/cover art On 31 Jan, joey@etherworld.com wrote: > Just saw the cover art for Psychonavigation II to be re-issued on AW and > I'm sorry to say but I really > do NOT like the newer look for Fax releases. Yes, this happened a few years I think the new covers are pretty good. The real standout for me is FoO2. They are all pleasant to look at and very consistent, just like the old ones with the circle-in-circle. I suppose some may be turned off by the computerized/mechanical motif but then again FAX music is very much computerized/mechanical, so it fits, no? A part of me does miss the old circle covers, and I think PK should make sure there is an element of consistency across the releases and through the years. > the covers. This leads me to a question: Are these covers based on art > direction from Pete or are > they created without his input? I'm sure PK nods his approval. Hey, at least they're still using the same old AW font :-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:01:46 -0800 (PST) From: John Whitney Subject: Re: (fax) next for fax/cover art -- schulze re-issue > marklachman@yahoo.com writes: > > Gosh, I love the new artwork - --- RLynn9@aol.com wrote: > me too...i like most of the new artwork....a lot of > the old artwork was kind > of hokey... I'm going to have to partially agree... I like the new artwork a lot, though i would just say *some* of the old stuff was 'kind of hokey' :-) as far as schulze goes, i go hot and cold with him -- sometimes i love it, other times i am cynical and it falls into the 'hey, anyone could do that' category (though i completely realize that this isn't the case). i even sold mirage back and now feel foolish for doing so (as it's been hard to find), i actually want to go buy it again... lucky for me they're RE-ISSUING it and it'll be available TOMORROW. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00070HGSM/qid=1107197871/sr=8-2/ref=pd_bbs_2/002-4082989-8057643?v=glance&s=music&n=507846 john w. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 20:29:07 +0100 From: Alexander S.Kunz Subject: Re: (fax) next for fax Hello Micah Stupak & everyone else 31-Jan-2005 19:06, you wrote: > this is an amazing achievement, especially in light of his being active > at the very beginning Wasn't he maybe (just) "in the right place and the right time", or something like that? I mean... the time when KS began was the spring of electronic music, was it? - -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) The release of atom power has changed everything except our way of thinking...the solution to this problem lies in the heart of mankind. If only I had known, I should have become a watchmaker. -- Albert Einstein ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 09:52:14 +0000 From: Paul Milligan Subject: (fax) Schulze / Fax artwork on 31/01/2005 7:29 pm, Alexander S.Kunz at lx@neurowerx.de wrote: > Wasn't he maybe (just) "in the right place and the right time", or > something like that? I mean... the time when KS began was the spring of > electronic music, was it? Yes... but only because he & a small handful of significant others (chiefly from your neck of the woods) INSTIGATED that Spring. He didn't jump on their gravy train...he stoked it up before it even left the station! Micah (I think) made the comment that anyone as prolific over 35 years will have high points, as well as low. I concur. Evidence = Pete Namlook... ranges from dire to sheer brilliance. I don't have a problem with objective criticism of KS (I am indifferent to a good 25% of his output) and happen to know that he *personally* has no problem *whatsoever* with the fact that many bemoan his work... he has always done his own thing and is even less 'commercial' in outlook than PK is (or was). Interesting thing about his work is that you can dip into it just about anywhere along the line and, at that moment in time, by comparison with peers, he's either pushing out the boundaries or at the very least, carving out his own personal niche. Ten good examples (in chronological order, over a 33 year period): Irrlicht Timewind X Transfer Station Blue En=trance Midi Pads Dome Event Dark Side Of The Moog Are You Sequenced Contemporary Works 2 Complete change of subject; the Fax artwork... I think my view would be that the artwork of the last three years is more consistent, dare I say derivative of the genre but, extremely well executed. However, I do miss the "what the f**k is that?" response I use to have to a lot of the old ones... that sort of added to the mystique of Fax and emphasised its often obscure origins. Know what I mean? (Although some where crap!) Seya Paul ------------------------------ End of faxlist-digest V2005 #6 ****************************** --- + To post: ; to mail a person: + To unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" to + Online info at: www.faxlabel.com www.hyperreal.org/fax www.2350.org